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hollickrichard
hollickrichard
My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:36 AM EDT
1. Win lottery.

2. Build large New home on a gentle slope near to a stream.

Rain water re-cycling system. http://www.rainwaterharvesting.co.uk
Solar electric (pv) system for power. http://www.spiritsolar.co.uk
Solar thermal system for hot water. http://www.spiritsolar.co.uk
On site medium scale wind turbine. http://www.myriadceg.com

Additional requirements cellar with cold store and walk-in freezer and wine cellar. Medium / Large indoor pool with gym and sauna / steam room, games room.

House to be of flat roof design with living roof. http://sedum-green-roof.co.uk
House to be constructed of stone with concealed shutter system. http://www.chartergroupuk.com
house to be fitted with laminated glass and optical shutter systems. http://www.rationel.co.uk
http://www.uniblitz.com

House to be fitted with steel cored doors to all entry points. http://www.avantgardedoors.co.uk/

House will include extensive library both in hard copy form and multiple pre-loaded kindle e-readers linked to pc with triple redundancy backups on non linked systems.

Security system to include wireless camera system on all points of entry and approaches system will be capable of being monitored from safe room and handheld wireless tablet and will be able to operate shutter system, lighting and optical systems remotely both from tablet and by text from mobile (while the mobile network exists).
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x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
1. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 9:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 9:05 AM EDT
So . . . your entire plan is dependant on you winning the lottery?

Trollolololol . . .

EDT: His slogan is "too prepared = inflexibility, stagnation." WTFail?
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
2. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 10:22 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 10:23 AM EDT
You have to be 18 to purchase a lottery ticket =p

here is something you might find useful. a section on something called a "bug out bag".

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Bug+Out+Bags+%28INDEX%29

Better to be prepared than to draw up elaborate plans for a house that takes a while to design and build.

also,

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic

Welcome to the ZSDW.

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hollickrichard
hollickrichard
3. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 6:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 6:48 PM EDT
"So . . . your entire plan is dependant on you winning the lottery?

Trollolololol . . .

EDT: His slogan is "too prepared = inflexibility, stagnation." WTFail?"
and of course your planning, training and preparation will be so useful if the zombies don't turn up where as i will have a nice house....odds of lottery thousands to 1 odds of zombies don't make me laugh.....
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
4. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 6:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 6:54 PM EDT
"and of course your planning, training and preparation will be so useful if the zombies don't turn up where as i will have a nice house....odds of lottery thousands to 1 odds of zombies don't make me laugh....."
The majority of members here don't believe in zombies. They either like survival in general, or just find it fun to talk about.
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
5. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 6:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 6:56 PM EDT
"and of course your planning, training and preparation will be so useful if the zombies don't turn up where as i will have a nice house....odds of lottery thousands to 1 odds of zombies don't make me laugh....."
*sigh*

you'll always have THAT GUY.
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
6. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:00 PM EDT
Oh, also, he got the number wrong. Most major lotteries are millions to one, aren't they? Do you find this valuable?    
hollickrichard
hollickrichard
7. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:10 PM EDT
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here is something you might find useful. a section on something called a "bug out bag".

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Bug+Out+Bags+%28INDEX%29

Better to be prepared than to draw up elaborate plans for a house that takes a while to design and build.

also,

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic

Welcome to the ZSDW.

"
thank you for your welcome and your advice, I of course see my plan as a kind of wish list for the kind of home i would like to own if and when the miracle happens and i do win said lottery.
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Muther78
Muther78
8. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:15 PM EDT
"thank you for your welcome and your advice, I of course see my plan as a kind of wish list for the kind of home i would like to own if and when the miracle happens and i do win said lottery. "
Your chances of being hit by lighting or attacked by a shark are better than hitting one of the big lottery jackpots. You may want to come up with a plan grounded within a little bit of reality.
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hollickrichard
hollickrichard
9. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:17 PM EDT
"The majority of members here don't believe in zombies. They either like survival in general, or just find it fun to talk about."
I enjoy the general discussion also, and the survival angle but I found Mr wolfhunters attitude a little arrogant towards a newby oh and yes i agree on the lottery being millions to one,,,
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
10. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:19 PM EDT
"Your chances of being hit by lighting or attacked by a shark are better than hitting one of the big lottery jackpots. You may want to come up with a plan grounded within a little bit of reality."
Muther hit the nail on the head with this.

Your entire plan is based on a million-to-one shot, but yet you deride X-wolf on the grounds that zombies aren't realistic (even though, as I said, most of us don't believe in zombies.)

Why not make a plan based on something you can actually control, rather than on random chance?
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hollickrichard
hollickrichard
11. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:20 PM EDT
"Your chances of being hit by lighting or attacked by a shark are better than hitting one of the big lottery jackpots. You may want to come up with a plan grounded within a little bit of reality."
reality what like the zombies in your attic.....
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
12. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:21 PM EDT
"I enjoy the general discussion also, and the survival angle but I found Mr wolfhunters attitude a little arrogant towards a newby oh and yes i agree on the lottery being millions to one,,,"
Admittedly, yes it was, but he had a point: basing your entire plan on a miracle isn't a good idea.
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
13. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:22 PM EDT
"reality what like the zombies in your attic....."
No, reality like making preparations based on what you have access to.
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Muther78
Muther78
14. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:43 PM EDT
"No, reality like making preparations based on what you have access to.
"
Exactly.

