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White76Knight	60. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 3 2011, 10:21 AM EDT "Heck play Road Warrior and remove the hood then weld /bolt a seat on the front some where. lol The In-Laws seating" LOL - I like this. I just had a sudden mental image of my mother in laws face as we went tearing down the road with her in such a seat. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crittergetter	61. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 3 2011, 11:01 AM EDT "LOL - I like this. I just had a sudden mental image of my mother in laws face as we went tearing down the road with her in such a seat." Me too and its one of the few times they made me smile. The other times is watching their tail lights fade as they leave lol You could also use them as bait. The Zeds would try and catch them and smack grill in the face lol You could call it Zed trolling lol Just got to make sure you have the right Zed liscense and dont over fill the quota. Dang it wouldnt work. Its illegal to use bait when hunting lol Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
White76Knight	62. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 3 2011, 12:14 PM EDT "Me too and its one of the few times they made me smile. The other times is watching their tail lights fade as they leave lol You could also use them as bait. The Zeds would try and catch them and smack grill in the face lol You could call it Zed trolling lol Just got to make sure you have the right Zed liscense and dont over fill the quota. Dang it wouldnt work. Its illegal to use bait when hunting lol" LOL - After the Fall, game laws won't count any more. Use as much In Law bait as you want. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
HusselGalang	63. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 3 2011, 4:00 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 3 2011, 4:00 PM EDT Hybrid trucks with horse trailer attached with horses inside ready to be mounted. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
White76Knight	64. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 4 2011, 9:17 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 4 2011, 9:17 AM EDT "Hybrid trucks with horse trailer attached with horses inside ready to be mounted." Those horses might take a bit of a beating if you end up having to go off road at all, but otherwise sounds like a fine idea. Not to keep pushing the same idea, but if you add one of the wood gasifiers that I've mentioned previously in this thread to an already hybrid vehicle (my plan exactly, by the way) you can increase the vehicles versatility and fuel savings even more. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crittergetter	65. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 4 2011, 11:01 AM EDT "Those horses might take a bit of a beating if you end up having to go off road at all, but otherwise sounds like a fine idea. Not to keep pushing the same idea, but if you add one of the wood gasifiers that I've mentioned previously in this thread to an already hybrid vehicle (my plan exactly, by the way) you can increase the vehicles versatility and fuel savings even more." Horses are a great option but as White76Knight said you could cripple a horse when you take hard turns, stops, or normal off road. The wood gasifier is a good idea especialy with a pickup because it could be put in the bed and not on a trailer behind it. Its 1930s tech but that means not to difficult to build and maintain. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
HusselGalang	66. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 4 2011, 12:12 PM EDT "Those horses might take a bit of a beating if you end up having to go off road at all, but otherwise sounds like a fine idea. Not to keep pushing the same idea, but if you add one of the wood gasifiers that I've mentioned previously in this thread to an already hybrid vehicle (my plan exactly, by the way) you can increase the vehicles versatility and fuel savings even more." I'm updating my American Plan and my British Plan (I live in the UK but I go to States every summer) to upload, but basically involves rebuilding life in National Forests. My plan involves getting the car up to the base of the forest and then using the horses for the rest. They are not my horses in particular, my friend in the US (whose house I usually stay at) has three Clydesdale in the ranch and here in the UK there is ranch a twenty minute ride from my house with Shires. So two different types of really strong draft horses that I've ridden personally. I was raised in rural-rural Brazil, horses at one time was the only type of transportation from the farms to the town, specially during flood season, so I have no qualms with leaving the car in a place only to be used for emergencies. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
White76Knight	67. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 5 2011, 8:30 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 5 2011, 8:31 AM EDT "The wood gasifier is a good idea especialy with a pickup because it could be put in the bed and not on a trailer behind it. Its 1930s tech but that means not to difficult to build and maintain." Actually, even on a vehicle that doesn't have a bed, you don't need a trailer for it. The wood gasifier can be installed relatively easily on a simple bracket welded to the vehicle, like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Adler_Diplomat_3_GS_mit_Holzgasgenerator-hinten_rechts.JPG Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crittergetter	68. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 7 2011, 10:30 PM EDT Oh I was talking using what they had in the 30s. I bet they are real small now. The largest part would be the burn chamber. Thats was 2/3s the unit in the 30s also. Unless you used wood pellets or just cut your wood smaller. But the down side to a smaller wood chamber/firebox is you would have to restock more often. Where do they store the needed fuel at also. The older designs the whole system was usually on atrailer for a car with the fuel next to it. Some even used corn husks as fuel. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Sharpie41	69. