Sign in or 

|
Twirligig |
Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 11:04 AM EDT
All right, heres my situation and why this question is so important. Where I live, the only gun store in town only sells basic civillian pellet guns, there is a small highway patrol station about a mile away south off the next freeway exit but in the first days of chaos, the last thing I want to do is be in a place crowded with desperate and terrified people who happen to be wielding firearms. So Ill have to man up and carry around a shovel/skillet/piece of rebar for quite a while.Unfortantely, human skulls are tough and by the time Ive 'purified' the 11th Zombie, my wrists are going to be throbbing and if they could speak, would be screaming obscenities at me for being an idiot. So, anyone got some tips so that my arms can survive before a real melee weapon? Do you find this valuable? |
|
John_234 |
1. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 11:19 AM EDT
"All right, heres my situation and why this question is so important. Where I live, the only gun store in town only sells basic civillian pellet guns, there is a small highway patrol station about a mile away south off the next freeway exit but in the first days of chaos, the last thing I want to do is be in a place crowded with desperate and terrified people who happen to be wielding firearms. So Ill have to man up and carry around a shovel/skillet/piece of rebar for quite a while.One option is to use something designed to soak up recoil, like an aluminum bat. Otherwise, there's some aftermarket grips out there for bats, crowbars and such which are designed to decrease said recoil. Some weapons also generate less recoil by nature of use, like a warhammer, axe or whatnot. Do you find this valuable? |
|
Twirligig |
2. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 11:30 AM EDT
"One option is to use something designed to soak up recoil, like an aluminum bat. Otherwise, there's some aftermarket grips out there for bats, crowbars and such which are designed to decrease said recoil.Thats true, I could easily pick one up at my local hardware store, thanks for reminding me that those exist lol. If I'm really lucky, I may be able to 'borrow' a fireaxe from the fire department down the road which wont take me too far off course from the path I have in mind... Do you find this valuable? |
|
John_234 |
3. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 11:34 AM EDT
"Thats true, I could easily pick one up at my local hardware store, thanks for reminding me that those exist lol. If I'm really lucky, I may be able to 'borrow' a fireaxe from the fire department down the road which wont take me too far off course from the path I have in mind..."Nah. I'd just buy a commercial axe. No stealing or "borrowing" necessary, lots of customization and holster options too. Sharpening files are widely available too. Though, your comment does make me think - the good thing about preferring an axe as a weapon is that a large number of buildings have some type of fire axe in their fire response inventory along with the extinguisher and alarms. Do you find this valuable? |
|
Unassigned |
4. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 12:01 PM EDT
"Nah. I'd just buy a commercial axe. No stealing or "borrowing" necessary, lots of customization and holster options too. Sharpening files are widely available too.Agreed. Buy one yourself if you choose to go down that route. Tomahawks are nice options as well. Items with polypropylene might be good to look into as well. They are lightweight, designed to bend and absorb energy and very durable. If you have the ability, look into archery. Bows and crossbows are common options for those who are unable to purchase firearms. Do you find this valuable? |
|
x-wolfhunter |
5. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 12:01 PM EDT
Prepare today so you don't have to tomorrow, my friend.
Do you find this valuable?
|
|
John_234 |
6. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 12:10 PM EDT
"Agreed. Buy one yourself if you choose to go down that route. Tomahawks are nice options as well. Items with polypropylene might be good to look into as well. They are lightweight, designed to bend and absorb energy and very durable.A lot of hatchets I've seen had foam "recoil sleeves," but I realized that the problem with an axe is that a proper swing involves moving your hand down the shaft for momentum. Dunno if they make large foam grips, hm.... Do you find this valuable? |
|
brandon_a_boyer |
7. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 12:16 PM EDT
Neoprene gloves.
Do you find this valuable?
|
|
LJ126 |
8. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 2:23 PM EDT
Start a practical weight training program. When you're getting strong, you're not just training your muscles; lifting stimulates tendon growth, your body adapts to send the new, stronger muscles more blood by modifying your circulatory system to handle the increased load, and burdening a heavy load frequently has been shown to increase bone density. Your joints will also strengthen as well.Look at it like this - ever worked a shovel or split firewood before? The first time REALLY sucked afterward, right? The next time wasn't as bad, provided you healed up a little between sessions. After that, it becomes much easier. That's why I really dig Strongman-style workouts. They're more practical (IMO) than barbell workouts because attention to form, while important, isn't absolutely imperative. The objective is to just get the task done, be that flipping the tire X number of times, Y number of sledgehammer swings, 2 sets of farmers walks, etc. It's more of a game than lifting and pressing is, and has the same benefits. Do you find this valuable? |
|
oldannyboy37 |
9. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 3:58 PM EDT
One thing you might consider is a bicycle inner tube. You can buy them for a few dollars and slide them over the grip of whatver melee weapon you have and it will insulate shock (To a small extent). It would also give you a more grippy handle.
