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Zombot |
Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 3 2011, 3:50 AM EDT
I searched and the only thing that seemed close was a page that no longer exists, so here's my thread.Has anyone thought of actually putting together a Survival School, with the emphasis on fighting zombies? Included could be general disaster survival type stuff, ideal BOB items, basic stealth, basic weapons training, fitness routines, and ideal BO/BI locations (I.e. Wal-Mart will kill you, schools are bad, etc.) It's something that my roommates and I discussed, and I wonder what you guys think. Would it be viable? Worthwhile? Would enough people go through it to make it financially plausible? etc. Any and all thoughts are welcome. Do you find this valuable? |
MagentaMarauder |
1. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 6 2011, 11:42 PM EDT
No, but it sounds fun and interesting.
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PaganArcher |
2. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 6 2011, 11:53 PM EDT
"I searched and the only thing that seemed close was a page that no longer exists, so here's my thread.The problems here are the lack of land, international userbase, and not many would hold the qualifications needed to legally teach such courses. While it is a good thought, it's highly unlikely. Do you find this valuable? |
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scorpio33 |
3. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 7 2011, 1:11 AM EDT
that would be awesome. But the goverments would say its a waste of time and money because zombies aren't real. but they will look like idiots when zombies rise and the world is being killedDo you find this valuable? |
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Zombot |
4. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 7 2011, 1:20 AM EDT
Being in the military, I can acquire a VA business loan without (I'm hoping) too much effort. From what I understand, it isn't overly difficult to get.With regards to land, the cheapest is found in the Mid-West, preferably north of Tornado Alley (Southern Illinois-ish?). Also, people from either coast would have less distance to travel to reach it. As for qualifications to legally teach, I wasn't aware of such a thing. Since it's not an accredited college, what sort of qual/certification would someone have to have to legally teach basic combat, evasion, etc.? I'm not being facetious, by any means, just laying out that some points I have an idea for, but others I'd not considered and am not sure about. For MM, thanks! :) If I do get something going, I'll let you know. For S33, I personally don't put much stock in what most of the govt thinks about such things. As long as I did everything legally, they couldn't exactly stop me. Additional thought for it, it wouldn't -just- focus on zombie survival, but on survival in general, with the addition of zombie survival being its specialty... Thanks for all the feedback so far! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
brandon_a_boyer |
5. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 7 2011, 2:19 AM EDT
It's a terrible idea all around really.
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Rogue_Wraith |
6. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 7 2011, 2:24 AM EDT
"With regards to land, the cheapest is found in the Mid-West, preferably north of Tornado Alley (Southern Illinois-ish?). Also, people from either coast would have less distance to travel to reach it."Not personally sure, but I have a friend who's from Illinois and they have some of the countries worst gun laws. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
LJ126 |
7. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 7 2011, 3:06 AM EDT
"Has anyone thought of actually putting together a Survival School, with the emphasis on fighting zombies? Included could be general disaster survival type stuff, ideal BOB items, basic stealth, basic weapons training, fitness routines, and ideal BO/BI locations (I.e. Wal-Mart will kill you, schools are bad, etc.) It's something that my roommates and I discussed, and I wonder what you guys think."In my opinion, the idea of starting a "boot camp" like school is unrealistic. Possible, yes, but not really viable at all. First of all, you need everything required to start a business - which when you boil it down, comes down to money. Gotta have land, insurance, whatever local level business licensing, insurance, etc. Also gotta have qualified instructors to teach a structured curriculum, as well as sports trainers to teach, tailor and oversee PT for each individual in the camp. If the school taught weapons, the insurance expense just jumped big time, and property considerations also change quite a bit. While I think it would be a lot of fun, it's just not viable. Even if someone did set something like this up, all of the above considerations would make the enrollment costs so high that few people would have the money to pay to attend the camp. A much more plausible sort of thing is if a small group of friends decided to learn as much about all of the topics we discuss here at the site (as well as other survival-oriented websites) and apply it on some federal park lands on their own. The group could all attend first aid classes together, enroll in firearms training or CCW classes together, shop for gear and build their BOB's together, and maybe even start a local club to make new friends interested in the same ideas. This is FAR more plausible, IMO. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
PedroAsani |
8. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 7 2011, 6:07 AM EDT
All this would be is a shooting range, or a paintball field.There is more to surviving the zombie apocalypse than guns. You need to know about agriculture, food preservation, waste management, drilling for water, mechanics, and basic primers on physics, biology and chemistry would be a big help. Being taught how to hit zombies in the head is just target shooting. Do you find this valuable? |
cyrano222 |
9. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 7 2011, 8:51 AM EDT
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Parris Island and Camp LeJeune have a decent program that would be the good start with some other Infantry schools tacted on througout your career.If you dont want to go that extreme, there are plenty of good civilian schools available for the skills you would need. I have personally taken classes at the SIG academy and I can say they are an outstanding for civilians, military or police to sharpen their skills. There are plenty of outdoors and survival oriented schools that are reasonable. Starting a niche school like that is a good way to throw away good money from a decent VA loan. Edited for spelling hung over 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Zombot |
10. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 7 2011, 7:15 PM EDT
