"The first question should be,,top 10 what? Combat weapons, hunting, comp shooting? What might be number 1, in one area, might not even get on the page in another. 2nd, why is model A better than B? What hard data supports it. To just say,,the AK or the mosseburg is #1 is pointless. The Ak is a lousy target rifle, and the 870R shotgun is useless for sporting clays."

"I wanted to say a remington 870, but then he says "is useless for sporting clays"... "

"mmm... i wouldn't go assuming that just yet. Zombies, as far as any of us know, aren't in existance yet so we dont' know how effective they could be. Even if they are the traditional undead and only headshot/decapitation can kill them, i'd rather have an explosive rip it to ribbions and make it immobile then just mark off all explosives as useless."

"That's because the AK accuracy situation has evolved in the same way that the AR platform has evolved from it's reliability stigma.

Some AK clones are clearly better than others, and to point out examples, a WASR-10 will never be as accurate as a SGL. Red Jacket has gloated about producing a "supremely accurate" AK clone, but I have yet to see anything come from the claim. Personally, I'd like to get one of the Golani Galil-clones. Hmm... might be time for an early Christmas present."

"Agreed with all of the above.

Unfortunately, I can't speak about the VEPR models, but I have heard great things about them when speaking of top of the line clones. I just hate it when people revert to the obsolete "AK's suck for accuracy, and AR's suck for reliability" arguement.

I found a deal on J&G Sales on a Golani with one mag for $499, and each additional mag is half normal cost if bought with the rifle. Man... my debit card is starting to burn.

EDIT:
Speaking of Alex Robinson, have you ever read this about the XCR? Pretty funny.
http://xcrforum.com/index.php/topic,9168.0.html"