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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
US government has authorised the use of nuclear weapons against Iran
Apr 30 2011, 2:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 2:39 AM EDT
I'm half-expecting one of the lock-happy mods to come over pretty soon. Please don't! This is relevant to an apocalypse scenario, and isn't just some crackpot conspiracy theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4p1kD8CZX8&feature=bf_next&list=WLC1CE3810CD20D401&index=39

This video was posted over a year ago, but i've only just watched it. This guy on Russia Today (a decent news channel) stated that the US military made a claim that "mini nukes are harmless to the surrounding civilian population".
He also said that the senate has approved the used of these tactical nukes in conventional warfare.

I'm not saying that ww3 is going to kick off any time soon, I just want people to be aware that nuclear warfare isn't as distant a possibility as we'd all like to hope. This may reflect in peoples survival plans, for example more of us may want to buy potassium iodide pills to combat radiation, or consider shelter options etc.
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Carnack
Carnack
1. RE: US government has authorised the use of nuclear weapons against Iran
Apr 30 2011, 2:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 2:57 AM EDT
...The data that I'm getting is along the same vein as:

OMG THE ZIONISTS GONNA SUCK OUT OUR BRAINZ SLUUUUUUURP!

The video seems more for pushing the the Iran Is Innocent angle than anything else.

Color me unconvinced.
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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
2. RE: US government has authorised the use of nuclear weapons against Iran
Apr 30 2011, 3:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 3:03 AM EDT
Oh, the guys definately biased against the US, i'm not doubting that.
Btw, don't take the tags seriously lol
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ZombieInformer
ZombieInformer
3. RE: US government has authorised the use of nuclear weapons against Iran
Apr 30 2011, 3:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 3:20 AM EDT
I am not a fan of Russia Today. I think it's always good to get your news from many sources but I can't really take them very seriously.

I'm also pretty sure we wouldn't use nukes, there isn't any reason to use them. The high civilian deaths would send a message that we don't care about middle eastern civilian casualties as long as we get their oil. That would destroy what we've been trying to do for a long time.
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LJ126
LJ126
4. A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 5:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 5:56 AM EDT
"I'm half-expecting one of the lock-happy mods to come over pretty soon."
You know, this certainly is never a good way to start a thread... let's analyze, shall we?

Your opening sentence implies two things. First, it tells us all that you believe the moderation staff incapable of determining when a thread should or shouldn't be shut down and that they look for opportunities to use this privilege. Rest assured, the staff here is quite capable of determining when something should be shut down, and in general, they do an excellent job playing the rather thankless role of volunteer moderator. Your chosen wording isn't going to make you friends with the staff because it blatantly indicates that you think they're doing a poor job.

Second, using your introduction "tips your hand" because you've already acknowledged that there's a possibility that the thread is off-topic and irrelevant, therefore worthy of being locked. In fact, its so likely that you have to address it in the opening sentence of the thread!

Now that these two points have been made, exactly why do we let it keep running, especially considering that you've unknowingly insulted my staff?? I'm considering locking this thread not because of the content, but because of the attitude used in your presentation.
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DonovanRichter
DonovanRichter
5. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 9:33 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 9:33 AM EDT
The U.S. is gonna use nukes and Zionists are gonna slurp out my brain!!!??? =O___O= This is bad, if we enter a nuclear winter, how will any of the farmers or foragers grow or propagate any edible plants? Greenhouses likely wouldn't help so people would really only be living on borrowed time until food stuffs ran out.

Maybe we could live off of mushrooms and earthworms? =*_*= What are some other foods that might persist awhile without much sunlight? =^_^=
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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
6. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 9:33 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 9:35 AM EDT
@ LJ126
Firstly, sorry that I've clearly offended you and that you think I'm insulting the mods, because I'm not.
It is my opinion that some mods are undoubtedly lock-happy. I've seen many threads locked for the tiniest reason. That doesn't mean I think all of the mods are doing a bad job, that I hate them, or that I am ungrateful for them maintaining this site for free.

Secondly, I think I made my stance on the relevancy of the topic quite clear. If I thought it was off-topic, I wouldn't have posted it here. It's just because it's not directly to do with Zombies, but rather "apocalypse" and "survival". I hope you are now acquiescent with my attitude.

