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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Jul 20 2011, 2:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2011, 2:46 PM EDT
Now i'm far from being a doomsayer, but I just found out that Swine Flu was gentically engineered.
It's patented.
http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20090010962/claims.html

I think this is relevant to this site, as many people seem to think that the most likely cause of a zombie outbreak would be a man-made virus. There are many who would say that swine flu was released deliberately to cause a pandemic and make billions from the vaccine.

Who knows what viruses these b*stards are capable of making and willing to inflict on the public? I'm not saying they did, but i'm sure as hell very open to that possibility.
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
1. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Jul 20 2011, 2:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2011, 2:57 PM EDT
This doesn't bother me in the least bit, biotech firms are always studying viruses in secure laboratories to combat them. To have it copyrighted only makes sense. It ensures "researcher A" can't legally sell out the company's research and as a copyrighted product it enjoys certain legal protection namely the ability to prosecute anyone outside of the company looking to re-create their own strain of the virus. 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Markthegenius
Markthegenius
2. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Jul 20 2011, 3:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2011, 3:33 PM EDT
But doesn't the fact that there was a worldwide pandemic show that it wasn't contained n a "secure laboratory"?
How did they know that the virus wouldn't mutate beyond what the vaccine could cure, just like the "superbugs" found in UK hospitals, which have evolved to cope with nearly all means to eradicate them.
Though i agree it makes sense to patent such work, from the researchers point of view. It's also means that it must be public knowledge if it is patented. It makes me wonder why nobody was held accountable for all the swine flu deaths and illnesses, and why the media told everybody that it originated from pigs in mexico?
It's called swine flu because it was tested on pig cells. I'd love to know how it got out of the secure environment...
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humanroach
humanroach
3. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Jul 20 2011, 4:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2011, 4:17 PM EDT
i was reading B.S. like this a couple years ago when the swine flu hit. some tin-foil-hat wearing people thought it was a conspiracy to kill us all. that article is B.S. another strain of the swine flu came out in the 70s, dont believe everything you read on the web

EDIT: i just NOW finished looking over the link. sorry, thought it was a conspiracy website. now that i have seen it ALL i have to agree with vance. they are just pantenting their research, dont misconstrue this information as it was a created virus. these things happen in nature all the time. they are just protecting the investment into the research, cause billionaires invest in this sort of thing so they can sell vaccines and the research info too
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
4. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Jul 20 2011, 4:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2011, 4:55 PM EDT
Sorry, but this is faulty cause and effect.

A quick Wikipedia search on swine influenza shows outbreaks in both animals and humans on these dates:

1918 (H)
1976 (H/A)
1988 (H/A)
1998 (A)
2007 (A)
2009 (H)
2010 (A)

Now, look at the filing date: 2005. There are plenty of swine flu outbreaks in the wild well before this patent. It costs the British pig farmers £65 million every year.

But look at the claims #5 and #30. Tumour antigens. They are looking at using this virus to make cancer medicine.

This is a harmless thing. Time would be better spent looking for patents on virii that alter the human metabolism, cell amino acid exchanges or the higher brain functions.
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TurnAndBurn
TurnAndBurn
5. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Jul 20 2011, 7:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 20 2011, 7:04 PM EDT
There are many many superbugs created in labs because it allows them to study things such as virulence and mutations in a controlled setting so that when something similar is encountered in the wild they at least have some idea what is going on ahead of time. As for patents it doesn't just protect the virus itself but is also a financial security allowing them to seize rights for vaccines and other medications once they are created even if created by another firm. Do you find this valuable?    
vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
6. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 3 2011, 12:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2011, 12:10 PM EDT
Swine flu hasn't turned anyone into a zombie, though.
Maybe if it mutates...
I do think it will be manmade virus, but I don't think it's this. And I think it's just patenting their research, but I might be mistaken. This could be something, but...I doubt it.
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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
7. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 3 2011, 3:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2011, 3:12 PM EDT
I'm not suggesting that swine flu is a potential zombie virus. I think the Z-Poc is incredibly unlikely to happen.
All I'm saying is that we have proof that genetically engineered viruses can affect masses of people all over the world. This has the potential to cause mass extinction.
I'm not saying it will, but it could.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
8. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 3 2011, 4:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2011, 4:38 PM EDT
First off, my tin foil hat is made by Lock & Co of St James St, London (by appointment H.R.H. THE PRINCE OF WALES) That's to say I'm a card carrying member of the conspiracy nut, loony fringe, however. . .

Let me tell you a story;

An uncle by marriage's grandfather was a pharmacist in a dreary north-eastern British town. When the WWI began he was conscripted into the army. As he was a pharmacist he wasn't sent to the front but to the British Government's chemical weapons facility called Porton Down;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down
Where he served his country according to his talents. When the war was over he wasn't demobed (demobilised) but given a brevet rank of captain and kept on reserve. This meant he had to go and work at Porton Down for six weeks twice a year to draw a captains pay (all year)
The great war ended in 1918 so in 1920 this pharmacist had done 3 or 4 stints at 'The Lab' when he came home, didn't tell anyone, just let himself into the front shop, mixed himself a quietly lethal cocktail and destroyed himself.

The thing that's hardest to explain here is in industrial north east Britain after the first world war there were no environmental tree hugging liberals. The people were unbelievably pragmatic if not harsh! The town in question (where I was born) is the home of Andy Capp the cartoon character, hard drinking, wife beating ne'er-do-well. It is not Bloomsbury or Greenwich Village N.Y.

