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AlbertanSurvivor
AlbertanSurvivor
practicality
Jul 1 2011, 2:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 2:13 PM EDT
Remember kids that the key to SURVIVAL is the practicality of your choice of weapons. I'm blown away at why there would even be a section like this!!! if there is access to anti-personel/armour weaponry, which there ISNT, it wouldn't be viable to carry a Javelin or a Stinger on your back. Any idea how hard it's going to be to find ammunition for these weapons post z-day?? Do you find this valuable?    
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EastCoaster9000
1. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 2:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 2:19 PM EDT
B-b-but tactical is practical!
Anyway, this section was just a page on weaponry. We fully know none of us will get access to these unless in the armed forces or otherwise. This was just here because we felt like it. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Reaper37
Reaper37
2. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 2:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 2:29 PM EDT
Well, as unlikely as it is to come across weapons like these, it isn't impossible. Plus you must remember, aside from the zed thing we always talk about, this site is meant for survival in general after the apocalypse. Though an AT-4 Rocket Launcher might not be viable to use against zeds, it will do wonders against raiders or gangs. So that is why it is up here, to point out different types of weapons one might be able to obtain and utilize.... Do you find this valuable?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
3. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 2:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 2:46 PM EDT
"Remember kids that the key to SURVIVAL is the practicality of your choice of weapons. I'm blown away at why there would even be a section like this!!! if there is access to anti-personel/armour weaponry, which there ISNT, it wouldn't be viable to carry a Javelin or a Stinger on your back. Any idea how hard it's going to be to find ammunition for these weapons post z-day??"
Whilst inclusion of these in your plan reeks of Mall Ninja, being able to identify these and having some knowledge of them will be useful.

For example, the oft-feared Ex-Military Raiders could have an ample supply of these. Wouldn't it make sense to be able to identify the threat so you can counter it? 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Carnack
Carnack
4. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 4:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 4:50 PM EDT
"Whilst inclusion of these in your plan reeks of Mall Ninja, being able to identify these and having some knowledge of them will be useful.

For example, the oft-feared Ex-Military Raiders could have an ample supply of these. Wouldn't it make sense to be able to identify the threat so you can counter it?"
You may never get to use one but being able to at least operate and clean the mechanics of the weapon means that if the NRA card-carrying angels smile upon you and you do come into possession of one you can use it without losing your face or a few fingers. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
AlbertanSurvivor
AlbertanSurvivor
5. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 11:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 11:05 PM EDT
Can't argue with that! Do you find this valuable?    
AlbertanSurvivor
AlbertanSurvivor
6. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 11:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 11:14 PM EDT
I see the point you're making, but how would you be able to counter RPG fire? (not trying to be a smart ass here actually curious how you would) i see it as you being pinned down after the initial shot, then having to move where they want you to, exposing you by destroying every bit of cover before you can return any form of suppressive fire as either the explosion or small arms picks you off...(Side note: my plan involves my removal from any sort of populated areas) Do you find this valuable?    
SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
7. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 11:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 11:22 PM EDT
"Remember kids that the key to SURVIVAL is the practicality of your choice of weapons. I'm blown away at why there would even be a section like this!!! if there is access to anti-personel/armour weaponry, which there ISNT, it wouldn't be viable to carry a Javelin or a Stinger on your back. Any idea how hard it's going to be to find ammunition for these weapons post z-day??"
I would like to say that I believe survival relies more on the supply food and water, as well as avoidance of conflict rather than your choice of weapons.

Also, IMO, an important part of planning is considering every eventuality, including coming across stuff like this.

Just my .02 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Themiddleodnowhere
Themiddleodnowhere
8. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 11:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 11:37 PM EDT
"I see the point you're making, but how would you be able to counter RPG fire? (not trying to be a smart ass here actually curious how you would) i see it as you being pinned down after the initial shot, then having to move where they want you to, exposing you by destroying every bit of cover before you can return any form of suppressive fire as either the explosion or small arms picks you off...(Side note: my plan involves my removal from any sort of populated areas)"
shoot at them, would you want to make yourself the biggest target you can be by having a missile launcher? much less the contrails of a fired one leading right back to you? neither does the person with the RPG, just lob a couple shots their way and they'll duck/die Do you find this valuable?    
VagabondVance
VagabondVance
9. RE: practicality
Jul 1 2011, 11:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2011, 11:51 PM EDT
If one has a missile launcher it is reasonable to infer that he isn't alone, so while he reloads behind cover, guess who his buddies will take aim at? 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
AlbertanSurvivor
AlbertanSurvivor
10. RE: practicality
Jul 2 2011, 12:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2011, 12:17 AM EDT
his buddies (if they have any tactics at all) are shooting at you as the launcher reloads... even if you out numbered them you wouldnt for long. 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