Do you find this valuable?
|
|
cyrano222 |
10. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 27 2011, 4:30 PM EDT
LJ is correct, make the weapon good but make your body better, I am probably old enough to be your grandpa but I can swing a mull all day and stack also. I burn six to seven cord of wood a winter, thats a fair piece of splitting and stacking. If you dont live in the sticks there are other things you can do, use your mind and develop your body, Heck come Oct come up here I will get you in shape or kill ya trying.
Do you find this valuable?
|
|
DonovanRichter |
11. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 28 2011, 1:37 PM EDT
| Post edited: Aug 28 2011, 1:40 PM EDT
Mhehehehe, I guess LJ and Cyrano have basically said this already but yeah, melee weapons absolutely require conditioning. =^_^= I guess I never knew that there were physiological reasons for why I don't experience the pain of recoil that others claim should be there when swinging things. I'd always thought I had just gotten used to it and didn't notice it anymore but the tendon strengthening theory makes way more sense. Kinda like how your dominant hand is slightly larger than your lazy hand. =^_^= But regardless, if you only have melee options available (or you're nuts like me and for some ungodly reason want to focus on melee only) Conditioning is necessary. Even though I have some really nice anti-zombie weapons now that I've switched over to, I still have to say a common woodcutting axe, found in a fleamarket and weighing about 3lb or so is a perfect choice for zombie defense. Normal chops can be performed falling downward diagonally at the temple, jaw, neck clavicle area are fast to recover from, while stepping backward, should you miss. And a lever powered close range chop (without sliding your hand down the handle) is perfect if you're surprised at grappling range. =^_^= Do you find this valuable? |
|
Sharpie41 |
12. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 29 2011, 12:24 AM EDT
"LJ is correct, make the weapon good but make your body better, I am probably old enough to be your grandpa but I can swing a mull all day and stack also. I burn six to seven cord of wood a winter, thats a fair piece of splitting and stacking. If you dont live in the sticks there are other things you can do, use your mind and develop your body, Heck come Oct come up here I will get you in shape or kill ya trying."Awesome response. OP: It may have been said, but wrap in a grip wrap, the kind to replace bat grips, or what OBD37 said about the inner tube, but I wouldn't buy one, I'm sure people put bikes in the alley for free just to get rid of them, take off the tire and use that, or if you have an old tube.... Or use a cord wrap like paracord, it may soak up vibrations Do you find this valuable? |
|
Filadog |
13. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 29 2011, 7:26 AM EDT
I think if you have killed so many zombies using a shovel or Skillet so that your arms hurt you have way bigger problems then sore armsInstead of concentrating on building up your arms work on your legs and thinking so you can get the heck out of trouble Do you find this valuable? |
|
csboy755 |
14. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Aug 29 2011, 9:39 AM EDT
DURR GET A KATANA ITS THE BEST WEAPON EVA!!!!11In all seriousness, I think you should invest in a machete. Due to it's nature as a bladed weapon, it will not create as much recoil as a blunt weapon that vibrates (say a hollow aluminum bat, metal pole, or skillet) Machete is good for utility as well as zed killing, and most of them don't weigh much. Forearm strength is one of the main factors in how hard you strike, so work on your fore arm muscles (it'll let you punch harder too) http://www.leehayward.com/exercises/forearms/ that has good exercises for building strong forearms. If you want to stick with blunt, I would like to recommend something that doesn't vibrate as much when hitting something. Personally, I recommend the Cold Steel war club. it only costs around 30 bucks and with the metal nub at the end, It's sure to blow the head off a zed in one strike. The CS war club is also made of polypropylene, a very hard and durable plastic. I've slammed the handle (which should be the weakest part compared to the rest) countless times against sturdy wood and metal fence posts and it's still fine. Also, polypropylene also has the advantage over wood in that it won't rot or warp. So it's low recoil, high destructive power, doesn't weigh too much (2 lbs i think?) can be used effectively both one or two handed, and it's little to no maintenance. I've never bothered to dry it off, and the metal nub only has a tiny bit of rust that doesn't affect the club's performance. Do you find this valuable? |
|
DudeManrod420 |
15. RE: Reducing recoil for melee?
Sep 8 2011, 10:57 PM EDT
"LJ is correct, make the weapon good but make your body better, I am probably old enough to be your grandpa but I can swing a mull all day and stack also. I burn six to seven cord of wood a winter, thats a fair piece of splitting and stacking. If you dont live in the sticks there are other things you can do, use your mind and develop your body, Heck come Oct come up here I will get you in shape or kill ya trying."Ahh splitting and stacking, nothing like it to get your arms and back in shape, bailing hay is also good. Do you find this valuable? |