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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 8 2011, 9:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 9:45 AM EDT
I've been looking at the Cold Steel UK website, and they have some very cheap machetes on there. The only things stopping me buying one is that on forums such as this I've come across people who seem to hate even hearing about Cold Steel.

I wonder if anybody could tell me why this is? I have the feeling it's because CS have a lot of swords which just look flashy, and are just for decoration. If anybody has had any experience with a CS machete I'd be grateful for some input.

Personally, I can't see where they could go wrong with a simple machete. If it's blunt i can make it sharp, all i want is a length of decent metal that isn't going to break. I'm very tempted to buy the 18" one for £12

www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/Machetes.html
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Carnack
Carnack
1. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 8 2011, 1:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 1:24 PM EDT
You mean that Latin Machete? I'm not seeing a 12 dollar/pounds tag anywhere...

It's nice for sparser areas but the Kurkri, Panga, Bolo, and Heavy machetes would work better in closer areas.

In my opinion CS's machete steel has declined somewhat. The long blade seems nice but I'd be leery with CS's steel.

Important to note though is that it may just be a difference in models.

Overall for the money CS's lower-end machetes are a good value.
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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
2. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 8 2011, 1:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 1:59 PM EDT
cool, thanks for the input.
Did you click on the picture of the latin machete, because it gives different prices for different lengths, i've just been on the page like 2 minutes ago. Maybe it didn't work for you for some reason.
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Carnack
Carnack
3. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 8 2011, 2:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 2:16 PM EDT
"cool, thanks for the input.
Did you click on the picture of the latin machete, because it gives different prices for different lengths, i've just been on the page like 2 minutes ago. Maybe it didn't work for you for some reason."
Oh well that explains it.

I looked at the prices under the pictures on the page you linked. =^_^=

As for people who hate CS think of it as the Glock vs 1911s or the AK-47 vs AR-15. It's mostly a matter of taste.
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rabidbeaver
rabidbeaver
4. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 8 2011, 3:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 3:04 PM EDT
I bought a Cold Steel Kukri machete and it was great. But it came dull like way beyond hand sharpening dull. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
5. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 8 2011, 6:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 6:31 PM EDT
"I bought a Cold Steel Kukri machete and it was great. But it came dull like way beyond hand sharpening dull."
Yeah that is a problem I get from them often.
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LastPariah
LastPariah
6. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 8 2011, 7:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 7:23 PM EDT
I also want one
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oldannyboy37
oldannyboy37
7. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 9 2011, 1:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 9 2011, 1:44 AM EDT
If I'm not mistaken. Cold Steel uses 1044 carbon steel in their machetes and tomahawks. They use the same steel in a lot of their value knifes as well.
My Cold Steel GI tanto is made out of 1044, it seems pretty durable but it's a softer steel than a higher carbon steel.
I.E it's easy to sharpen up well but it's going to get dull quicker in most cases.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
8. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 9 2011, 4:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 9 2011, 4:36 AM EDT
"If I'm not mistaken. Cold Steel uses 1044 carbon steel in their machetes and tomahawks. They use the same steel in a lot of their value knifes as well.
My Cold Steel GI tanto is made out of 1044, it seems pretty durable but it's a softer steel than a higher carbon steel.
I.E it's easy to sharpen up well but it's going to get dull quicker in most cases. "
It's 1055 steel. Which is strong enough to hold the required edge for most machetes.

They ship with what they refer to as a utility edge to help prevent issues during shipping. For what you pay they are fabulous values.
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oldannyboy37
oldannyboy37
9. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 9 2011, 1:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 9 2011, 1:45 PM EDT
"It's 1055 steel. Which is strong enough to hold the required edge for most machetes.