@LJ126, thanks for the feedback! I definitely see your point. Insurance is one thing I hadn't thought much about, but with that in mind, I'm thinking that anyone can learn basic firearms -at- a shooting range, so I wouldn't necessarily have to cover those.@PedroA, I'm thinking a bit differently than that. There are a lot of things normal people don't know, and I think the school would focus on any emergency survival, to include BOBs, evasion, traps (for humans, or for food), etc. And I think there are very few schools that teach basic melee weapon handling to any degree without taking years of schooling. I think that's the direction I want to take it. "You need to know about agriculture, food preservation, waste management, drilling for water, mechanics, and basic primers on physics, biology and chemistry would be a big help." - PedroAsani This is a lot more what I'm thinking of. I was blown away that many of my fellow military friends don't even know that old dynamite 'sweats' and becomes unstable as it breaks down into nitro glycerin. Things like that i think would be worth teaching, or at least including in a survival handbook of sorts. Something to at least give people a tip of the iceberg to things they might find themselves encountering during a massive emergency/apocalypse of any sort. @Cyrano, I did some research and saw that there are indeed many survival schools out there. While most focus on the food/shelter/water concept, which is a great start, there are few that cover any form of combat training, especially for civilians. I understand that it'd be a difficult, with the myriad schools there are already, but I'm thinking that if I can make it different enough, better, than perhaps that niche would be a good thing. "If you're prepared for zombies, you're ready for anything." -CDC Do you find this valuable? |
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stoner1396 |
11. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 9 2011, 12:20 AM EDT
dude i think it would be an amazing idea but dont make it public it would attract a lot of media and stuff. if u could convince people to pool in money and everything else u might need. also have different "grades" like beginner, novice, journeyman, and ,expert. or somthing similar.1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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stoner1396 |
12. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 9 2011, 12:22 AM EDT
not really
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Zombot |
13. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 9 2011, 1:04 AM EDT
Correct me if I'm wrong, since tone doesn't always translate well in words, but I'm sensing sarcasm. If so, I appreciate your constructive criticism. It means a lot to me.
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brandon_a_boyer |
14. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 9 2011, 1:16 AM EDT
"Correct me if I'm wrong, since tone doesn't always translate well in words, but I'm sensing sarcasm. If so, I appreciate your constructive criticism. It means a lot to me."The Idea is impractical if anything. Teaching those sorts of survival skills costs money. Which the majority of the members of this website do not have. Training people takes capital, which we don't have. Do you find this valuable? |
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LJ126 |
15. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 9 2011, 1:17 AM EDT
I definitely want to touch on what Pedro said - zombie survival really isn't so much dependent on guns, much less even weapons. You gotta have your general survival stuff sorted out first. That's general knowledge and preparation, learning how to cook, grow food, hunt, preserve said foods, obtain water, build a shelter (and then improve upon it), communicate with the outside world, and so much more.However, guns are certainly the most exciting and interesting component to most people interested in zombie survival, as it's the only safe way (that I know of) to interact with a zombie. I've taken several firearms training courses, none at super recognizable schools like the Sig Academy (an AWESOME school, btw) but they were still fun and I learned a lot. Most hobbies can be adapted to survival purposes. Like to sew? People need coverings and shelter, and these skills translate to other things like leathercraft. Like to hunt, or interested in learning how? It's natural to learn how to process and cook if you're bringing game home. Like working with your hands and building things? Crafting long-term shelters might be something you'd really dig, and could learn a lot about. This are things that most people should know how to do, but if there's something in specific that you really enjoy doing, there's no reason not to develop that skill more than others - provided you don't neglect the essentials. Do you find this valuable? |
BOWman15 |
16. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 9 2011, 2:13 PM EDT
I like it. But you would have to give it another name. Zombie survival school would attract a lot of weirdo's that would just be playing around. And like some of the other guys i think there should be a wider curriculum. Although combat is very important because there are a lot of people who have never even touched a weopon before.
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Zombot |
17. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 9 2011, 5:30 PM EDT
Thanks Bowman. Yeah, talking to my wife about it, we wouldn't even touch guns, because the school isn't about that. Go to a shooting class or a gun range. Not many places teach CQC and all of the survival/evasion kind of stuff you'd be required to do in ANY end of world scenario...And yeah, I definitely wouldn't mention zombies in the name, but it'd be an extra class or something like that... Do you find this valuable? |
John_234 |
18. RE: Zombie Survival School/Bootcamp
Aug 10 2011, 1:55 AM EDT
Well, guns and stuff is what "zombie shoots" are for - those things tend to be popular even without a user base or good advertising.A camp could cover plenty of stuff. But I think zombie training should be what it is called, and we shouldn't try to cover that up. It advertises to a diverse audience, and as long as material the "camp" covers is well-documented, nobody should walk away from it going "WTF was I thinking?" The fun thing about zombies is it lets us draw up tons of fun scenarios. We could get into stuff like basic woodwork for creating barricades from broken furniture and a few handtools - in a way that would be effective. Or how to clear a room properly when it's probably infested with zombies. Somehow zombies keeps people from going "uhh..." when stepping out of their comfort zone with activities. I say the easiest way to do it is rent a building that has a big area and maybe a few rooms. Make a few panels to break up stuff into several hour long "classes" on a given specialty. Would not cost too much if you took some minimal admission pay, and it's a nice small event to spring off for larger events. Do you find this valuable? |