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 7 2011, 10:56 PM EDT "Actually, even on a vehicle that doesn't have a bed, you don't need a trailer for it. The wood gasifier can be installed relatively easily on a simple bracket welded to the vehicle, like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Adler_Diplomat_3_GS_mit_Holzgasgenerator-hinten_rechts.JPG" WK, where would one get one of these and how much would they be? I would love to buy a crappy car and convert it to this just to see it work Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Continuity_Architect	70. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 3:05 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 3:05 AM EDT I'll probably bike it. The dirt bikes are out of service for now (and too few). The truck is powerful and could move debris, but I wouldn't want to risk it in this area. The narrow suburban roads, high fences, and large population could mean ambush at any moment. So the bike works cause I can get around obstacles without stopping, and move faster than running person. I don't like forsaking the comfort, speed, or cargo capacity, but the size makes it unrealistic if I find myself leaving after SHTF. If I catch wind before the event happens, I would definitely load down the truck and book it out of town. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crittergetter	71. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 7:04 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 7:04 AM EDT Biking is a great option for leaving a city. The horse option is a good option also. But if your planning on taking someone elses animal or gear you better be prepared to fight for it. The owner if still around (&/or left it behind) will probably fight you for it and anybody else that has the same idea as you do. The plus with a horse is you have a set of better ears & eyes for locating danger or others. But animals (horses also) have a tendency to be scared of non-normal (IE Zombies) sights, smells, or sounds. They have their own free will and will turn & run if scared. They will fight you to cross rivers, walk past objects, go up or down hills, and the list is endless. While working on ranches in Wyoming and working the family ranch I've watched horse buck off their owner over a slicker touching them, a car parked at a weird place, they get crazy on anything. I watched a few other riders laugh at my horse go crazy & me getting down to lead him past the so called danger. Then their horses decided they didnt like it either and a small rodeo insued. Funny now but horse arent the bike option but with legs. A horse is mobile and their senses are a bonus. But they can fall on you and break a pelvis, shoulder, ribs, legs, ect, ect. It has happened to people that has been riding since before they could walk. Consider them as a contankerous spouse/kid. They will fight byou over stupid things at the wrong moment. And now you want them to function with scary smalls of blood (a thing most horses are scared of), Zeds, and crazy sounds. They will be scared already so dont expect them to let you ride up to a fight or a killing ground. It takes time and lots of energy to get a horse to trust you and learn the smells arent instant death to them. Sometimes you will never get a horse to get used to it. They might let lead them but the whole time they are on a hair trigger and waiting for something to set them off. So be prepared. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
White76Knight	72. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 8:52 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 8:52 AM EDT "Oh I was talking using what they had in the 30s. I bet they are real small now. The largest part would be the burn chamber. Thats was 2/3s the unit in the 30s also. Unless you used wood pellets or just cut your wood smaller. But the down side to a smaller wood chamber/firebox is you would have to restock more often. Where do they store the needed fuel at also. The older designs the whole system was usually on atrailer for a car with the fuel next to it. Some even used corn husks as fuel." The design I linked in the picture above looks to be about the size of a 55 gallon drum, so I still wouldn't say they are all that small. As for fuel storage, you are right, some models need a trailer for hauling the wood that will be burned, I was only thinking about the gasifier itself. My bad. With that said, though, I think it depends on how far you expect to be driving. If you're going on a long road trip, then yeah you'll need a trailer, but if you're just running into town for a few hours to scavenge for supplies, then you can probably do without one because some of these units will run for up to eight hours on a full load of wood. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
White76Knight	73. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 9:04 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 9:04 AM EDT "WK, where would one get one of these and how much would they be? I would love to buy a crappy car and convert it to this just to see it work" Okay, where do we start. I was GOING TO SAY that you can't really buy these things ready made, you have to build them yourself. FEMA published a document back in '89 that gives an overview of the technology, and shows you how to build your own. That document is linked from this page: http://www.woodgasifiers.com/ There are several other great resources on this page that are also worth looking at, but the FEMA one is under the title: FEMA Wood Gasifier Plans - free plans from Uncle Sam (PDF) I tried to open the PDF in my browser but it wouldn't open, so just right click on the link and save it to your computer and it works fine. Or if you would prefer an HTML version of the same document: http://www.gengas.nu/byggbes/index.shtml Now I also found two other documents while I was looking for the FEMA one. These don't really show you how to build a gasifier yourself, but they go into A LOT more detail on what a gasifier is, how it works, and other applications, including some existing power plants and the like all over the world that currently use this process. These two documents can be found here: http://www.woodgas.net/files/FOA%2072.pdf http://www.woodgas.net/files/World%20bank%20tech%20paper%20296.pdf Now, with all that said, it turns out that I was wrong. There IS actually at least one company, and probably others as well, that sells these things ready made, like so: http://victorygasifier.com/ Hope this helps. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
