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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
100. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 7 2012, 9:19 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 9:23 AM EST
"SM- God you got too much free time lol jk. I like your thinking."
LOL well my mind is quite warped and I am always thinking. A thought tree, did you notice am an ampersand away from S&M lol.
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TreeLegs
TreeLegs
101. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 7 2012, 12:55 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 12:55 PM EST
"LOL well my mind is quite warped and I am always thinking. A thought tree, did you notice am an ampersand away from S&M lol."
That I did sir lol.

So do these battery powered systems have a way of letting you know when they run out of juice?
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White76Knight
White76Knight
102. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 7 2012, 3:24 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 3:24 PM EST
"So do these battery powered systems have a way of letting you know when they run out of juice?"
Absolutely. That's when you wake up with a zed chewing on your face because the system DIDN'T zap you like it was supposed to. LOL
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TreeLegs
TreeLegs
103. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 7 2012, 3:33 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 3:33 PM EST
"Absolutely. That's when you wake up with a zed chewing on your face because the system DIDN'T zap you like it was supposed to. LOL"
Oh ok, was just making sure lol.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
104. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 7 2012, 3:48 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 4:05 PM EST
Ah serious time now, ahh!! noooooo!!!! it just feels so wrong! Most capacitors have a built in safety to tell you they are charging, only the smallest ones do not. Capacitors are used instead of batteries because capacitor would discharge all at once rather then decay over time. Once the system is tripped it is empty. The sound a capacitor makes when charging is a brief high pitched whine, no charging no whine. The self discharge rate of a capacitor is very low it would take many years for one to self discharge completely. Capacitors can be charged with any source of power even a tiny solar pannel off of a calculator or a modified dynamo flashlight this is because they accumulate energy until full. For quick bursts of power nothing beats a capacitor. They do not suffer from memory effect as batteries do and have a much shallower decay curve so they can be charged multipul times without worry. High quality capacitors will outlive the people using them. I am being very general but to list the types of capacitor would require a mega post lol. Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
105. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 7 2012, 9:50 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 9:50 PM EST
"Ah serious time now, ahh!! noooooo!!!! it just feels so wrong! Most capacitors have a built in safety to tell you they are charging, only the smallest ones do not. Capacitors are used instead of batteries because capacitor would discharge all at once rather then decay over time. Once the system is tripped it is empty. The sound a capacitor makes when charging is a brief high pitched whine, no charging no whine. The self discharge rate of a capacitor is very low it would take many years for one to self discharge completely. Capacitors can be charged with any source of power even a tiny solar pannel off of a calculator or a modified dynamo flashlight this is because they accumulate energy until full. For quick bursts of power nothing beats a capacitor. They do not suffer from memory effect as batteries do and have a much shallower decay curve so they can be charged multipul times without worry. High quality capacitors will outlive the people using them. I am being very general but to list the types of capacitor would require a mega post lol."
I like the idea of being able to use a low powered supply like a solar calculator or a dynamo flashlight to charge the capacitor. So what kind of circuit could one rig up, and more importantly, what other components would it require, so that the capacitor would deliver a mild shock to the sleeper if the system was tripped?
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RainofMails
RainofMails
106. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 7 2012, 10:31 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 10:31 PM EST
Have you ever heard someone inside a house snoring while you were outside on the street. Maybe from the hallway of an apartment building you could hear someone who snored really loudly but unless a zombie or a raider decided to check out the building you camped in they're not likely to hear you snoring. Just find a ground floor or second floor room with a window and a door and shut and lock both of them. Nobody should hear you snoring, rolling around, or mumbling in your sleep unless they were standing right next to the aforementioned door or window (unlikely with a second floor window) and if you've locked every door between you and outside, which could easily be three doors, you should have plenty of time to escape if someone is trying to bust in to you (unless you had a fire going or a nightlight they probably have no idea which room you're in even if they saw you enter the building). Do you really think a couple bandits are going to track you to an empty apartment building and then go room to room looking for you, knowing every room they open could be packed wall-to-wall with walking corpses? Chances are the first room they (loudly) break into isn't yours, and then you're out the window and gone. The only thing you really need to worry about is someone who can pick locks, or who has a lock gun, seeing you through a window before you bed down. Do you find this valuable?    
ubersoldat
ubersoldat
107. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 7 2012, 11:12 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 7 2012, 11:12 PM EST
the point to remember about your little nook is that if you thought of it, then so could someone else. It could be someone looking for a place to sleep like you, or it could be someone who looks in likely places for people to scrounge off of, maybe someone is actively watching such places for just such an opportunity, at the least it could be that a person fleeing from bandits or zombies could lead them to your cubbyhole.

