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vampirejediknight |
Good Loudouts
Jul 23 2011, 8:00 PM EDT
I know enough (I think) about weapon individualy, but I'm not sue what weapons make a good combo. Example, I love, or think I might although I don't really have experience with them, both the SKS and Five-Seven, but would they work well together. Or maybe the AR-15 and the 1911 What about melee. Would a hatchet go weel with either combo. What are some other good combos and why. Would SKS and 1911 or AR-15 and Five-Seven be better? Tell me what you think. (These are just the first couple combos I thought of. Do you find this valuable? |
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randomknife666 |
1. RE: Good Loadouts*
Jul 23 2011, 8:39 PM EDT
"I know enough (I think) about weapon individualy, but I'm not sue what weapons make a good combo.Err, really, its an entirely personal choice. Its best to try out each combination yourself, and see how you like it, no two people are going to be exactly the same. (not even twins.) Do you find this valuable? |
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vampirejediknight |
2. RE: Good Loadouts*
Jul 23 2011, 10:10 PM EDT
Yes, but there are some strategic advantages and disadvantages to each combination.
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toxic_shock |
3. RE: Good Loadouts*
Jul 23 2011, 10:44 PM EDT
"Yes, but there are some strategic advantages and disadvantages to each combination."I don't know what they would be. Any decent semi auto can be combined with any decent handgun and make a decent loadout. This isn't Black Ops. My loadout consists of a 1911 and SKS. They don't have much to do with each other, except one is a rifle and the other is a handgun. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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timberrattler |
5. RE: Good Loadouts*
Jul 24 2011, 8:59 AM EDT
"The important thing to ask yourself is does your SKS go with your boots? And does your 1911 match your shirt. If they don't? Well, then won't you look silly. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Jahadaz |
6. RE: Good Loadouts*
Jul 24 2011, 1:56 PM EDT
"The important thing to ask yourself is does your SKS go with your boots? And does your 1911 match your shirt. If they don't? Well, then won't you look silly.""Fashion follows function" is the catch phrase for poor people ;) Do you find this valuable? |
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StangDemon |
7. RE: Good Loudouts
Jul 24 2011, 10:10 PM EDT
I would choose almost any 9mm pistol, preferably a Beretta M9 or HK USP 9MM. many people would choose a 1911 because of its rliability. with a 9mm, you can squeeze off 3 to 5 fast accurate rounds, with a .45 most people (unless trained otherwise) cannot do that. its a lot of unneccesary power. with maybe a .223 caliber rifle. annything over a .308 or 30-30 would just be stupid because they are heavy, ammo may be scarce, they make wayy too much noise, and it's legitimately unneeded firepower. remember, you're shooting a speeding bullet through soft, decroted flesh that is much softer and its easier to break through the bones. you dont need to blow an enormous hole in their head, just a big enough one to put 'em down, and keep 'em down
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SasquatchJim |
8. RE: Good Loudouts
Jul 25 2011, 10:49 AM EDT
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Stang, keep in mind that you will be facing a variety of other threats as well. Raiders (possibly wearing body armor), big game (possibly infected), etc.Also, you say a .45 is unnecessary. Well, to me, squeezing off 3-5 9mm rounds is even more unnecessary, especially if I can get the job done with one .45 Do you find this valuable? |
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StangDemon |
9. RE: Good Loudouts
Jul 25 2011, 4:55 PM EDT
ok, true on the raiders. i thought the question was just about killing zed. by all means i would still have higher caliber weaponry for raiders likely wearing some armor. and not necessarily 3 to 5 rounds at one, but say a group of 3, 4, or 5. pop off a few quick rounds and youre good. im not saying you cant be accurate with a .45 a lot of people on this site are military or have had training and are good with guns. but for someone whos been to the range 2 or 3 times in their life, a .45 is not optimal for killing zombies for them. they both have their advantages, im not disputing that at all, hell i like both equally. but when you dont need the stopping power, and accuracy/quickness is life or death, I'd say the 9mil is better
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SasquatchJim |
10. RE: Good Loudouts
Jul 25 2011, 8:29 PM EDT
"ok, true on the raiders. i thought the question was just about killing zed. by all means i would still have higher caliber weaponry for raiders likely wearing some armor. and not necessarily 3 to 5 rounds at one, but say a group of 3, 4, or 5. pop off a few quick rounds and youre good. im not saying you cant be accurate with a .45 a lot of people on this site are military or have had training and are good with guns. but for someone whos been to the range 2 or 3 times in their life, a .45 is not optimal for killing zombies for them. they both have their advantages, im not disputing that at all, hell i like both equally. but when you dont need the stopping power, and accuracy/quickness is life or death, I'd say the 9mil is better"Well, to be fair, I think carrying separate weapons for zombies and raiders would be kinda heavy and hard to lug around. I'd rather have something that can deal effectively with both in one package. Agreed, they both have their pros and cons. But, I do believe that proper practice and training will be helpful no matter what your weapon is. Carrying any weapon is pointless if you can't hit with it. Whatever people decide on: 9mm, .45, .357/.38, whatever, it's fine by me as long as they practice and get good with it. Do you find this valuable? |
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VagabondVance |
11. RE: Good Loudouts
Jul 25 2011, 9:29 PM EDT
"Whatever people decide on: 9mm, .45, .357/.38, whatever, it's fine by me as long as they practice and get good with it."Except spitballs. Do you find this valuable? |
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StangDemon |
12. RE: Good Loudouts
Jul 25 2011, 11:19 PM EDT
