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oldannyboy37
oldannyboy37
20. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 7 2011, 5:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2011, 5:11 AM EDT
I'd take one for intimidation factor. I've never worked with any equipment like that before so I'd like to keep it's use to a minimum, Not to mention it was waste ammo.
If I have as much ammo as you're talking about I'd probably use a rifle chambered in the round that I now have a huge stockpile of ammo for.
It could be useful for scarring raiders off though......but I would limit it's use.
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sfjase
sfjase
21. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 7 2011, 1:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2011, 1:59 PM EDT
they are also used on vehicles of special convoys i.e. presidental SUV's, nuclear security... and other special jobs Do you find this valuable?    
sfjase
sfjase
22. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 7 2011, 2:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2011, 2:01 PM EDT
Also as was mentioned if used in vehicle or mounted as a defense on a fort you have to have electricity to utilize this weapon system... Do you find this valuable?    
Rand22
Rand22
23. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 7 2011, 5:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2011, 5:09 PM EDT
I might use it if i have a perminant base set up or if it were on a vechicle...otherwise it make a sexy wall mount to show off in my home/shelter Do you find this valuable?    
chitoryu12
chitoryu12
24. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 7 2011, 5:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2011, 5:39 PM EDT
"Don't the Minis run off 24 volt systems? Could be a b!tch on the ground vehicles. That'd be cool.

Usage as in testing or actually in combat?"
I believe they've seen combat. Of course, they can't carry as much ammunition as an aircraft or ship-based weapon system. For ground vehicles, it's just plain cheaper to mount gas or recoil-operated weapons that probably won't run out of ammo in combat.
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sfjase
sfjase
25. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 7 2011, 7:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2011, 7:29 PM EDT
"I believe they've seen combat. Of course, they can't carry as much ammunition as an aircraft or ship-based weapon system. For ground vehicles, it's just plain cheaper to mount gas or recoil-operated weapons that probably won't run out of ammo in combat."
here's a little video from youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nug5FZgxuk )
this particular model is a dillon areo. i just think it's cool but that's cause i carry the 240 all the time and never get to see these.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
26. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 7 2011, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 7 2011, 11:13 PM EDT
"I believe they've seen combat. Of course, they can't carry as much ammunition as an aircraft or ship-based weapon system. For ground vehicles, it's just plain cheaper to mount gas or recoil-operated weapons that probably won't run out of ammo in combat."
Oh really? Lucky bastards with the Mini with them....

I think I'd rather the M240 series because if I ever needed to egress I couldn't with the Mini, you can with the M240 or even M2 probably (b!tch though)
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sfjase
sfjase
27. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 6:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 6:58 PM EDT
Good point I get bored of the M-240 working with it daily but your right I can carry all 28 lbs of it + Ammo. What about the old M-60 I got to shoot one in tech school right before they took it out of inventory. Anyone have experience with that??? Do you find this valuable?    
SovietPrince
SovietPrince
28. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 8:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 8:08 PM EDT
Lets see, I skimmed over most of the comments.

So, you want an M134.

You'd need the gun, the mount, linkless or disentegrating belt feed system(just depends on how you want to run the ammunition) and a ton of 7.62 x 51 NATO ammunition....

Oh almost forgot, the RIGHT battery.

Its said that the weapon will fire so long as you have power and ammo.

as terrifying as such a weapon is..

and as much as I'd want one aiming out of the second story of my dream home, like others have said, it isn't necessary.
For mowing down alot of zombies.. SURE!

Then again, my opinion is that fragmentation bombs dropped from fighter jets will easily end the zedpoc.. at least the majority of it.

defending against humans...is great. Until some smartass on the opposition realizes "hey, no power, no burping cannon"

@ sharpie: While.. it is... "plausible" to carry the M2 and barrel by one man, its generally carried by two.. barrel and gun apart from each other.

also, you'd need a tripod or a place to mount that f*cker.

and then the ammo cans.

I class the browning with the minigun. They are superior weapons... correction, "cannons" with the obvious drawbacks.

Personally, a few m1919 semi auto rifles with a crank mechanism would work just as fine in defense of a "fort".

No electricity. Multiple gun emplacements. .. and you can always bump fire if you don't have any of em with a crank trigger installed.

(i say crank because its legal in America to have such a configuration, and getting anything full auto instantly makes the price.. equivalent to a new challenger with a v8 hemi in it.