So whatever Mr Atkinson had seen (or done?) on his last job at 'the Lab' upset him so much he couldn't live with himself. . .

That was in 1920, anyone here think things have gotten better since then?
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
9. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 3 2011, 6:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2011, 6:58 PM EDT
All other evidence and posts notwithstanding, man-made flu that doesn't really do much more than make you miserable for a week does not mean we will get a man-made zombie virus that destroys worlds. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Markthegenius
Markthegenius
10. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 6 2011, 1:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2011, 1:48 PM EDT
You know that Porton Down is where AIDs is said to have come from?

The "Green Monkey Disease" Thing was a cover up. Everyone i've asked in my parents generation say it was common knowledge at the time.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
11. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 6 2011, 3:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2011, 3:14 PM EDT
"You know that Porton Down is where AIDs is said to have come from?

The "Green Monkey Disease" Thing was a cover up. Everyone i've asked in my parents generation say it was common knowledge at the time."
I've heard as many theories for the origin of AIDS as I have about Porton Down but I incline to Richard Preston's in his book 'the Hot Zone' where a lab animal dealer in Entebbe, Uganda used an island in Lake Victoria to dump any sick simians that arrived at his facility. This meant that sick animals from all over the world were stuck together and the island was at the vector point on the Kinshasa Highway that the disease travelled in both directions from.

Porton Down however was implicated in the only proven and documented Chem-trails event, that was in 1972 if I recall correctly. The British Ministry of defence did extensive spraying and testing over south east England of compounds that originated at P.D. to 'test the likelihood of the Soviets using such a system' It was reported in the Guardian newspaper (UK) a couple of years ago when the papers were declassified on the 25 year rule. The whole Chem-trails theory is for me, a complete crock of bull-pucky not withstanding the British government's minions actually went and did it (and said they did!)
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
12. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 6 2011, 3:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2011, 3:20 PM EDT
"You know that Porton Down is where AIDs is said to have come from?

The "Green Monkey Disease" Thing was a cover up. Everyone i've asked in my parents generation say it was common knowledge at the time."
Wasn't it also once common knowledge that traveling above 25 miles per hour would result in death by suffocation and that black people were inhuman animals?
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
13. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 6 2011, 3:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2011, 4:00 PM EDT
"Wasn't it also once common knowledge that traveling above 25 miles per hour would result in death by suffocation and that black people were inhuman animals?"
Ooh, you mean common knowledge like Asbestos is a wonder material. pesticides will solve the world's food problems and more roads is the answer to traffic congestion, common knowledge?
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nate121
nate121
14. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 6 2011, 4:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2011, 4:29 PM EDT
"I'm not suggesting that swine flu is a potential zombie virus. I think the Z-Poc is incredibly unlikely to happen.
All I'm saying is that we have proof that genetically engineered viruses can affect masses of people all over the world. This has the potential to cause mass extinction.
I'm not saying it will, but it could."
just because they have a patent does not mean they made it, there are a lot of human genes that are patented also
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
15. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 8 2011, 10:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 10:47 AM EDT
"Ooh, you mean common knowledge like Asbestos is a wonder material. pesticides will solve the world's food problems and more roads is the answer to traffic congestion, common knowledge?
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Exactly.

Saying "it was common knowledge in the previous generation" means nothing when this "common knowledge" was often wrong and potentially dangerous to believe.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
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Aug 8 2011, 11:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 11:24 AM EDT
"Exactly.

Saying "it was common knowledge in the previous generation" means nothing when this "common knowledge" was often wrong and potentially dangerous to believe."
Unfortunately your examples of 'common knowledge' can be ascribed to ignorance and popular prejudice, albeit capitalized upon. Where as my examples were deliberate deception, suppressing the real facts, inflating data that experts in the field knew to be insufficient and misleading the population for political gain. All by vested interests that have proved themselves untrustworthy time after time.

Markthegenius's parents generation have ample reason to be sceptical. Ergo, the increasingly common knowledge is that any 'official explanations' is most likely horses**t for covering someone's scam.
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
17. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 8 2011, 11:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 11:55 AM EDT
"Unfortunately your examples of 'common knowledge' can be ascribed to ignorance and popular prejudice, albeit capitalized upon. Where as my examples were deliberate deception, suppressing the real facts, inflating data that experts in the field knew to be insufficient and misleading the population for political gain. All by vested interests that have proved themselves untrustworthy time after time.

Markthegenius's parents generation have ample reason to be sceptical. Ergo, the increasingly common knowledge is that any 'official explanations' is most likely horses**t for covering someone's scam.
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Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
18. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 8 2011, 12:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 12:34 PM EDT
"Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar."
That expression doesn't do much to advance your argument : D given a cigar is chemical child abuse by slow motion suicide bombers who's chief desire is to give us all lung cancer because they have been brainwashed by tobacco industry minions.
Or an expression of personal liberty against health Nazis who are using fudged data for a N.W.O. thought-crime, police state and to advance drugs like Champix (varenicline) to make people psychotic (for the usual tinfoil-hat reasons) . . .

Lol, This is the 21st, it's never going to be' just a cigar' again mate.
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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
19. RE: Sh*t me...Bio-engineered virus....?!?!
Aug 8 2011, 2:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 2:41 PM EDT
Sorry but i have to say, once again, my screen is turning brown.
Things are being said that are an affront to logic.

Today it is "common knowledge" that the sun is at the centre of our solar system. Don't knock the concept of "common knowledge" by default. That is all i have to say on the matter.
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