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ValentineDay
islands?
Jun 29 2011, 1:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 1:50 PM EDT
Now i have a boat full of a gas and i know about this islands in the middle of and ocean its not very big at least 5 to 6 miles long and no one else know about accept for me so a large garden and i can build protection around it if by some miracle zombies do find out about it and can build houses so i think thats a good idea.(: 0  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
1. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 2:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 2:06 PM EDT
1. Why do you think you're the only one in the world who knows about these islands? Did we forget to invent Google Earth in your dimension?

2. Can you farm? Do you have seeds and all the equipment needed for farming? Do you know what acreage you'll need to ensure a steady, healthy diet?

3. Can you build?
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ValentineDay
2. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 2:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 2:19 PM EDT
"1. Why do you think you're the only one in the world who knows about these islands? Did we forget to invent Google Earth in your dimension?

2. Can you farm? Do you have seeds and all the equipment needed for farming? Do you know what acreage you'll need to ensure a steady, healthy diet?

3. Can you build?"
Well yeah im probaly wrong about the only person who knows.But yeah ive been farming my whole life.My dad taught me how to build a log cabin and ab out the protection well,I dont think it would that hard for for me to build a at least a 8 foot tall wood fence because i have done before and for a steady water supply i will have to learn up on that.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
3. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 2:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 2:39 PM EDT
Where is this island? 7  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
chitoryu12
chitoryu12
4. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 2:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 2:42 PM EDT
"Where is this island?"
But if he tells you, he won't be the only one who knows about it!
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ValentineDay
5. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 2:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 2:45 PM EDT
Ive looked this island up on google earth and even though it is visble just by a tiny bit and what zombieyou think is
gonna know how to use a computer
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
6. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 3:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 3:27 PM EDT
"But if he tells you, he won't be the only one who knows about it!"
Curious about just how defendable it is, the kind of conditions you would put up with.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
7. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 3:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 3:38 PM EDT
Do you know there are about 6000 people who own boats (big yachts mostly) who at any one time are permanently cruising around the planet, they live on their boats and just sail round and round.

They know where your island is! They know where 'all' the islands are and when the SHTF they will be heading for places like St Paul's in the South Atlantic or Amsterdam Island in the middle of the Indian Ocean because those two are the most geographically remote places on the planet.

Of course if you are not fortunate enough to own some 65 foot ocean going yacht then you (and every one else) will have to head for somewhere your boat can manage, but the point is everyone with boats (or the ones with charts) knows where all of the islands are.
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humanroach
humanroach
8. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 4:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 4:41 PM EDT
"Now i have a boat full of a gas and i know about this islands in the middle of and ocean its not very big at least 5 to 6 miles long and no one else know about accept for me so a large garden and i can build protection around it if by some miracle zombies do find out about it and can build houses so i think thats a good idea.(:"
the only concerns i see are these:

1. how will you deal with tropical storms, because most islands have to deal with those. (is this island in the ocean?)

2. is this a deserted island or inhabited? if its deserted i think you will find that you will need to bring alot more gear/equipment than you think. when i moved out of mom and dads into my first apartment, i didnt realize how many household items i took for granted.

3. if its not a deserted island, you will have 2 problems to deal with before you can start farming, other survivors and zombies.

i think its a great idea, if i could i would sail to hawaii, make a base camp on a deserted island and begin cleansing the island Hawaii to make way for my farm.
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ValentineDay
9. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 5:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 5:56 PM EDT
With just about 10 people the island will be well defdable but for tropical storms well ill have to think of something.If anyone has any ideas im open for suggestions. Do you find this valuable?    
hellface666
hellface666
10. RE: islands?
Jun 29 2011, 11:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 29 2011, 11:41 PM EDT
"With just about 10 people the island will be well defdable but for tropical storms well ill have to think of something.If anyone has any ideas im open for suggestions."
Hm... In an absolutely perfect world, you could build a bunker, or safe room of some sort. But since it is NOT a perfect world, I don't know then.
And humanroach, just DON'T pick the island where they filmed LOST... Crazy S*** goes on round there.
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Reaper37
Reaper37
11. RE: islands?
Jun 30 2011, 4:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 30 2011, 4:01 AM EDT
"Hm... In an absolutely perfect world, you could build a bunker, or safe room of some sort. But since it is NOT a perfect world, I don't know then.
And humanroach, just DON'T pick the island where they filmed LOST... Crazy S*** goes on round there."
Hey, a black mist for protection, crazy local inhabitants to use as slave labor, and the whole jumping in time thing, i think that's a great island to be at come post SHTF.... Plus it has a really great view and already some infrastructure, however its a bit of a fixer upper, been sitting since the 70's.

As for the subject, i think the island is a great idea, however as already mentioned by others, it will take some serious planning to ensure it would be a success...
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garcianator55
12. RE: islands?
Jul 21 2011, 5:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2011, 5:15 PM EDT
if you plan on living on an island you have to consider three things: weather, clean water, and protection.
if it is warm and sunny all the time then you may be able to grow crops year round.(if you have farming experience)
then you have to worry about how your going to get clean drinkable water. every group member needs a minimum of one gallon per day.
lastly how are you going to build the protection. going to the local home depot and haling all the supplies back to the island is going to use up a lot of gas. well then you might say you don't need much protection because zombies wont be able to reach the island but there is a possibility that a person on a boat turned into a zombie and that boat washed ashore the island if that happens you may be screwed.
so think out your island zombie plan and use the worst case scenario strategy.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
13. RE: islands?
Nov 2 2011, 1:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 1:39 AM EDT
"Do you know there are about 6000 people who own boats (big yachts mostly) who at any one time are permanently cruising around the planet, they live on their boats and just sail round and round.

