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timberrattler
timberrattler
Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 4:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 4:46 PM EDT
Whats the best way to win a fight? Fight dirty.

So why would we look at hunting for game any differently? When SHTF and the local game warden is taking care of business elsewhere there will be no rules. NONE.

I don't know about anyone else but thats when poaching techniques and common sense reasoning will take over for me.

Any and all wildlife regulations will be thrown out the door.

Think of all the possibilities. Its illegal to trap small game like quails, rabbits, squirrels. Not when SHTF. Its illegal to take game like deer and turkey at night. Not when SHTF. Its illegal to bait many different kinds of game animals now. Not when SHTF.

The Native Americans didn't have game limits or regulations prohibiting them from anything. I'd also take a page or two from their methods of hunting, trapping and fishing.

What are some hunting regulations you'd stomp all over to survive?

Thanks for lighting a fire under me humanroach. Expect more threads like this in the future.
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C-Man121
C-Man121
1. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 4:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 4:51 PM EDT
I'd stomp over all hunting regulations, the only reason they're there is to prevent over-hunting/fishing/whatever, and to help protect certain species. When SHTF, the population of the Earth is gonna drop a hell of a lot, and to be honest, if it's a choice between illegal hunting or death, I'm gonna pick illegal hunting. But I don't actually know how to hunt anyway, so it dosn't really matter in my case. Do you find this valuable?    
theman838
theman838
2. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 4:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 4:54 PM EDT
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What are some hunting regulations you'd stomp all over to survive?
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I'd use shotguns loaded with buckshot attached to tripwires in deer trails. For safety it would be marked with bright colors.
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Sharkai
Sharkai
3. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 5:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 5:12 PM EDT
You should keep in mind what you're hunting to stop the animal becoming rare. Hunting at night sounds like it would be difficult to find the animal once you've killed it.

I will place traps all around my local area, I know one place not to far away with thousands of rabbits so I will place a few traps there. The one animal I will still try not kill is the red squirrel as it is too rare and nearly extinct as it is.
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Carnack
Carnack
4. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 5:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 5:17 PM EDT
Depends on what the animal is. Overhunting impacts me so I'd try to balance things out. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
5. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 5:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 5:28 PM EDT
"You should keep in mind what you're hunting to stop the animal becoming rare. Hunting at night sounds like it would be difficult to find the animal once you've killed it.

I will place traps all around my local area, I know one place not to far away with thousands of rabbits so I will place a few traps there. The one animal I will still try not kill is the red squirrel as it is too rare and nearly extinct as it is."
Damn grey squirrels eh?
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
6. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 5:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 5:31 PM EDT
"What are some hunting regulations you'd stomp all over to survive?

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Unattended goats, lamb, horses, sheep, cows, chickens, dogs, cats that mossy on over to around my area are subject to becoming "reconditioned" as I see fit.
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ItsMrManCub
ItsMrManCub
7. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 5:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 5:59 PM EDT
Gen1 NV scope mounted on a .22 mag...that is too easy

Far behind me are the days of spotlighting!
If it swims, slithers, walks, or flies it dies.
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
8. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 6:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 6:10 PM EDT
"Gen1 NV scope mounted on a .22 mag...that is too easy

Far behind me are the days of spotlighting!
If it swims, slithers, walks, or flies it dies."
So no flashlights what-so-ever?
Hopefully no foxes, or coyotes walk off with your kill then. :D
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Reaper37
Reaper37
9. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 6:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 6:17 PM EDT
Three words, Full Automatic Firearms, :)..... Obviously only when coming to large game, grizzly if needed, buffalo, etc. One thing that would suck come post SHTF, people would begin hunting way too much, many species would be brought to or near extinction. The reason we have hunting only once a year is so the numbers can rebuild, but as you pointed out, those laws will have no meaning anymore, and so much wildlife would be killed off.

I almost think enforcing hunting rules and regs come post SHTF would be kind of mandatory to ensure the long haul survival of our species. If not across the country, at least within a smaller area that you and your group might control...
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Filadog
Filadog
10. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 6:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 6:30 PM EDT
We used to eat jmostly wild game and guess some of it was taken outside of the law, but always on our property

A scoped .22 is VERY effective on waterfowl such as geese, if you shoot it under a running tractor can often kill a few befor others get smart.I have shot many geese and 2 deer [and of course ground hogs] while driving a tractor and used to get close enough walking beside a horse to shoot geese too.
Hunting waterfowl over Bait or using live decoys is very effective and thats why you can't do it...I have gotten fined for both befor. I knew an old timer that used to tell stories about his trained Live Decoys that were like dogs to him
Fence or Pen traps are very effective on waterfowl I have read...[ OK I used to trap quail with one as a kid]. I've used to trap owls and hawks using a no. 1 muskrat trap on the top of pole
No plug in your shotgun [got busted twice for this]

I knew a guy once that used to snare Deer, I always wanted to try it but never did. he would bait them and then set a snare when they got used to eating the bait
Driving the roads at night and spot lighting deer, never did it but is effective
Song birds while not much meat are tasty

Fish traps and nets could be effective....DNR found a poachers net right out in front of my house while back with 100s of big rock fish in it. Think third one they found this year and are worked up
Bank and trot lines could be used too
As a kid I used to shoot carp with a rifle, probaly illegal but for sure fun, same with M80s in bottles set off in the water
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OutlawJames
OutlawJames
11. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 6:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 6:42 PM EDT
"What are some hunting regulations you'd stomp all over to survive?

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Well obviously "Seasons" would go out the door.

Shooting game from a road or vehicle

Bag limits in some cases.( though I would only take enough to survive), you dwindle a population to far and you can lose it.

Caliber and ammo regulations in some cases.
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timberrattler
timberrattler
12. RE: Illegal methods of hunting.
Jun 21 2011, 9:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2011, 9:48 PM EDT
@Filadog, I gotta say you got some outlaw in you man. Awesome list of hunting methods. They might not be "sportsmen" like but they would definately get the job done.

I remember my Great-Grandfather talking about using call ducks when hunting waterfowl. They were basically miniture mallards that they strung up and put out on the water. They called the wild ducks in and were probably what inspired using wooden decoys.

Taking fowl like geese or turkeys with rifles is something a guy just doesn't think about because its against the law now. While turkey hunting with a shotgun is a challenge because you have to call them in close hunting them with a rifle would definately make things easier.

Thanks again for the input.
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