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oldognewtrix
oldognewtrix
Survival of the Wittiest
Jun 10 2011, 6:34 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2011, 6:34 AM EDT
The problem is you can stock up on supplies all you want; it probably will not do you much good when things get really bad. Anybody who has anything will quickly become a target of the throngs of desperate people who do not. Think about it: When there are groups of looters wandering around after the Apocalypse, do you really want to be the only house on the block that has a generator running? Yeah, you might have a rifle and a keen shooting ability, but you are not going to get all of them, and the ones that climb in over the dead bodies while you are between clips are gonna be downright vicious.
No, stocking up is meant to get you through maybe the first few days so you have a chance to assess the situation without being distracted by hunger. After that, only your wits will see you through the days to come.
A solid knowledge of wilderness survival is key. To survive when the cities and towns are crawling with zombies, you need the ability to just fade away into the wilderness - and live there quite comfortably.
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timberrattler
timberrattler
1. RE: Survival of the Wittiest
Jun 10 2011, 7:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2011, 7:17 AM EDT
Who truly has the ability to "Fade away into the wilderness"? Living in the wilderness doesn't strike me as living comfortably either.

Sure there are people in this world who could accomplish this but could they do this with their family in tow? Or is this more of a "lone wolf" mentality?

Diving into the rough alone with nothing but a pack and a rifle is a romantic notion but its not a sure chance at survival even for someone with all the neccesary skills. Over time, secluded from others, scratching out a living with nobody to watch your back. Depression would be your greatest enemy.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
2. RE: Survival of the Wittiest
Jun 10 2011, 7:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2011, 7:40 AM EDT
"Diving into the rough alone with nothing but a pack and a rifle is a romantic notion but its not a sure chance at survival even for someone with all the neccesary skills. Over time, secluded from others, scratching out a living with nobody to watch your back. Depression would be your greatest enemy. "
I've done exactly that, though with a hell of a lot more than a backpack. It's taken almost a decade to learn 'most' of what I need and hump all the gear up to stay up here. And yes depression is the puta. Each winter is harder on the head than the last one and I'm currently trying to find out why that should be so.

By doing what I'm 'trying' to do in a foreign country there is already a huge dose of isolation. Ex-pats and immigrants are 60 something percent more likely to suffer mental problems according to a 30 year study by Dutch researchers. That's before you try not seeing another living soul for weeks at a time.

I'm also trying to understand the mindset of people from much poorer cultures and earlier times. The time before consumerism in all it's varieties because when you take away the 'working towards the next new thing' motivation you have a bloody big hole in what you thought was a life. I could go on if you really want a buzzkill of epic proportions ; )

My recommendation for anyone thinking of taking this path is to try it. A month to six weeks without seeing or talking to anyone will show you just what you are in for.
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oldognewtrix
oldognewtrix
3. RE: Survival of the Wittiest
Jun 11 2011, 12:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2011, 12:11 PM EDT
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Diving into the rough alone with nothing but a pack and a rifle is a romantic notion "
True - if your not living by the boyscout motto. That's kind of a separate issue, though. All I am trying to say is one's survival may not depend on how much stuff you've accumulated when TSHTF, so much as by the knowledge and preparation you have accumulated. Unless, of course, you have been infected. Then I guess it doesn't matter.
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oldognewtrix
oldognewtrix
4. RE: Survival of the Wittiest
Jun 11 2011, 12:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2011, 12:22 PM EDT
"My recommendation for anyone thinking of taking this path is to try it. A month to six weeks without seeing or talking to anyone will show you just what you are in for.
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I would imagine a group would be better for an end-of-the-world scenario- more brains available to figure out problems. However, the knowledge you are accumulating now by doing what you are doing is exactly what I am talking about here. That kind of experience will be invaluable in the aftermath of some kind of cataclysmic event.
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scoutshonor
5. RE: Survival of the Wittiest
Aug 3 2011, 10:30 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2011, 10:30 AM EDT
Noisy generators, the smell of cooking food, and visibility of a person well armed, fed, and clothed will always attract thieves. Discretion is a must for bugging in. For urban settings, bugging in would require window coverings that do not allow light to escape. Vandalizing the front door to make it look like the place has been ransacked. Cook food, dispose of trash, and use your "outhouse" location at times of day when people can't see, hear, or smell you. Suburban, farm, and wilderness bugging in are less populated and don't have as many challenges. Consider the advantages of bugging in with a group on a farm setting where organization of leadership, common goals, and rotation of defense would likely lead to a more secure and successful venture. Do you find this valuable?    
Filadog
Filadog
6. RE: Survival of the Wittiest
Aug 3 2011, 7:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2011, 7:26 PM EDT
"True - if your not living by the boyscout motto. That's kind of a separate issue, though. All I am trying to say is one's survival may not depend on how much stuff you've accumulated when TSHTF, so much as by the knowledge and preparation you have accumulated. Unless, of course, you have been infected. Then I guess it doesn't matter. "
The "wittiest" will be those that have the foresight to stock up NOW befor they need it and not be a dim wit that somehow is expecting to survive by just his wits.

Do you think you can survive in the wildness NOW with what you know and have? Be realistic as what your experance is and what you can do.

Why do you automatical seem to think just because a person has stocked up on supp;ies they won't have the common sense to take precautions so that others won't get them or even be aware of them
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TurnAndBurn
TurnAndBurn
7. RE: Survival of the Wittiest
Aug 3 2011, 9:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2011, 9:20 PM EDT
For some people caching supplies throughout various areas is popular and even if one is compromised they can just go check another one. Food probably doesn't get socked away in this manner as much as other things namely guns, ammunition, medical supplies, camping gear and possibly even fuel. Do you find this valuable?