your place needs to have easy access for you, but more difficult for zombies,and relatively good observation of the immediate area. Concealment is important, but complicated concealment can leave you trapped by your own ingenuity.

house attics can be a generally safe place to sleep with a little planning, inside the sleeper cabs of semis could be a good spot in the outskirts, sewers could be viable hideouts with proper recon first,, hiding under the bleachers in the gym of your local school or church would be good just make sure its clear since such places make for quick shelters in emergencies, on top of awnings and store fronts could work depending on the weather.

remember to keep camouflaging materials on hand and not simply rely on just the concealment of your location.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
108. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 8 2012, 11:34 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2012, 11:37 AM EST
"I like the idea of being able to use a low powered supply like a solar calculator or a dynamo flashlight to charge the capacitor. So what kind of circuit could one rig up, and more importantly, what other components would it require, so that the capacitor would deliver a mild shock to the sleeper if the system was tripped? "
@ white76knight well i'll message you the basic setup lol i am weary of posting how to's of my kludgings in open forum. Some people may misuse the data.

P.S. if the paperclip is coated rub it against a rock to decoat it.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
109. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Mar 8 2012, 12:37 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2012, 12:37 PM EST
"@ white76knight well i'll message you the basic setup lol i am weary of posting how to's of my kludgings in open forum. Some people may misuse the data.

P.S. if the paperclip is coated rub it against a rock to decoat it."
Okay, I got your message, shadow, but I haven't read it yet because at the moment I'm not awake enough to comprehend it. LOL

