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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
The SKS
Jul 8 2011, 12:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 12:55 PM EDT
Well, the round has some good stopping power, and if you have 30 round mags, then you'd be using the same round with the same capacity as and AK-47, but I hear SKS is more accurate. Of course, it lacks the fabled reliability of the AK-47, and is an older design, but I hear good things about it. The AK-47, however, takes 75 round drums. Really you could carry both and have one type of ammo, using one or the other depending on whether you needed reliability or accuracy. SKS is cheaper, too, and there are a lot of surplus in the US, but they aren't really in production, are they? Well...just tell me your thoughts on this rifle and its use (particularly against rager zombies). 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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toxic_shock
toxic_shock
1. RE: The SKS
Jul 8 2011, 1:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 1:06 PM EDT
I've got a couple SKS's, one a bastardized Norinco with 20 round mags, a red dot, and a dragonov stock. The other is a beat-up Yugo 59-66. The thing about the SKS is that they were not originally designed with detachable mags, making the mag release/bolt hold open functions not exactly combat friendly.

I wouldn't base your decision on drum mags. Three 30 round AK mags will be less cumbersome, less expensive, more reliable and have more capacity than a 75 round drum.

The SKS is just as reliable as an AK, but they don't get the reputation since their primary military role was cut short by the cheaper to produce, detachable mag, full auto AK.

Either weapons system is a fine choice. Carry both? Nah, too redundant. If you are able to carry two long guns make one of them a shotgun. I may sell off my bastardized SKS for an AK, and have both in my safe.
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
2. RE: The SKS
Jul 8 2011, 6:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 8 2011, 6:03 PM EDT
"I've got a couple SKS's, one a bastardized Norinco with 20 round mags, a red dot, and a dragonov stock. The other is a beat-up Yugo 59-66. The thing about the SKS is that they were not originally designed with detachable mags, making the mag release/bolt hold open functions not exactly combat friendly.

I wouldn't base your decision on drum mags. Three 30 round AK mags will be less cumbersome, less expensive, more reliable and have more capacity than a 75 round drum.

The SKS is just as reliable as an AK, but they don't get the reputation since their primary military role was cut short by the cheaper to produce, detachable mag, full auto AK.

Either weapons system is a fine choice. Carry both? Nah, too redundant. If you are able to carry two long guns make one of them a shotgun. I may sell off my bastardized SKS for an AK, and have both in my safe."
Okay, thanks for the information. I think you have a point about drums, but I'm a bad reloader, and I love high capacity. Thanks again, nice to have the opinion of an SKS owner. Excellent
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UNCLE_ZEDDY
UNCLE_ZEDDY
3. RE: The SKS
Jul 17 2011, 1:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2011, 1:40 PM EDT
"I've got a couple SKS's, one a bastardized Norinco with 20 round mags, a red dot, and a dragonov stock. The other is a beat-up Yugo 59-66. The thing about the SKS is that they were not originally designed with detachable mags, making the mag release/bolt hold open functions not exactly combat friendly.

I wouldn't base your decision on drum mags. Three 30 round AK mags will be less cumbersome, less expensive, more reliable and have more capacity than a 75 round drum.

The SKS is just as reliable as an AK, but they don't get the reputation since their primary military role was cut short by the cheaper to produce, detachable mag, full auto AK.

Either weapons system is a fine choice. Carry both? Nah, too redundant. If you are able to carry two long guns make one of them a shotgun. I may sell off my bastardized SKS for an AK, and have both in my safe."
I have to agree with your thoughts on the SKS solid platform, reliable, make a decent club too ;). Even with ten round stripper clips I would pick up a SKS off the ground before a AK.
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oldannyboy37
oldannyboy37
4. RE: The SKS
Jul 17 2011, 1:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2011, 1:47 PM EDT
"I've got a couple SKS's, one a bastardized Norinco with 20 round mags, a red dot, and a dragonov stock. The other is a beat-up Yugo 59-66. The thing about the SKS is that they were not originally designed with detachable mags, making the mag release/bolt hold open functions not exactly combat friendly.

I wouldn't base your decision on drum mags. Three 30 round AK mags will be less cumbersome, less expensive, more reliable and have more capacity than a 75 round drum.

The SKS is just as reliable as an AK, but they don't get the reputation since their primary military role was cut short by the cheaper to produce, detachable mag, full auto AK.

Either weapons system is a fine choice. Carry both? Nah, too redundant. If you are able to carry two long guns make one of them a shotgun. I may sell off my bastardized SKS for an AK, and have both in my safe."
I agree for the most part.

I love my AK and my SKS. I think the AK has a very slight advantage in reliability because of the loose tolerances in the receiver. That said I've had the SKS for almost a decade and it's never had a single malfunction.