They ship with what they refer to as a utility edge to help prevent issues during shipping. For what you pay they are fabulous values."
My mistake lol. In my opinion 1055 is a better choice for serious use.
I like both steels though.
Thanks for the correction.
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crazyteddy36
10. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 9 2011, 1:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 9 2011, 1:49 PM EDT
I enjoy my CS machete however, some of my buddies can't stand them its all a matter of taste. I have found though that carrying a file to keep the blade up to par is a good idea until you can hit it with a whetstone. Do you find this valuable?    
milsurpgeek
milsurpgeek
11. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 10:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 10:59 AM EDT
I own a couple of cold steel items. I have the katana machete,kukri machete, and my favorite is the combat shovel since i use it for everything from pounding nails to hacking brush to digging a latrine. Do you find this valuable?    
csboy755
csboy755
12. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 11:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 11:07 AM EDT
The steel doesn't matter TOO much (Just as long as it's Carbon steel), rather, the heat treatment is more important.many people don't like Cold steel because their quality control is occasionally iffy(as in their products are dull). Cold Steel makes really great stuff. Their swords are NOT just for show, they're fully functional and the most durable I've ever seen. Now on the subject of machetes, I own their Kukri machete and their two-handed katana machete. Both arrived with a "factory edge" that was pretty dull. However, after a 10 minute sharpening session using a simple accusharp, I can draw blood by running my finger lightly along the edge of either weapon. Both machetes have an extremely good chopping power, and they are sharp enough (after sharpening) to take on light targets such as water bottles and milk jugs (only really sharp weapons can cut those; if the edge is too thick or dull, it will just send a water bottle flying). I used the Two handed katana machete to cut down a tree that was about a foot in diameter. The kurki also throws well. after using the kukri for a year almost every day and abusing it in all kinds of manners, it only has some places on the blade where the edge has rolled (however I've sharpened it so that the rolls are less pronounced.).The two handed machete still has no damage. Trueswords.com sells a bunch of cold steel machetes at extremely low prices. If you live overseas, Trueswords has another site that ships internationally; swordcompany.com (if sword company doesn't have a product that trueswords has, just notify Trueswords and they will add it to the other site). So in conclusion, cold steel's machetes are truly awesome choppers. As for the dullness issue, a machete should be slightly dull because a sharp edge will chip or roll easier. If you want to sharpen it, just buy an Accusharp sharpener. Those things cost like 12 bucks, but effectively sharpen knives and swords in minutes 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
13. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 5:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 5:52 PM EDT
"The steel doesn't matter TOO much (Just as long as it's Carbon steel), rather, the heat treatment is more important.many people don't like Cold steel because their quality control is occasionally iffy(as in their products are dull)."
sorry to burst your bubble hoss, but yes the steel does matter. There is a big difference between a 1016 carbon steel and a 1060.
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Carnack
Carnack
14. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 5:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 5:57 PM EDT
"sorry to burst your bubble hoss, but yes the steel does matter. There is a big difference between a 1016 carbon steel and a 1060."
Okay sorry to sound like a goober here but what do those numbers mean?

And on an unrelated note is SK5 any good O Lord of the Forge?
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PaganArcher
15. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 6:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 6:06 PM EDT
"Okay sorry to sound like a goober here but what do those numbers mean?

And on an unrelated note is SK5 any good O Lord of the Forge?"
If I remember my metallurgy correctly, the 1 denotes carbon steel, the 0 denotes that it is plain carbon steel, and the last two numbers denote the carbon percentage by weight. So 1060 steel is 60 percent carbon while 1016 is only 16 percent carbon.
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oldannyboy37
oldannyboy37
16. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 6:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 6:45 PM EDT
I'm not a steel expert myself but I'm pretty sure PA is right. In my experience if the last two numbers are lower the steel will be softer and if they are higher the steel will be harder.
Like I mentioned when I said 1044 dulls easier because it's a softer steel, but it sharpens easier as well. As opposed to 1055 which will have a longer lasting edge, but will take just a little bit more sharpening.
That's just been my personal experience though.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
17. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 6:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 6:50 PM EDT
"If I remember my metallurgy correctly, the 1 denotes carbon steel, the 0 denotes that it is plain carbon steel, and the last two numbers denote the carbon percentage by weight. So 1060 steel is 60 percent carbon while 1016 is only 16 percent carbon."
You are close to right, although you messed up on the percentages. 1060 is .60 percent carbon.
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PaganArcher
18. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 6:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 6:55 PM EDT
"You are close to right, although you messed up on the percentages. 1060 is .60 percent carbon."
Thanks for the correction brandon. It's been a while since I had to remember all the figures.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
19. RE: Cold Steel Machetes
Jul 10 2011, 8:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2011, 8:32 PM EDT
Yeah, it's just important because over 1 percent it's technically cast steel, and past that it becomes cast iron. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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