White76Knight	74. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 9:24 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 9:24 AM EDT "But animals (horses also) have a tendency to be scared of non-normal (IE Zombies) sights, smells, or sounds. They have their own free will and will turn & run if scared. They will fight you to cross rivers, walk past objects, go up or down hills, and the list is endless. While working on ranches in Wyoming and working the family ranch I've watched horse buck off their owner over a slicker touching them, a car parked at a weird place, they get crazy on anything. I watched a few other riders laugh at my horse go crazy & me getting down to lead him past the so called danger. Then their horses decided they didnt like it either and a small rodeo insued. Funny now but horse arent the bike option but with legs. A horse is mobile and their senses are a bonus. But they can fall on you and break a pelvis, shoulder, ribs, legs, ect, ect. It has happened to people that has been riding since before they could walk. Consider them as a contankerous spouse/kid. They will fight byou over stupid things at the wrong moment. And now you want them to function with scary smalls of blood (a thing most horses are scared of), Zeds, and crazy sounds. They will be scared already so dont expect them to let you ride up to a fight or a killing ground." Great info, Critter. This (and my absolute lack of riding experience, but we'll overlook that - LOL) has always been my greatest concern over taking a horse. Sure, horses can be trained to sights, sounds and smells of battle; they can learn not to panic at the blood and the gunfire and whatnot. Horses used during medieval warfare were trained this way, as were horses ridden by civil war era cavalry, etc. The trouble is, how many MODERN people have trained their horses not to be afraid of these things? Very few, of course, as why would they have to? If I couldn't use a dirt bike, or a mountain bike, I'd walk rather than ride a horse. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crittergetter	75. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 12:58 PM EDT Horses training is a lifetime of the horse thing. Plus even veteran horses will get scared at stupid things and the calvary went everywhere in sizable groups for another reason. Horses like people will do things if a group is doing it and they clump together or try tofallow each other. As like people some are fearless so they help get the majority going. But there where always some horses that lagged behind because the horse had issues. In the Civil War some soldiers didnt see certain engagements because they couldnt get the horse to advance. But a horse will smell or hear something before you will so they are a better warning system than another person. But if there is another horse around not in your group they will whinnie to them thus give up your position.lol I would trust them and religh on them but IU know what to be ready for. Now if you never road or only ride on occasion some elses horse then it might not be worth riding. But hey you can still use them as a pack animal or draft animal via a cart or wagon. Plus they will wear out quicker than a person thinks if they dont know hoeses. You could litteraly kill them by not resisting them enough and pushing them to hard. Just thought people needed to know. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
White76Knight	76. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 2:18 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 2:18 PM EDT "Now if you never road or only ride on occasion some elses horse then it might not be worth riding. But hey you can still use them as a pack animal or draft animal via a cart or wagon." Now I had considered going the pack animal or draft animal route, but given the other factors about horses, I decided it might be easier to just use quad bike ATVs. You can lug a fair amount of gear on the front and back racks of an ATV, and you can tow a small trailer if you need to. They could even be equipped with a scaled down version of the wood gasifier if fuel supplies are a concern. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crittergetter	77. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 3:50 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 3:50 PM EDT you could always use home brew also Post reply Do you find this valuable?
crittergetter	78. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 3:55 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 3:55 PM EDT Sorry if short. Im cooking bacon, eggs, and hash browns Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zombiestomper	79. RE: Which vehicles would you use to travel in a zombie apocalypse? Aug 8 2011, 5:33 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 5:45 PM EDT U-Haul Trucks! That's right, the highly versatile, ubiquitous U-Haul Truck! (1) You can find one darn near anywhere. (2) They get regular maintenance. (3) They get returned with 1/2 a tank of fuel. This also makes a U-Haul lot a good source for scavenging Gasoline and Diesel. (4) You can access most U-Haul offices with a crowbar for keys. (5) Heavy enough to run over Zombies, cargo space to scavenge supplies, decent troop carrier, and with slight modifications, an excellent war-wagon for Zombie Hunting, also makes a good evacuation/camper for getting out of town. I also live in Chattanooga, Tennessee, so river traffic is also an option, and one of my alternative planning considerations. First and foremost will be my Ford Explorer, I expect to be rescuing friends for the first few days. But if things get really bad, we have an M-113A3 at my National Guard Unit that just got refitted last year. New track and pads, thermal drivers sight, 11 tons of zombie crushing metal! Just add my trusty zombie-proof cage to the outside and I have the ultimate Zombie proof rescue vehicle! (It doesn't hurt that I'm the only "old-guy" that knows how to operate it!) Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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