I'd like to get a Norinco SKS that used AK mags. I'm very leery of hi cap SKS mags. I'm sure there's some that work well but I haven't seen any personally. As TS said, carrying both would be a bit heavy. I'd pick one to carry and keep the other stashed as a back up.

Either rifle will serve you will. Here's my video about my Norinco SKS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hln_-oIW1_M&feature=channel_video_title
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crittergetter
crittergetter
5. RE: The SKS
Jul 18 2011, 2:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 23 2011, 5:25 PM EDT
The SKS was designed !st but AK was a a close 2nd. But the USSR didnt have the propper stamping technology yet. So the 1st AKs were milled like the SKS thus harder 2 manufacture. So the SKS was the main weapon untill the stamping and production AKs were being produced in large enough numbers. The SKS is a heavier weapon and longer which helps with accuracy. There are 75rd drums on the market for it and a conversion mag release that makes it easier change mags. But as said earlier a 10 or 20rd mag with a bandalier of stripper clip/ammo would be as fast but simpler and with the added benifit of more ammo for the weight. Your not carrying around the mags which is another part to malfunction. Its all preference/cost/and scenario. You could buy 2 or more SKSs for the cost of 1 M16 clone. Or totally outfit with ammo & accessories an SKS for the cost of just a typical AK clone.
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kalani_bg
kalani_bg
6. RE: The SKS
Jul 20 2011, 12:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2011, 12:09 PM EDT
"Well, the round has some good stopping power, and if you have 30 round mags, then you'd be using the same round with the same capacity as and AK-47, but I hear SKS is more accurate. Of course, it lacks the fabled reliability of the AK-47, and is an older design, but I hear good things about it. The AK-47, however, takes 75 round drums. Really you could carry both and have one type of ammo, using one or the other depending on whether you needed reliability or accuracy. SKS is cheaper, too, and there are a lot of surplus in the US, but they aren't really in production, are they? Well...just tell me your thoughts on this rifle and its use (particularly against rager zombies). "
they make drums for sks basicaly they are ak drums witht he sks magazine flange welded on.....
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demsmine
demsmine
7. RE: The SKS
Jul 21 2011, 2:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2011, 2:13 AM EDT
My SKS is a Nornico with an after market Tapco stock and a red dot scope. It is a decent shooter, and in general a fun weapon. I have never had trouble with the detachable mags as long as i use the 20rd Tapco mags. I swear Tapco does that sh!t on purpose,

Bottom line, I would take the Pepsi challenge with it against a semi-auto AK any day.
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duterfel
duterfel
8. RE: The SKS
Jul 21 2011, 3:33 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2011, 3:33 AM EDT
I love the SKS rifles. We fired one the other day at the range to the point of cooking off the finish on the wooden stock. The damn thing never failed to fire reguardless of how hot it got.

I will be picking up a russian modle as soon as funds allow.
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crittergetter
crittergetter
9. RE: The SKS
Jul 21 2011, 10:22 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2011, 10:22 AM EDT
"I love the SKS rifles. We fired one the other day at the range to the point of cooking off the finish on the wooden stock. The damn thing never failed to fire reguardless of how hot it got.

I will be picking up a russian modle as soon as funds allow."
That is anothjer draw back on the SKS. When shot awhile the hand gaurd does get uncomfortable to grasp from the heat. Thats another reason to stay with 10/20rd mags. While reloading it helps cool it down some. There are after market stock kits that do help with the heat but it will still heat up. Just recomend the shooter wearing gloves.
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crittergetter
crittergetter
10. RE: The SKS
Jul 21 2011, 10:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2011, 10:48 AM EDT
"I love the SKS rifles. We fired one the other day at the range to the point of cooking off the finish on the wooden stock. The damn thing never failed to fire reguardless of how hot it got.

I will be picking up a russian modle as soon as funds allow."
I would check out the Yugoslavian M59 series also. They are heavier but cheaper.
The M59 is a a basic SKS copy but stronger built (its almost completely milled) but has less tolerances for fowling but still better than most semi-autos.
The M59/66 has a NATO style grenade launcher/muzzle brake and a NATO style ladder flip up site for the grenade launcher. There is a gas cut off switch/lever on it to keep it at single shot. Its for safety reasons when useing the grenade launcher. It also comes with its own rubber recoil pad.
The M59/66A1 has floresense(? glow-in-dark lol) sites. The rear site flips from day to night.
With Russian SKSs your paying for the original SKS at a premium. Most SKS fans dont like the grenade options because its useless (mostly) clutter and extra weight. Another reason is its not a pure SKS.
Just a thought.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
11. RE: The SKS
Dec 13 2011, 11:58 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 13 2011, 11:58 PM EST
I've got something to add to this. I may also put it in the SKS portion of the weapons page (I think there's one anyways...) This applies to the Simonov (Russian) SKS rifles