@Zombieinformer I live in the UK where our news channels are full of meaningless crap, and Russia Today is one of the very few who report proper international news. Whilst I agree that it's always wise to use many sources, I hope you can understand my tendancy to trust them over, say, the BBC, who would rather have us cooeing over a new litter of kittens than pondering potential wars.
The BBC don't report to us whats happening, but instead spew emotive stories which only effect a tiny number of people. Whether it's trying to get more ratings, or trying to keep us uninformed with a directed opinion, I don't know.
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DonovanRichter
DonovanRichter
7. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 9:46 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 9:46 AM EDT
Oh my gosh, you're from the UK? =^_^= I got the gist from a British boyfriend of mine a few years ago that American news and European news are radically different in focus. Is it true that most American news seems very dirty laundryey and doomy and gloomy compared to what European news covers?

He felt like the two biggest mediums that Europeans judge American culture by are their news channels and hollywood. =^_^=
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trophykiller
trophykiller
8. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 9:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 9:51 AM EDT
"He felt like the two biggest mediums that Europeans judge American culture by are their news channels and hollywood. =^_^="
They judge us from our news? Someone, please snuff fox news... Actually, do that anyway.
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
9. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 11:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 11:35 AM EDT
"@ LJ126
Firstly, sorry that I've clearly offended you and that you think I'm insulting the mods, because I'm not.
It is my opinion that some mods are undoubtedly lock-happy. I've seen many threads locked for the tiniest reason. That doesn't mean I think all of the mods are doing a bad job, that I hate them, or that I am ungrateful for them maintaining this site for free.

Secondly, I think I made my stance on the relevancy of the topic quite clear. If I thought it was off-topic, I wouldn't have posted it here. It's just because it's not directly to do with Zombies, but rather "apocalypse" and "survival". I hope you are now acquiescent with my attitude.
"
Care to post some threads you believe were "locked for the tiniest reason?"

I have posted many threads that could be considered "off topic", and haven't had them locked. I see no problem with the way our mods and admins are doing things.

Anyway, I'm not really concerned about the whole nuke thing. There's nothing I can personally do about it, so I don't see the sense in worrying.
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
10. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 11:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 11:59 AM EDT
"@ LJ126
Firstly, sorry that I've clearly offended you and that you think I'm insulting the mods, because I'm not.
It is my opinion that some mods are undoubtedly lock-happy. I've seen many threads locked for the tiniest reason. That doesn't mean I think all of the mods are doing a bad job, that I hate them, or that I am ungrateful for them maintaining this site for free.

Secondly, I think I made my stance on the relevancy of the topic quite clear. If I thought it was off-topic, I wouldn't have posted it here. It's just because it's not directly to do with Zombies, but rather "apocalypse" and "survival". I hope you are now acquiescent with my attitude.

@Zombieinformer I live in the UK where our news channels are full of meaningless crap, and Russia Today is one of the very few who report proper international news. Whilst I agree that it's always wise to use many sources, I hope you can understand my tendancy to trust them over, say, the BBC, who would rather have us cooeing over a new litter of kittens than pondering potential wars.
The BBC don't report to us whats happening, but instead spew emotive stories which only effect a tiny number of people. Whether it's trying to get more ratings, or trying to keep us uninformed with a directed opinion, I don't know."
yes, they are one of the only real news reporting agencies that actually gets to the real stuff..

zombieinformer can't take them seriously because FOX has hypnotized him.

oh btw our mods and admins are great at what they do. If they lock something then theres a reason.

Now, as for the nukes against Iran... just ROFL.
Damn humans can't get ALONG. If we just got rid of a key difference in all cultures.... we'd all sing kumbaja
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Carnack
Carnack
11. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 1:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 1:28 PM EDT
"zombieinformer can't take them seriously because FOX has hypnotized him."
This is the sort of attitude that causes arguments.

I watched the vid.

Noticed ther content was the big bad US messing with poor little Iran.

Looked up the information on google and got sites mentioning the Zionist threat and all the other conspiracies I giggle at.

I therefor feel safe in disregarding a lot of the videos claims.