Gunnersrus
11. RE: practicality
Jul 2 2011, 1:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2011, 1:25 AM EDT
I'll stick to a chain saw mouted under a homemade shot gun rocket luncher made from fence pole nails and bambo filled with 10 pouneds of gun pounder and well the lastones my little secret same for my land mine I will make a thread on this maby I will next time I'm bored
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Gunnersrus
12. RE: practicality
Jul 2 2011, 1:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2011, 1:27 AM EDT
"I'll stick to a chain saw mouted under a homemade shot gun rocket luncher made from fence pole nails and bambo filled with 10 pouneds of gun pounder and well the lastones my little secret same for my land mine I will make a thread on this maby I will next time I'm bored
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Oh ya thorths are not the complet plans 0  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
randomknife666
randomknife666
13. RE: practicality
Jul 2 2011, 1:49 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2011, 1:49 AM EDT
"I'll stick to a chain saw mouted under a homemade shot gun rocket luncher made from fence pole nails and bambo filled with 10 pouneds of gun pounder and well the lastones my little secret same for my land mine I will make a thread on this maby I will next time I'm bored

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Fail troll is fail??? Or is this a bad attempt at sarcasm 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
14. RE: practicality
Jul 2 2011, 10:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2011, 10:07 AM EDT
In response to several requests, Gunnersrus is being officially warned about his behavior. See attached thread on his profile for details. Do you find this valuable?    
crittergetter
crittergetter
15. RE: practicality
Jul 19 2011, 1:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 19 2011, 1:12 AM EDT
"I see the point you're making, but how would you be able to counter RPG fire? (not trying to be a smart ass here actually curious how you would) i see it as you being pinned down after the initial shot, then having to move where they want you to, exposing you by destroying every bit of cover before you can return any form of suppressive fire as either the explosion or small arms picks you off...(Side note: my plan involves my removal from any sort of populated areas)"
Well if its after the Apox then there would be access to some if not all. Just depends on your local Gaurd armory or if close to a military base.
As for countering a RPG. You shouldnt be alone and shoot the dude with the big pipe 1st or any thing like heavy weapons. A sniper/hunting (scoped) rifle or 2 in your group should take the 1st shots and be to take down RPGs or MGs or whatever is a danger. Everyone else takes on the rest. AMBUSH otherwise if not RUN
As for going native. remember others are too and any city refugees or raiders are going to be looking for food from the farm country. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
crittergetter
crittergetter
16. RE: practicality
Jul 19 2011, 1:23 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 19 2011, 1:23 AM EDT
"his buddies (if they have any tactics at all) are shooting at you as the launcher reloads... even if you out numbered them you wouldnt for long."
An RPG is lucky to hit a tank at 100yrds. They arent accurate so the Russians put 1 in each squad so a platoon could have 4-6 launchers. When used as ground support on personnel they aimed at groups. Also the rocket is slow enough you can tell if its for you. Then either duck behind cover or kiss dirt. He can only shoot at 1 target at a time. Do you find this valuable?    
vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
17. RE: practicality
Jul 24 2011, 7:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2011, 7:38 PM EDT
"Remember kids that the key to SURVIVAL is the practicality of your choice of weapons. I'm blown away at why there would even be a section like this!!! if there is access to anti-personel/armour weaponry, which there ISNT, it wouldn't be viable to carry a Javelin or a Stinger on your back. Any idea how hard it's going to be to find ammunition for these weapons post z-day??"
I agree completely in every way. Do you find this valuable?    
crittergetter
crittergetter
18. RE: practicality
Jul 28 2011, 10:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 28 2011, 10:07 AM EDT
People dont always do the most logical
Now if you had access to a few RPGs or anti-tank weapons (most aa missiles IE stinger wouldnt work no aircraft) and a community had bunkers or even strngly built defenses. It might be worth the try. If nothing else it might scare them enough to give you stuff. You can use it for more than shooting tanks. Do you find this valuable?    
John_234
John_234
19. RE: practicality
Jul 28 2011, 8:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 28 2011, 8:35 PM EDT
Some "heavy" weapons, like the 40mms aren't really that heavy. Every squad will have an M203. Every few humvees will generally have an M2 or a Mk19. If you expect to find any military assets in general, those weapons would not be a big surprise to run across.

As for the rockets, it's importantly knowing what *NOT* to do with them as well as knowing how to use them. I'll be honest. This type of page doesn't tell you anything about tactics.

It doesn't tell you that RPG-7 rockets drift cross-wind at range, that they can be bypassed by some types of fence. Or that they have smaller backblast than most rockets, allowing easier firing from within buildings. Nor does it state minimum arming range of fifty meters, the max realistic range of one hundred meters accurately against the typical armored vehicle.

Don't kid yourself. You're not a military tactician. You're not qualified to make strategies to take down rocket-propelled grenades. The only thing this will do is show you how to *fire* one given you're in a situation bad enough to need it. Do you find this valuable?    
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