i agree with you entirely. i just answered to this post as if it was for ONLY killing zombies. I didnt answer it all with the intent of addressing raiders. I meant specifically for zed
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randomknife666 |
13. RE: Good Loadouts**
Jul 26 2011, 12:17 AM EDT
"i agree with you entirely. i just answered to this post as if it was for ONLY killing zombies. I didnt answer it all with the intent of addressing raiders. I meant specifically for zed"In the case of only zeds, 22LR, semi-automatic. Can carry a few thousand rounds with no trouble whatsoever, and even if the first bullet doesnt finish the job, you got a **** ton more to finish it. My personal loadout ATM, would be a 30-30. No sidearm, since no one owns a handgun yet (Soon enough, soon enough...) I may also carry a 12 gauge, and 2 dozen shells, in case I need more close range firepower. In about 3 or four weeks, an SKS, and possibly a handgun (will be attending at a shooting range every wednsday starting this wednsday, so we may get the opportunity to get a handgun.). Which calibre is undecided, since I havent had a chance to try anything but a 9mm (American friends Berretta 92). Do you find this valuable? |
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LJ126 |
14. RE: Good *Weapon* Loadouts
Jul 26 2011, 1:32 AM EDT
Honestly, I think the minimum for what could be considered a good, complete weapons loadout consists of a full-caliber long gun, a medium-sized (concealable) handgun chambered in a defensive caliber, a 4"-6" fixed blade knife, a decent flashlight and a good multi-tool of some kind. This is pretty loose in terms of definition - and intentionally so - so that it may be tailored to meet the zombie survivalist's individual physical characteristics (like size, strength, level of ability or disability), budget, and so that it can be tailored to match the individual's environment.For example, I'm a large and sturdy adult male, in a very hot, flat region of Southern Texas. A weapons loadout for me will likely not be appropriate for a skinny 5'0" female in Kentucky's Appalachians, nor will either of these be the same as someone in Alaskan bear country. What about someone in an urban environment? Their needs will also differ. Your weapons should match your personal limitations and should be effective in your chosen environment. Another concern in financial capacity. Once a person's budget is considered things start to become more complicated. The more money someone has available to spend on survival gear, the bigger their available selection becomes. If you're a dirt poor college student, single parent, or just over-extended on your bills, you probably aren't able to rush out and spend a "G+" on the handgun of your dreams. It makes sense to get what you can afford, and upgrade as finances allow. Note that I didn't even touch the issue of melee weapons; this is because I don't feel that a melee weapon is necessary component to a good entry-level loadout. Lots of things can be substituted for this role - in a pinch, your knife can be pretty handy for up-close defensive encounters, or if you're toting a D-cell Maglite you've already got a very effective club. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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timberrattler |
15. RE: Good *Weapon* Loadouts
Jul 26 2011, 5:52 AM EDT
This^.It doesn't get any more practical or logical than this. Do you find this valuable? |
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Jahadaz |
16. RE: Good *Weapon* Loadouts
Jul 26 2011, 9:38 AM EDT
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"Another concern in financial capacity. Once a person's budget is considered things start to become more complicated. The more money someone has available to spend on survival gear, the bigger their available selection becomes. If you're a dirt poor college student, single parent, or just over-extended on your bills, you probably aren't able to rush out and spend a "G+" on the handgun of your dreams. It makes sense to get what you can afford, and upgrade as finances allow.When it comes to gear LJ nailed it on the head with this one. I know VERY few people with the means to buy whatever they want. With that being said I find myself constantly upgrading as more funds become available. It may not look cool to go to the range with a 500$ gun and mismatched clothing/gear. But when you put 50 out of 50 in the head in a matter of seconds those snobby range people tend to stop snickering. Do you find this valuable? |
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vampirejediknight |
17. RE: Good *Weapon* Loadouts
Jul 26 2011, 2:55 PM EDT
Well, LJ126, I can't really argue.
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vampirejediknight |
18. RE: Good *Weapon* Loadouts
Jul 26 2011, 2:56 PM EDT
"When it comes to gear LJ nailed it on the head with this one. I know VERY few people with the means to buy whatever they want.You hit on head yourself, pretty much. Do you find this valuable? |
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John_234 |
19. RE: Good Loudouts
Jul 26 2011, 9:56 PM EDT
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The difference between picking a loadout for real life and for video games; in video games, there's a level playing field. People have the same health, running speed, jump height and weapons skill. Nothing matters except stats. That's not real life, is it?Like LJ said it's all individual. A lot of people find that a solid rifle plus a dependable handgun work well as their meat and potatoes work tools. Others may not even carry a pistol because the weight of sidearm, plus ammo, plus cleaning components is too much hassle when a single rifle or shotgun is going to be sufficient. Heck, a friend of mine was going to pack a Serbu Super Shorty. Yes, the pistol-like, California legal SBS shotgun in disguise. He didn't plan on fighting, doing much except running, and packing very light. He was going to use the Serbu because it beat a big-bore wheel gun for blowing open a lock or killing a large animal given the necessity. It doesn't make much sense to how I do things, but it certainly works for him. I'm waffling between a .308 autoloader rifle like an M1A with or a shotgun of some kind, personally. I have yet to solidify bugout method in such a diverse region. EDIT: Apparently I got that wrong. It was Serbu plus a SUB-2000, or if that failed a normal 9mm pistol. Do you find this valuable? |