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randomknife666
randomknife666
20. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 2:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 2:39 AM EDT
"I was comparing a stock revolver with a stock semi-auto.... Stock verus stock a semi-auto is still faster....Because although the trigger is lighter when a revolver is in single action you don't have to spend the time cocking the trigger on a semi-auto..."
Really, speed is a matter of whose behind the trigger more than what he's shooting. Either way, revolver or semi, I don't want to be on the recieving end of the barrel. Do you find this valuable?    
thomas13mike
thomas13mike
21. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 3:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 3:05 AM EDT
"Really, speed is a matter of whose behind the trigger more than what he's shooting. Either way, revolver or semi, I don't want to be on the recieving end of the barrel."
True enough a good shooter can make any gun faster. A faster gun will make a good shooter that much better as well. And for damn sure on the latter... Do you find this valuable?    
Filadog
Filadog
22. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 6:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 6:42 AM EDT
". You can go to the range weekly to practice failure-to-fire drills and switching off the safety on your 1911, or you can buy a wheelgun so that your ftf drill is simply pulling the trigger again and there is no safety other than common sense.

Need more convincing? I can load one of my .357 rounds in a levergun and magically transform the same round into one that does 1800 fps. AFAIK, you can't make, say, 9x19 do anything similar."
Many semi auto pistols now days don't have a safety either...just pull the trigger to shoot it and the first shot will be double action just like your revolver...you just will have a lot more of them to shoot probably

I can put 9mm in my Mini Uzi and shoot them out at about 15 rds a second....can a .357 mag. rifle do anything similar ? Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
23. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 9:28 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 9:28 AM EDT
"I was comparing a stock revolver with a stock semi-auto.... Stock verus stock a semi-auto is still faster....Because although the trigger is lighter when a revolver is in single action you don't have to spend the time cocking the trigger on a semi-auto..."
Ever heard of fanning? Or the updated version of using your thumb at eye level? They are really comparable with speed and accuracy, its truly personal preference Do you find this valuable?    
2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
24. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 10:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 10:21 AM EDT
I think most revolver "pros" are really played up by wheelgun fans, such as reliability. I don't believe revolvers have such a massive advantage in reliability over automatics that it outweighs all other factors. Good quality autoloaders now are extremely reliable, to the point where it's almost ridiculous.

Ease of use? To a degree, yes. But to think you don't have to practice to be proficient with a revolver is silly. Reloading is an even MORE important skill to have when you start out with far less rounds than most common autos and reloading a wheelgun quickly takes practice and speedloaders (I hope you actually own speedloaders!). The fact that you don't "need" speedloaders to use a revolver is sometimes brought up, but I wouldn't leave home without one if I carried a revolver for self defense. Fumbling with loose ammo is ok for the range, not so much in a shootout.

Power is another "advantage" you sometimes hear about, but I don't see the truth in that unless you're walking around with a .44 Magnum or something similar. .357 Mag is a nice round but I don't know anyone who feels undergunned packing a .45ACP or a 10mm or .357SIG... Autoloaders can pack a punch too. And .38 Special is nothing to write home about. Do you find this valuable?    
thomas13mike
thomas13mike
25. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 10:49 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 10:49 AM EDT
"Ever heard of fanning? Or the updated version of using your thumb at eye level? They are really comparable with speed and accuracy, its truly personal preference "
And how many that own revolvers actually know what the term fanning means? Much less how to do it. Granted I will agree in the end it is a personal preference when it comes down to it. Its what you're most comfortable with. That's what I tell people I teach a .44 looks beautiful but if it hurts or scares you to shoot it you won't ever practice. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
26. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 11:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 11:16 AM EDT
"And how many that own revolvers actually know what the term fanning means? Much less how to do it. Granted I will agree in the end it is a personal preference when it comes down to it. Its what you're most comfortable with. That's what I tell people I teach a .44 looks beautiful but if it hurts or scares you to shoot it you won't ever practice. "
I'm sure many know what it means, maybe not how to do it, but all you need is a six shooter and some ammo to practice it Do you find this valuable?    
thomas13mike
thomas13mike
27. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 12:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 12:37 PM EDT
"I'm sure many know what it means, maybe not how to do it, but all you need is a six shooter and some ammo to practice it"
This is true I need to practice that haven't had anyone call me out for a showdown at high noon in awhile. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
28. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 2:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 2:07 PM EDT
"This is true I need to practice that haven't had anyone call me out for a showdown at high noon in awhile."
When was the last time?....

It would be fun to try, may have to sometime Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
29. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 2:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 2:44 PM EDT
Personally, I'd carry a semiauto. While rate of fire can be about the same, with practice, the semiauto wins out on overall capacity alone. Some semiautos carry 10-15 rounds or more (even 30 rounds in smaller calibers) in the mag. There's no revolver that comes close to that. In a modern day context, against one or two muggers or home invaders, there's not much that I can do with 20 rounds that I couldn't do with 6, but in a Z-Poc (if the movies are to be believed) you may find yourself cornered by targets in the dozens.

