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p4p4t0m
p4p4t0m
Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 1:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 1:13 PM EDT
WIth all the talk of weapons and ammo going around the site, i was wondering.

What is the best caliber and type of ammo for Z-Day? You would have to balance out weight, range, power, availability, etc.

Just wondering.
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x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
1. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 1:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 1:27 PM EDT
Asking for our opinion, then laying down rules?

I personally use .22LR rounds. Not too much kick, but they can still f*ck sh*t up. Also, they're small and relatively cheap, and about the most common round ever :)
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p4p4t0m
p4p4t0m
2. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 1:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 1:30 PM EDT
"Asking for our opinion, then laying down rules?

I personally use .22LR rounds. Not too much kick, but they can still f*ck sh*t up. Also, they're small and relatively cheap."
they weren't really rules on this one, just some things to consider when making your choice.
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x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
3. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 1:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 1:33 PM EDT
"they weren't really rules on this one, just some things to consider when making your choice."
Yeah, I was kinda meaning the other one, too.
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p4p4t0m
p4p4t0m
4. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 1:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 1:41 PM EDT
"Yeah, I was kinda meaning the other one, too."
i understood, same goes for both and for the guns one, i din't want people saying those things because they were really not good answers anyway.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
5. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 2:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 2:43 PM EDT
Really this answer comes down to personal circumstances. Even if ..30-06 is the perfect z-poc round, I only have 9mm, .36 and .357.

Now tuck in that some weapons won't feed or eject certain types of rounds correctly... i.e. DevilDogMP has an AR7, which "seem" to have a notorius habit of feeding poorly inexpensive, underpowered .22 rounds. You can see how this question gets had to answer.


For me it's like so: 9mm is Federal Hydrashok 147 +p+ JHP
.357 Remington Golden Saber JHP
.36 ammo I make for my self, plain lead balls
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p4p4t0m
p4p4t0m
6. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 2:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 2:45 PM EDT
"Really this answer comes down to personal circumstances. Even if ..30-06 is the perfect z-poc round, I only have 9mm, .36 and .357.

Now tuck in that some weapons won't feed or eject certain types of rounds correctly... i.e. DevilDogMP has an AR7, which "seem" to have a notorius habit of feeding poorly inexpensive, underpowered .22 rounds. You can see how this question gets had to answer.


For me it's like so: 9mm is Federal Hydrashok 147 +p+ JHP
.357 Remington Golden Saber JHP
.36 ammo I make for my self, plain lead balls"
With that in mind, what do you think the overall best round for zpoc is. Regardless of wether or not you have a gun that uses it.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
7. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 2:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 2:51 PM EDT
"With that in mind, what do you think the overall best round for zpoc is. Regardless of wether or not you have a gun that uses it."
I would say 12 guage... buckshot is probably the best load... for zombies. Other rounds may be more well rounded for a general survival situation.
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p4p4t0m
p4p4t0m
8. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 2:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 2:53 PM EDT
"I would say 12 guage... buckshot is probably the best load... for zombies. Other rounds may be more well rounded for a general survival situation."
that would make sense, you do get a lot of bang for your buck. (ha ha)

The only problem that i see is the weight and size of the shells. You aren't going to be able to carry as many 12 gauge rounds as you would .22 or 5.56.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
9. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 2:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 3:00 PM EDT
"that would make sense, you do get a lot of bang for your buck. (ha ha)

