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Zombot |
BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 19 2011, 6:53 AM EDT
I've put several hours into making my current, near term, and long term BOB plans (located in my profile) and I'm interested to hear what people's thoughts are on them.Second, I was wondering if anyone in the Maryland area already had a BOL plan and wouldn't mind a few extra helping hands, or if anyone familiar with the area had a good idea on where to head. Third, does anyone know of perhaps unadvertised places in Maryland/Virginia that would allow me to shoot the Mosin Nagant I plan on buying soon? I've checked several in Maryland, and none of them allow for shooting of rifles over .223, at least not that I can find... Do you find this valuable?
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OutlawJames |
1. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 19 2011, 8:00 AM EDT
First, welcome to the site.I was looking over your BOB current and planned, seems you are being logical about what you have /dont have/ need to aquire. Just a few things, I would obtain a few magnesium matches (more reliable in wet weather than either reguler matches or bic lighters and last longer) I would ditch the cast iron frying pan in favor of something much lighter in weight. They are great in the kitchen, but when you have to humkp it across the boondocks.... Also, are you trained with swords or edged weapons? if not I would ditch the whole idea of carrying an edged melee weapon. ( read that sword) The buttstock of that Mosin is heavy and solid and already in your hands. It will deal a crushing blow to a head. Do you find this valuable? |
x-wolfhunter |
2. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 19 2011, 8:50 AM EDT
| Post edited: Aug 19 2011, 8:52 AM EDT
@OutlawJames: Are you referring to the KA-BAR? That's not a sword. And edged melee weapons are fine. They have many other purposes as well. I would, however, maybe throw a light-weight crowbar into his pack.@Zombot: One thing that sticks out at me: The broom handles. What kind of broom handles are they? If they are wooden, they will break. If they are plastic, they are not heavy enough to deal a killing blow. If they are metal, they are too heavy to carry. I would leave the broom handles behind as a melee weapon. If you wanted to take one as a walking stick, I can definitely see that. But as a melee weapon? There are infinite amounts of better melee weapons than broom handles. And to add on to what OutlawJames said about firestarters: It's always a good idea to have at least two ways of starting a fire. I have three: A magnesium/flint stick, waterproof matches, and a lighter. This is NOT excessive; All of these are lightweight, barely noticable, but yet could still save my life. In your maintenance/tools box, I see you have a hammer. What kind is it? If it is a regular old carpenter's hammer, leave it behind. There are many reasons to do so, like: For one, it's too heavy to be a uni-purpose tool. Everything in your B.O.B MUST have many purposes, spanning a broad range of tasks. That hammer (If it is indeed a carpenter's hammer) would suck as a melee weapon (Too short, and it has too high a chance of becoming stuck in the skull) and has a limited tool ability, since it is designed to hammer nails in and then take them out if need be. My suggestion is this: If you ever need to hammer something, use the butt of your KA-BAR. It's flat, isn't it? While it may not be as easy/quick as a carpenter's hammer, it can also cut you some kindling, be used as a last-ditch melee weapon of high quality, and also be used to cut the meat from your latest kill (Animal, of course). among many other things. TBC Do you find this valuable? |
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x-wolfhunter |
3. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 19 2011, 9:04 AM EDT
In your information box, you have a cell phone and chargers. I have this to say about them: How are you going to charge your cell phone in the middle of the woods? And even if you get to a house with outlets, there is no guarantee of any power flowing to them. Remember, this B.O.B is for disasters. Even in a simple storm, power goes out. Now think of hundreds of thousands of zombies screwing around.I personally have a solar USB charger. This allows me to charge my iPods on-the-go. As for entertainment, a simple deck of cards goes a long way, as does a journal or a pocket book. You defnitely do not want a pitchfork. It's too heavy, and the chances of you puncturing the skull with it are slim. Also, with the curved tongs, it will be difficult to pull it out of the skull again, if you manage to sink it in in the first place. Here, use this B.O.B as your guide: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Ironhand%27s+BugOutBag Ironhand's Bug-Out-Bag is complete and it is definitely worth checking out. Do you find this valuable? |
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OutlawJames |
4. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 19 2011, 10:43 AM EDT
"@OutlawJames: Are you referring to the KA-BAR? That's not a sword. And edged melee weapons are fine. They have many other purposes as well. I would, however, maybe throw a light-weight crowbar into his pack.No I am not refering to the KA-BAR. I am refering to the Naginata that he is thinking on buying. which is a pole arm of sorts ( basically a shortsword on a long handle). He already will have a rifle at that point which would incline me to believe he would be carrying that at the ready, which means he would need to sling the Naginata somehow. Needless extra weight and combersome/awkward. Do you find this valuable? |
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x-wolfhunter |
5. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 19 2011, 10:58 AM EDT
"No I am not refering to the KA-BAR. I am refering to the Naginata that he is thinking on buying. which is a pole arm of sorts ( basically a shortsword on a long handle).Ah. Yes, the Naginata would be cumbersome. Especially if he had both the Naginata and the pitchfork. Do you find this valuable? |
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Zombot |
6. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 27 2011, 11:41 AM EDT
As for the broom handles, I was thinking just initially, to stab under chins or through eye sockets. Nothing long term from them, but could help take a couple zeds down, or my son could use one like a bo-staff and at least push zombies away so my wife and I could deal with them...I definitely see your point, though.In reference to the Naginata, that's absolutely at the bottom of my list. No, I'm not well trained with bladed weapons, but at range, with the curved blade, a thrust up under the chin, (like the broom handles) would be a great quick kill, as long as I could keep on the move. And I'd carry the pitchfork -or- Naginata, probably not both... The magnesium matches are something I absolutely meant to have on my list, thank you for the reminder. To the hammer, I was thinking of getting one of those nifty multi-tools, like the Crovel. And for the cellphones, I actually talked to the wife about getting one of those solar charge backpacks that you can plug USB chargers and the like into. Thanks for all of the input! (FYI, I did use Ironhand's BOB for mine, but I modified it with what I have and what I think I can get/use.) Do you find this valuable? |
John_234 |
7. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 27 2011, 11:46 AM EDT
Naginata is a terrible idea. No blade rigidity, extreme danger to user and ones around them as well as extremely difficult to use in general.What I'd suggest is a normal polearm like those broom handles or pitchfork. One decent idea is to have an actual broom, or something with a flat platform on the end of the pole to pin a zombie to the ground while someone else finishes it off. Do you find this valuable? |
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x-wolfhunter |
8. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Aug 27 2011, 11:54 AM EDT
"As for the broom handles, I was thinking just initially, to stab under chins or through eye sockets. Nothing long term from them, but could help take a couple zeds down, or my son could use one like a bo-staff and at least push zombies away so my wife and I could deal with them...I definitely see your point, though.Definitely don't take both the Naginata and pitchfork. The Crovel looks pretty good, but it would be very awkward trying to hammer in anything with it . . . Just get a small solar charger, no need to buy a special backpack. And no problem! Just putting in my .02 Do you find this valuable? |
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Zombot |
9. RE: BOB for Review + BOL idea request
Sep 14 2011, 4:10 AM EDT
"Naginata is a terrible idea. No blade rigidity, extreme danger to user and ones around them as well as extremely difficult to use in general.Considering I've never actually held one, I didn't know that. Thanks much for that input, I'll strike it from my list. For the pitchfork, I was actually thinking one could buy a three prong pitchfork and bend the two outside tines all the way around or remove them. Then you can use the middle spike to either try for the eye socket, under the chin and up into the brain, or use it to pin a zombie through the chest for a moment of respite if the circumstances call for it/allow for it. Do you find this valuable? |