As 2WS mentioned, revolvers may have had a reliability advantage in the past but a good semiauto is every bit as reliable as a revolver these days. Just to be sure, though, I plan to carry a revolver as a backup gun, chambered in the same round as my semi for ease of logistics. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
30. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 3:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 3:31 PM EDT
"Personally, I'd carry a semiauto. While rate of fire can be about the same, with practice, the semiauto wins out on overall capacity alone. Some semiautos carry 10-15 rounds or more (even 30 rounds in smaller calibers) in the mag. There's no revolver that comes close to that. In a modern day context, against one or two muggers or home invaders, there's not much that I can do with 20 rounds that I couldn't do with 6, but in a Z-Poc (if the movies are to be believed) you may find yourself cornered by targets in the dozens.

As 2WS mentioned, revolvers may have had a reliability advantage in the past but a good semiauto is every bit as reliable as a revolver these days. Just to be sure, though, I plan to carry a revolver as a backup gun, chambered in the same round as my semi for ease of logistics. "
Capacity isn't really an argument in Canada, there are revolvers that have 8-10 in the cylinder

That is unless you can covert the magazine Do you find this valuable?    
keyboard_komando
keyboard_komando
31. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 3:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 3:49 PM EDT
the only REAL problem that an semiauto has over a revolver is that it CAN jam. with enough training you can overcome that. so in a zombie world thats not really an issue since we should train with our weapons. but for those who havent a revolver may be the way to go.

aside from that your primary weapon should be a rifle(or any long gun). handguns are made for fighting your way back to your rifle Do you find this valuable?    
thomas13mike
thomas13mike
32. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 4:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 4:21 PM EDT
"When was the last time?....

It would be fun to try, may have to sometime"
I'm trying to recall probably late 19th early 20th century..But things may be different there in Canada.. Thats gone out of style even here in Texas. But it does always decide who the faster gun is doesn't. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
33. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 5:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 5:18 PM EDT
"I'm trying to recall probably late 19th early 20th century..But things may be different there in Canada.. Thats gone out of style even here in Texas. But it does always decide who the faster gun is doesn't. "
Haha yeah, ever seen the movie gunless? Do you find this valuable?    
thomas13mike
thomas13mike
34. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 5:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 5:25 PM EDT
"Haha yeah, ever seen the movie gunless?"
Can't say that I have...Sounds like a short movie... Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
35. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 5:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 5:48 PM EDT
"Can't say that I have...Sounds like a short movie..."
Its funny as hell, it was directed by the same guy who did passchendale.
why do you say that it sounds like a short movie?
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White76Knight
White76Knight
36. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 6:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 6:01 PM EDT
"That is unless you can covert the magazine"
LOL - Well yeah, obviously that's what I had in mind. Didn't I say that? No? D'oh! Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
37. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 6:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 6:02 PM EDT
"Its funny as hell, it was directed by the same guy who did passchendale.
why do you say that it sounds like a short movie?
"
LOL - Probably because anyone gunless would usually end up lifeless pretty quick, thus making for a short movie. Do you find this valuable?    
Abu_Fulan
Abu_Fulan
38. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 6:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 6:02 PM EDT
Sorry to be that guy, but I have to bring women into the mix here. I've read some good comments in this thread from proponents of semi autos, and I respect y'all's position. Gotta point out, though, the one niche where revolvers are king: if a family chooses a handgun as their sole HD weapon.

One of the main reasons I chose a revolver is that at the time it was to be my (our) only gun, and I wanted something my wife could use also. She isn't able to rack the slide on most semi autos and dislikes guns in general -- it takes a lot of work for me to get her to go to the range once a year. Knowing that she will never "train" with any gun I buy, I bought something with no safety, slide lock, or anything else to confuse her. God forbid she ever has to use that gun, she can just point it and use both hands to pull the trigger. Can't limp wrist this gun, and she'll never have to pull a slide back to clear a stoppage.

Thus, I could see a revolver being a legitimate best option for some homes with women and older children, depending on their willingness to learn about/train with firearms. Personally, now that I have a weapon I know my wife can use, I've felt more comfortable getting into some other kinds of firearms that I'm interested in. Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
39. RE: Pistol vs. Revolver
Jul 18 2011, 6:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2011, 6:13 PM EDT
"Thus, I could see a revolver being a legitimate best option for some homes with women and older children, depending on their willingness to learn about/train with firearms. Personally, now that I have a weapon I know my wife can use, I've felt more comfortable getting into some other kinds of firearms that I'm interested in. "
I'm glad you were able to get some other guns that you're interested in as well but, with all due respect, I've always felt that guns should not be allowed to live in homes with people who have no "willingness to learn about/train with" them. This applies, of course, only to the adult members of a household; the willingness of children is irrelevant as they should not be allowed to handle guns at all until they are old enough to be properly instructed.

You say that your wife can use the revolver, in that it has no safety, slide lock, or anything else to confuse her, and that's good I guess, but if she's not willing to put any more effort into learning how to properly use a gun than that, I would again respectfully suggest that she has no business operating a gun to begin with, INCLUDING the revolver. Again meaning no ill towards her, but she would be better served, for her own sake as well as that of everyone else in the house, to leave home defense in the hands of someone with more stomach for it. Do you find this valuable?    
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