When buying an SKS you can actually check the accuracy of it SOLELY by looking at it, know how? Look at the front sight, see a number? (1, 2, or 3) When the Russkies test fired the SKS they stamped the rifles front sights with one of the numbers with 1 being the best (2 inch groups I think) and 3 being the worst. Hope this helps anyone wanting to purchase an SKS rifle
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
12. RE: The SKS
Dec 13 2011, 11:59 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 13 2011, 11:59 PM EST
"That is anothjer draw back on the SKS. When shot awhile the hand gaurd does get uncomfortable to grasp from the heat. Thats another reason to stay with 10/20rd mags. While reloading it helps cool it down some. There are after market stock kits that do help with the heat but it will still heat up. Just recomend the shooter wearing gloves."
Keep in mind that us Canadians are limited to 5 round mags
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Filadog
Filadog
13. RE: The SKS
Dec 14 2011, 4:56 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2011, 4:56 AM EST
"I've got something to add to this. I may also put it in the SKS portion of the weapons page (I think there's one anyways...) This applies to the Simonov (Russian) SKS rifles

When buying an SKS you can actually check the accuracy of it SOLELY by looking at it, know how? Look at the front sight, see a number? (1, 2, or 3) When the Russkies test fired the SKS they stamped the rifles front sights with one of the numbers with 1 being the best (2 inch groups I think) and 3 being the worst. Hope this helps anyone wanting to purchase an SKS rifle"
Actually....

While you do hear people say that the number on the front denotes how accurate the rifle is I think it is pretty well acepted that this is just an internet old wives tale
More knowledgable folks say that it is really what is known as a ring assembly number used by machinists which makes much more sense

The outside diameter of the barrel that the sight goes on varies slightly on different barrels. A number 1 size barrel will take a number 1 sight base etc. which the gun builder will choose out of the correct bin of numbered parts.Most of these rifles will also have a gas ring stamped with the same number as the front sight....These parts would be mumbered befor putting on the gun

If you have ever used a hand stamp befor you know to make a number in the steel you have to hit it pretty hard with a hammer. Usually considered a good thing not to hit the front sights of a rifle hard with a hammer or punch after you have it sighted in
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Bleak_91
14. RE: The SKS
Dec 14 2011, 8:31 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2011, 8:31 AM EST
Just one question though...will it still have the sweet accuracy even converted with TAPCO conversion kits? Because that's what's on my mind when i get one...the original Soviet ones are becoming rare these days. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
15. RE: The SKS
Dec 14 2011, 9:03 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2011, 9:03 AM EST
That's what my dad was told when he bought his, he was told by some soldier. Shît, I'll edit the page on the SKS and remove this information. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
16. RE: The SKS
Dec 14 2011, 9:10 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2011, 9:10 AM EST
The Tapco is just the stock, doesn't really affect accuracy. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
17. RE: The SKS
Dec 14 2011, 10:37 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2011, 10:37 AM EST
"I've got something to add to this. I may also put it in the SKS portion of the weapons page (I think there's one anyways...) This applies to the Simonov (Russian) SKS rifles

When buying an SKS you can actually check the accuracy of it SOLELY by looking at it, know how? Look at the front sight, see a number? (1, 2, or 3) When the Russkies test fired the SKS they stamped the rifles front sights with one of the numbers with 1 being the best (2 inch groups I think) and 3 being the worst. Hope this helps anyone wanting to purchase an SKS rifle"
Finally, a thread I created has been necro-posted. . .sort of. I feel I have entered a whole new level of membership. Soon I'll be making fun of long banned trolls and wishing people were still around. Maybe I'll even reduce my activity to threads that require a Ph.D. in survival or at least a decade of gunsmithing experience. . .

Just kidding. . . I'm far from a veteran member. And no offence to Sharpie, necro-posts are fine by me, and they are fine with most of the staff (so long as it is a decent thread and a sensible post.)
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crittergetter
crittergetter
18. RE: The SKS
Dec 14 2011, 12:39 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2011, 12:39 PM EST
Congrats on the necro-posting.

Did you ever get the SKS or AK?
And how do you like it?
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John_234
John_234
19. RE: The SKS
Dec 14 2011, 6:22 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 14 2011, 6:25 PM EST
"The Tapco is just the stock, doesn't really affect accuracy."
Even a beat to crap 91/30 can be accurized slightly with a well bedded stock. A lot of people don't realize that when they toss whatever stocks they want onto the rifle, because AR-15s and AKs are affected by it to a much lesser extent (generally speaking.)

On topic, I'd take a SKS-D before an SKS, but I'd take a bone stock, internal mag SKS before a Tapco conversion. I really don't have problems with an internal mag SKS though. They're nice rifles.

EDIT: Weird spacing activated my OCD.
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