Has Fox Hypnotized me into looking into things and finding problems?
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nate121
nate121
12. US government has authorised the use of nuclear weapons against Iran
Apr 30 2011, 1:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 1:42 PM EDT
"They judge us from our news? Someone, please snuff fox news... Actually, do that anyway."
why would you get rid of fox news? it's the only major US news network that isn't left-wing, or err, liberal

also i really don't see the US using nukes against iran, to many things could go wrong so quickly in such a situation

EDIT, mark, the tags aren't appropriate for the subject
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
13. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 2:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 2:32 PM EDT
" He felt like the two biggest mediums that Europeans judge American culture by are their news channels and hollywood. =^_^="
Truth given, on several occasions other guys I've known that visited Europe have been approached by American women asking for them to escort them to their destinations. As our media has done a wonderful job of depicting American women's thoughts on sex as; "No means Yes, Yes means anal, and anal means gang rape."
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Carnack
Carnack
14. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 2:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 2:45 PM EDT
"Truth given, on several occasions other guys I've known that visited Europe have been approached by American women asking for them to escort them to their destinations. As our media has done a wonderful job of depicting American women's thoughts on sex as; "No means Yes, Yes means anal, and anal means gang rape." "
And this makes sense because...
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DonovanRichter
DonovanRichter
15. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 3:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 3:13 PM EDT
"Truth given, on several occasions other guys I've known that visited Europe have been approached by American women asking for them to escort them to their destinations. As our media has done a wonderful job of depicting American women's thoughts on sex as; "No means Yes, Yes means anal, and anal means gang rape." "
=O_o= So that's kinda common, and geared towards Americans, huh?
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LJ126
LJ126
16. RE: A topic about nukes becomes a lesson in literary tact
Apr 30 2011, 4:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 4:05 PM EDT
"@ LJ126
Firstly, sorry that I've clearly offended you and that you think I'm insulting the mods, because I'm not.
It is my opinion that some mods are undoubtedly lock-happy. I've seen many threads locked for the tiniest reason. That doesn't mean I think all of the mods are doing a bad job, that I hate them, or that I am ungrateful for them maintaining this site for free.

Secondly, I think I made my stance on the relevancy of the topic quite clear. If I thought it was off-topic, I wouldn't have posted it here. It's just because it's not directly to do with Zombies, but rather "apocalypse" and "survival". I hope you are now acquiescent with my attitude.
"
I'm not insulted, but you definitely aren't approaching this from the right perspective. You haven't supported your claim that we have "lock happy" staffers with any evidence or examples (only opinion), nor have you named names of offending staffers, and you're going on the defensive after I've pointed out that your attitude on kinda stinks. All in all, not a good start.

Frankly, the only thing that has been acquiesced from my perspective is that you either lack tact entirely, or you had a very bonehead morning. If you felt that our staff is "lock happy," this certainly is not the way to address it. Maybe a PM to our staff as a whole would've been more effective, possibly even a thread about it to see how others felt too.

The irony is that now that I've pointed this out, you're probably going to accuse me of picking on you - and all I've done is simply point out that your attitude stinks. Maybe the correct course of action (on your part) is to analyze how you say things when you post them, and then consider the way that others will read it, and then ensure that they mean the same thing before hitting that greyish-pink "Post" button.
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Ready_For_Z-Day
Ready_For_Z-Day
18. RE: US government has authorised the use of nuclear weapons against Iran
Apr 30 2011, 6:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 6:40 PM EDT
Fill lake Iran with water. Fill it with fish. Make it a government operating vacation spot and make profit. Do you find this valuable?    
DevilNuts
DevilNuts
19. RE: US government has authorised the use of nuclear weapons against Iran
Apr 30 2011, 10:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 10:18 PM EDT
Aren't "mini nukes" from Fallout 3? 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Whybother08
Whybother08
20. RE: US government has authorised the use of nuclear weapons against Iran
Apr 30 2011, 10:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 30 2011, 10:25 PM EDT
"Aren't "mini nukes" from Fallout 3?"
Yeah. And since we have mini-nukes, we also have 30-pound shoulder catapults to launch them, so we can dominate Iran with FREEDOM.
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