The only problem that i see is the weight and size of the shells. You aren't going to be able to carry as many 12 gauge rounds as you would .22 or 5.56."
No matter how many shells you can carry, you'll never shoot every target you see. Personally, I plan on using stealth and melee to conserve ammo at every possibility. Even if I used .22, I don't believe that I could carry enough rounds for 1/3 the population of my town(roughly 36,00). Planning to survive really only has a little to do with what gun and how much ammo, and more about how you will keep your self out of danger and away from things that need shooting.
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p4p4t0m
p4p4t0m
10. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 3:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 3:06 PM EDT
"No matter how many shells you can carry, you'll never shoot every target you see. Personally, I plan on using stealth and melee to conserve ammo at every possibility. Even if I used .22, I don't believe that I could carry enough rounds for 1/3 the population of my town(roughly 36,00). Planning to survive really only has a little to do with what gun and how much ammo, and more about how you will keep your self out of danger and away from things that need shooting."
I understand that much, but how many more rounds of .22 do you think you could carry then 12 gauge. Also 12 gauge may become a rarity after zpoc because of the general belief in the power of shotguns.
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DLOWTHEMAD
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11. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 3:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 3:12 PM EDT
"I understand that much, but how many more rounds of .22 do you think you could carry then 12 gauge. Also 12 gauge may become a rarity after zpoc because of the general belief in the power of shotguns.
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I'm a coroner man, I don't buy the whole .22 mystique... I see lot's of other rounds bring me business, .22 rarely does. I can carry roughly 1,000 rounds of my 9mm, and I'm sure that number is way lower for 12ga.
My point is this: No one caliber can be counted as best... this thread is a perfect example, you insisted I give a "best" caliber and then immediatly found a reason why it isn't best. You are asking for an opinion, but want it to sound like fact... not gonna work. A caliber that is sure power is heavy and expensive, a caliber that is in-expensive is prabably not lethal enough(opinion again) etc, etc.
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p4p4t0m
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12. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 3:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 3:24 PM EDT
"I'm a coroner man, I don't buy the whole .22 mystique... I see lot's of other rounds bring me business, .22 rarely does. I can carry roughly 1,000 rounds of my 9mm, and I'm sure that number is way lower for 12ga.
My point is this: No one caliber can be counted as best... this thread is a perfect example, you insisted I give a "best" caliber and then immediatly found a reason why it isn't best. You are asking for an opinion, but want it to sound like fact... not gonna work. A caliber that is sure power is heavy and expensive, a caliber that is in-expensive is prabably not lethal enough(opinion again) etc, etc."
sorry about, probably should revise my previous statements.
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SasquatchJim
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13. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 7:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 7:41 PM EDT
I personally think the 12 gauge is the overall "best" round.

In addition to being able to deal with zombies, it's extremely effective one human targets, as well as large game and birds. I wouldn't want to try duck hunting with a .30-06.

For rifles, I'm actually a fan of the old .30-30. It's cheap, low-recoiling, powerful enough to deal with most threats, accurate out to the ranges I feel comfortable shooting at, generally chambered in easy-handling guns, etc.

Finally, for handguns, I'd have to say the .357 Magnum. It's powerful, accurate, easy-to-find, and very versatile (being able to fire the .38.) Also, it can be used for hunting at close range, which is another plus.

But, I don't believe you can put the term "best" on any one caliber. It all depends on the circumstances and the competency of the shooter.
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Zombie_bob
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14. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 7:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 7:52 PM EDT
All I want to add is the best is whet ever you can load and fire, and frangible ammo is good stuff. Do you find this valuable?    
YourBrainOnDrugs
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15. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 9:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 9:24 PM EDT
"...and frangible ammo is good stuff. "
Not so sure I agree. Check out this link (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=57072)

The post is authored by Doctor Gary K Roberts, a well known & highly respected medical expert on the subject of terminal ballistics.
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p4p4t0m
p4p4t0m
16. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 9:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 9:44 PM EDT
"I personally think the 12 gauge is the overall "best" round.

In addition to being able to deal with zombies, it's extremely effective one human targets, as well as large game and birds. I wouldn't want to try duck hunting with a .30-06.

For rifles, I'm actually a fan of the old .30-30. It's cheap, low-recoiling, powerful enough to deal with most threats, accurate out to the ranges I feel comfortable shooting at, generally chambered in easy-handling guns, etc.

Finally, for handguns, I'd have to say the .357 Magnum. It's powerful, accurate, easy-to-find, and very versatile (being able to fire the .38.) Also, it can be used for hunting at close range, which is another plus.

But, I don't believe you can put the term "best" on any one caliber. It all depends on the circumstances and the competency of the shooter."
I agree, best was probably not the "best" word, but i couldn't think of anything else.
My job here is to question your choices and see your reasoning, so take a look at my previous posts about the twelve gauge. Not hating, just clarifying.
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iFont
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17. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 9:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 9:46 PM EDT
If you just used melee weapons you wouldnt have to worry about the best ammo or running out of bullets. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
p4p4t0m
p4p4t0m
18. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 9:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 9:53 PM EDT
"Not so sure I agree. Check out this link (http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=57072)

The post is authored by Doctor Gary K Roberts, a well known & highly respected medical expert on the subject of terminal ballistics."
After reading that, frangible ammunition does take on a different light in my eye. While useful in some situations, it is not as powerful as some say.
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p4p4t0m
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19. RE: Best ammunition for Z-Day
Jun 6 2011, 9:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 6 2011, 9:54 PM EDT
" If you just used melee weapons you wouldnt have to worry about the best ammo or running out of bullets."
True, but some situations require firearms and this question applies to those situations.
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