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sfjase
sfjase
29. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 8:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 8:17 PM EDT
"Then again, my opinion is that fragmentation bombs dropped from fighter jets will easily end the zedpoc.. at least the majority of it.
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Or napalm were still one of the only countries in NATO that still can use napalm.
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ZeMatch
ZeMatch
30. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 8:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 8:28 PM EDT
Hey Kody, how about taking part in the discussions you start? You've started three threads already and have not responded to the first post. Any reason why? Do you find this valuable?    
Filadog
Filadog
31. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 8:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 8:28 PM EDT
"Good point I get bored of the M-240 working with it daily but your right I can carry all 28 lbs of it + Ammo. What about the old M-60 I got to shoot one in tech school right before they took it out of inventory. Anyone have experience with that??? "
I shot a dealers sample M60 years ago at a shoot, shot OK, but felt like a cheap gun.. My old Maxim was more accurate

The M60 has a reputation as one of the worst modern MG with lots of poor design features and problems, Things like a triiger assembly and gas system held together with twisted wire. Also if assembled wrong could be damaged
Was one of those weapons like the M14 that The US military adopted not because it was the best but because it was "ours"
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
32. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 8:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 8:43 PM EDT
"I shot a dealers sample M60 years ago at a shoot, shot OK, but felt like a cheap gun.. My old Maxim was more accurate

The M60 has a reputation as one of the worst modern MG with lots of poor design features and problems, Things like a triiger assembly and gas system held together with twisted wire. Also if assembled wrong could be damaged
Was one of those weapons like the M14 that The US military adopted not because it was the best but because it was "ours""
the competitor at the time was the fn fal i think..

i like the look better than that of the m14..
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sfjase
sfjase
33. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 8:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 8:58 PM EDT
"I shot a dealers sample M60 years ago at a shoot, shot OK, but felt like a cheap gun.. My old Maxim was more accurate

The M60 has a reputation as one of the worst modern MG with lots of poor design features and problems, Things like a triiger assembly and gas system held together with twisted wire. Also if assembled wrong could be damaged
Was one of those weapons like the M14 that The US military adopted not because it was the best but because it was "ours""
O.K. that explains why we went to the M-240.
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sfjase
sfjase
34. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 9:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 9:03 PM EDT
"the competitor at the time was the fn fal i think..

i like the look better than that of the m14.. "
we chose the M-14 and 90 other countries chose the FAL. I wish we would have joined them thats alot of extra parts available across the world just like the AK with the warsaw pact group... But were americans I guess they liked being different at the time...
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Filadog
Filadog
35. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 9:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 9:13 PM EDT
When the US military adopted the M60 back in the 1950s one of the guns that competed against it in the trials was the FN MAG 58 which did better then it but still the M60 was adopted,

Finaly many years later the M60 was replaced by the M240 a much better gun and which is a variation of........the FN MAG 58 !

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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
36. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 9:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 9:33 PM EDT
"Oh really? Lucky bastards with the Mini with them....

I think I'd rather the M240 series because if I ever needed to egress I couldn't with the Mini, you can with the M240 or even M2 probably (b!tch though)"
You can egress with the M2, but what would be the point?

It's not designed to be fired from the hip or shoulder, and you're never going to find it with a trigger system that would allow it (except in a custom mount that would be one of the most useless wastes of ammunition ever). You also wouldn't have a tripod to mount it on when you left.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
37. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 8 2011, 10:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 8 2011, 10:57 PM EDT
"You can egress with the M2, but what would be the point?

It's not designed to be fired from the hip or shoulder, and you're never going to find it with a trigger system that would allow it (except in a custom mount that would be one of the most useless wastes of ammunition ever). You also wouldn't have a tripod to mount it on when you left."
Do BOTH of the trigger levers have to be pressed to fire? If not, sling attached to receiver and on the barrel and use one have to fire it, you don't truly need to have a trigger kit, and I see your point with the tripod, and ammo too
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
38. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 9 2011, 1:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 9 2011, 1:48 AM EDT
"Do BOTH of the trigger levers have to be pressed to fire? If not, sling attached to receiver and on the barrel and use one have to fire it, you don't truly need to have a trigger kit, and I see your point with the tripod, and ammo too "
... sharpie, i know you got good intentions on your post.. but..

its bad enough that 2 m107's push a marine back when he's dual wielding them for the hell of it(youtube military vids ftw)

but, i seriously want to see you try to carry an m2. and then shoot. maybe not you.. just some jack off that thinks he's picking that b*tch up and carrying it..
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
39. RE: if you could get your hands on a military grade mini-gun...
Aug 9 2011, 1:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 9 2011, 1:57 AM EDT
"When the US military adopted the M60 back in the 1950s one of the guns that competed against it in the trials was the FN MAG 58 which did better then it but still the M60 was adopted,

Finaly many years later the M60 was replaced by the M240 a much better gun and which is a variation of........the FN MAG 58 !

"
i think most of our lmg's are belgian made, aka fn herstal.

come to think of it, so is the SCAR..

you know.. i find it increasing interesting by the second to contemplate the weapon choices the united states made.

The history of the AR18, AR10, and eventually m16 rifle is also quite interesting, but no need to bicker. there are books that explain all the facts now.

but, speaking of lmg's... wikipedia is so nice to me.

Its shown me Hk's newest production.. the HK121..

Not HK21.. this is different.. resembles the MG4 apparently.. i still say they should've modernized the MG3 and made it shoot lazer beams. LOL
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