They know where your island is! They know where 'all' the islands are and when the SHTF they will be heading for places like St Paul's in the South Atlantic or Amsterdam Island in the middle of the Indian Ocean because those two are the most geographically remote places on the planet.

Of course if you are not fortunate enough to own some 65 foot ocean going yacht then you (and every one else) will have to head for somewhere your boat can manage, but the point is everyone with boats (or the ones with charts) knows where all of the islands are.
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Not completely true there is said to be thousands of undiscovered/and or deserted islands in the pacific ocean so you never know he may find an island the size of Rwanda. I suggest you get a map and try to find Rwanda, its pretty small isn't it even combined with Burundi its tiny. Rwanda is about 10,000sq miles if you can barely find that on a map i wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't find an island say the size of Crete or Nauru. So don't worry there's still a chance for us Luddites to escape from this **** hole of a world and start over again and get back to the good old pre industrialized world.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
14. RE: islands?
Nov 2 2011, 9:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 9:20 AM EDT
You have been misinformed or are possibly confusing 'undiscovered' for unvisited by someone who made a note of it, and almost certainly mistaking 'deserted' for islands that can sustain life.

There are a very few undiscovered or inmperfectly charted bodies like the almost submerged sea mounts of the south China sea. One of which was found by a good friend of mine when it destroyed his 70 foot crusing yacht while running before a storm. And while it wasn´t marked on the charts the local Philipino fishermen who rescued him and his friend knew well enough about it to make them swim through literally shark infested waters rather than put their boat anywhere near the hazzard.

My friend discribed it as the size of a small garden and didn´t have a single blade of grass let alone the lone coconut tree of the cartoons.

Large organizations like the Royal Navy spent centuries labouriously ploting everything they could find and satalite technology has got it down to fractions of a second of accuracy.

Rwanda? west of Lake Victoria a little below where Africa stops being wide and begins to be long. . . Ask me a hard one.
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
15. RE: islands?
Nov 2 2011, 9:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 9:25 AM EDT
Go live on a Russian Nuclear Lighthouse. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
16. RE: islands?
Nov 2 2011, 10:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 10:01 AM EDT
"Not completely true there is said to be thousands of undiscovered/and or deserted islands in the pacific ocean so you never know he may find an island the size of Rwanda. I suggest you get a map and try to find Rwanda, its pretty small isn't it even combined with Burundi its tiny. Rwanda is about 10,000sq miles if you can barely find that on a map i wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't find an island say the size of Crete or Nauru. So don't worry there's still a chance for us Luddites to escape from this **** hole of a world and start over again and get back to the good old pre industrialized world."
Ever hear of Google Earth? The whole planet surface has been mapped, including any tiny spits of land. Whilst you might not be able to see a high resolution map of them all, they are pinpointed on there.
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
17. RE: islands?
Nov 2 2011, 10:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 10:24 AM EDT
If they're small enough that they haven't been mapped, they're small enough to be more useless than the boat you're already on. Do you find this valuable?    
redcomrad
redcomrad
18. RE: islands?
Nov 4 2011, 7:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 8:05 PM EDT
"You have been misinformed or are possibly confusing 'undiscovered' for unvisited by someone who made a note of it, and almost certainly mistaking 'deserted' for islands that can sustain life.

There are a very few undiscovered or inmperfectly charted bodies like the almost submerged sea mounts of the south China sea. One of which was found by a good friend of mine when it destroyed his 70 foot crusing yacht while running before a storm. And while it wasn´t marked on the charts the local Philipino fishermen who rescued him and his friend knew well enough about it to make them swim through literally shark infested waters rather than put their boat anywhere near the hazzard.

My friend discribed it as the size of a small garden and didn´t have a single blade of grass let alone the lone coconut tree of the cartoons.

Large organizations like the Royal Navy spent centuries labouriously ploting everything they could find and satalite technology has got it down to fractions of a second of accuracy.

Rwanda? west of Lake Victoria a little below where Africa stops being wide and begins to be long. . . Ask me a hard one.
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cape Verde and Samoa
deserted; i meant meaning that it is uninhabited, not saying it can either support life or has been discovered by anyone
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slasher767
19. RE: islands?
Nov 5 2011, 12:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 5 2011, 12:32 AM EDT
Tropical storms: Btw this relies heavily on having timber eg trees. Build a giant ass hole with several levels so if it starts filling in with water you can go to a higher one. What you do is find the driest place on the island probably the center. then dig a really big hole every 8 feet or so down put wood on the ground so you can dig underneath it. You may want to put your log hut on top of this hole so the hole has extra protection and you have easy access.
Also make sea walls these can also serve as your normal wall. The only difference is you mound earth in front and behind them especially behind. To get over the wall either make a few ladders and every morning you can push them over and every night bring them back.
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