My reality is that I currently live in a one bedroom apartment with my girlfriend and two beagles. Coupled with my sixteen years in the fire rescue service and other skills; I have made my SHTF plans to reflect my current income and living conditions. Not what based on what I don't have or think I could stumble across or win.

I don't belive that a zombies will be trying to beat down my door in the dead of the night. I have made my preparations to protect my loved ones and myself in the event of something going wrong.
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hollickrichard
hollickrichard
15. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 7:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 7:59 PM EDT
"Exactly.

My reality is that I currently live in a one bedroom apartment with my girlfriend and two beagles. Coupled with my sixteen years in the fire rescue service and other skills; I have made my SHTF plans to reflect my current income and living conditions. Not what based on what I don't have or think I could stumble across or win.

I don't belive that a zombies will be trying to beat down my door in the dead of the night. I have made my preparations to protect my loved ones and myself in the event of something going wrong. "
ok lets take a breath, I live with my wife and two boys in a small cottage where i keep chickens and grow veg, catch fish in the sea and shoot the occasional rabbit.
I don't have a huge arsenal I have an air rifle and some axes for wood. BUT I refuse to be restricted by means if as some on here say they have many plans depending on the situation why cant I plan for unlimited money too......I am sorry if this offends the realistic amongst you. PS beagles are lovely dogs.
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x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
16. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 8:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 8:29 PM EDT
"and of course your planning, training and preparation will be so useful if the zombies don't turn up where as i will have a nice house....odds of lottery thousands to 1 odds of zombies don't make me laugh....."
Oh, boy, you don't want to get me started.

Where to begin. Let's see . . . Firstly, as has been stated before, most of us here don't believe in zombies. Me included. My planning, training, and preparation actually are useful. Keep in mind that zombie preparation is a metaphor for survival preparation. If zombies don't show up, all fine and dandy - guess what? I'm healthy, fit, and ready all the same! And what if the power goes out for three months? Oh, lucky me, I'm prepared for if the power goes out forever!

You have a nice house, supposing you've won the lottery. A flood or tornado or some other natural disaster will take that away, whereas that same natural disaster will allow my preparation to come to fruition. I could go on and on about how my preparation will serve me well and how your million-dollar-house will, in the same situations where my preparation comes in handy, become obsolete or worthless.

As for my "arrogant attitude towards the newbie," I thought you were likely to be a troll, since anybody serious about survival (And therefore serious about this site) does not base their survival plan on the off-chance they win the lottery.

As for your slogan, I have this to say: Planning and preparation aren't actually restrictive, my friend. If you are completely and totally prepared for a zombie outbreak, you are completely and totally prepared for an economic crises, a shortage/complete lack of oil, even simple things such as being laid off.

Try and find a flaw in what I have just said. Do it.
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
17. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 8:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 8:51 PM EDT
"ok lets take a breath..."
hmm.. well, I hope you read everything. ANd now you're probably reading my post, richard.

Don't mind the others. You tend to get this mix of opinions and somewhat "attacks" although I know everyone that has commented and they have sincere intentions, please mind that.

Gentlemen, tone it down a bit, he seems to be a decent fella =)

Now, hollickrichard, while the idea of realistics has been thrown around.. the thought that winning the lottery is more realistic than zombies is one built upon the preset thought that there is a realistic chance that SOMEONE will win it.

But zombies.. well, first of all.. is a catch all term. If we could make an acronym out of it.. we would. Unfortunately, there are far too many scenarios to prepare for, and we certainly can't fit them in 7 letters(Z.O.M.B.I.E.)

you can always "plan" for unlimited money.

Or, you could better yourself with what you already have. I like the story you have told us. i dont mean story as in "WOW he's Bullsh*tting us". nah, i can respect a family that is still in touch with nature in that aspect.

What i would reccomend, is to build a small survival pack of sorts for each of your family members that live with you, as well as one for yourself. you don't need to get all "tacticool", but, 3 days of water and food, extra clothing, basic things like a compass and the like.. it may go a long way someday. let's hope we'd never have to use our preparations though lol. also, a defensive weapon, if your state/country permits it, would be great as well. if money is a problem..

I'd point you towards 3 weapons:
mosin nagant-great bolt action rifle with a history. 90-120US dollars
12 gauge rem 870 copy- cheap chinese copy(forgot the name), you can get em for about 150
marlin 795 or ruger 10/22- both are excellent rifles
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
18. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 8:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 8:54 PM EDT
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..excellent rifles; they will run between 120 and 180, depending on which you look at and where. the 795 is definitely cheaper though.

And if you can't get a gun, thats just fine. bows and crossbows arent too expensive. But if you dont want either, you are kinda gambling with your life. Nowadays, at least.

Anyways, like i said, gentlemen, calm your speech to this newcomer.

And, richard, welcome to the site.

=)
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SovietPrince
SovietPrince
19. RE: My survival plan
Aug 27 2011, 8:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2011, 8:55 PM EDT
"reality what like the zombies in your attic....."
also, i would try not to aggravate them. try to keep an open mind.

(forgot to mention that)
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