I'll check it out a little, when I'm more awake.
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Dangerous_D
Dangerous_D
110. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 26 2012, 8:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2012, 8:12 AM EDT
I like the thought of sleeping on top of a flat roofed building perfectible a strip mall or something of the sorts with a long or wide roof 1 to 1.5 floors simple because I use to climb them all the time if you pick the right ones there is dozens of ways to get up and down the side quickly but not quietly. Gas pipes on the side of the building will hold most people (250 pounds) if they are in good condition witch unless its abandoned before z day they will be because of laws about that ****. I perfer this to barricading a room because zeds defiantly cant get me if there is no access besides climbing pipes or rope to the roof. There is no door to knock down so as long as they dont surround the whole building you stand a chance and if they do you have time to think of some way to draw them away or another way to get out of there I prefer time to think then trying to make a mad scramble for a exit that may or may not be secure. Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
111. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 26 2012, 10:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2012, 10:58 AM EDT
"I like the thought of sleeping on top of a flat roofed building perfectible a strip mall or something of the sorts with a long or wide roof 1 to 1.5 floors simple because I use to climb them all the time if you pick the right ones there is dozens of ways to get up and down the side quickly but not quietly. Gas pipes on the side of the building will hold most people (250 pounds) if they are in good condition witch unless its abandoned before z day they will be because of laws about that ****. I perfer this to barricading a room because zeds defiantly cant get me if there is no access besides climbing pipes or rope to the roof. There is no door to knock down so as long as they dont surround the whole building you stand a chance and if they do you have time to think of some way to draw them away or another way to get out of there I prefer time to think then trying to make a mad scramble for a exit that may or may not be secure. "
If the whole building is surrounded you may be able to sort of use yourself as bait, luring them all to one end of the building then yourself making a mad scramble for the other end. As long as you are dealing with relatively slow shamblers, you should be able to reach the other end of the building, quickly hop down, and be away before they can make it back to that position. I wouldn't recommend trying that with ragers though.
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Dangerous_D
Dangerous_D
112. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 27 2012, 12:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 27 2012, 12:27 AM EDT
Very true if its ragers you are pretty screwed since they can some what climb. I wouldn't travel into towns or city's unless I absolualty needed to if it was a rage virus simple because I think ragers would be territorial kinda like rabies infected animals they tend to stay around where there infected because they wouldn't feel the need to feed like George's shamblers. Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
113. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 27 2012, 2:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 27 2012, 2:32 AM EDT
"Very true if its ragers you are pretty screwed since they can some what climb. I wouldn't travel into towns or city's unless I absolualty needed to if it was a rage virus simple because I think ragers would be territorial kinda like rabies infected animals they tend to stay around where there infected because they wouldn't feel the need to feed like George's shamblers."
That's true too, though I was more thinking that even if you lured them to one end of the building, they could probably keep pace with you while you tried to run to the other end, or maybe even outdistance you and get there ahead of you. It would really suck to think you had outfoxed them, only to hop down off your perch and land right in the midst of a drooling clawing mob.
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Dangerous_D
Dangerous_D
114. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 27 2012, 4:22 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 27 2012, 4:22 AM EDT
"That's true too, though I was more thinking that even if you lured them to one end of the building, they could probably keep pace with you while you tried to run to the other end, or maybe even outdistance you and get there ahead of you. It would really suck to think you had outfoxed them, only to hop down off your perch and land right in the midst of a drooling clawing mob."
lmao no joke I still like that plan better then just holing up in a abandoned house or other building hoping that they dont crash the barricades before I can grab my stuff and make up a plan of what to do.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
115. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 27 2012, 12:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 27 2012, 12:04 PM EDT
"lmao no joke I still like that plan better then just holing up in a abandoned house or other building hoping that they dont crash the barricades before I can grab my stuff and make up a plan of what to do. "
Just make sure that you have really, REALLY good barricades. LOL
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Madurjafro
Madurjafro
116. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 27 2012, 8:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 27 2012, 8:12 PM EDT
Since I am too lazy, I have just jumped to the last page and I am gonna give my verdict on this.

Sleeping alone in a city is probably going to be hit or miss for someone spotting you, in the city, it's all about concealment, camoflauge you and your equipement, hide you fire etc.

Getting high up makes sure it is harder to find you since Zeds or Raiders will have to put in extra effort to find you. I'd think that sleeping on the second floor of say a house or something would hide you good, it leaves very little option for escape which is obviously pretty bad. Frankly Its all how you feel about it, do you want to be high up with no way out? Or Low down where everyone can see you but you can make a quick escape.
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White76Knight
White76Knight
117. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 27 2012, 9:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 27 2012, 9:10 PM EDT
"Since I am too lazy, I have just jumped to the last page and I am gonna give my verdict on this.

Sleeping alone in a city is probably going to be hit or miss for someone spotting you, in the city, it's all about concealment, camoflauge you and your equipement, hide you fire etc.

Getting high up makes sure it is harder to find you since Zeds or Raiders will have to put in extra effort to find you. I'd think that sleeping on the second floor of say a house or something would hide you good, it leaves very little option for escape which is obviously pretty bad. Frankly Its all how you feel about it, do you want to be high up with no way out? Or Low down where everyone can see you but you can make a quick escape."
Being high up does not at all preclude avenues for escape. You just need to choose the right location and do a thorough recon of it in advance so that you can plan your escape routes accordingly.
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Dangerous_D
Dangerous_D
118. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 28 2012, 2:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 28 2012, 2:39 AM EDT
Planning and time is every thing you can have the best plan to get away one little snag can **** it up but if you have a plan but also have time to rethink it, it could be the difference between life and death Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
119. RE: sleeping alone in a town or city
Apr 28 2012, 2:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 28 2012, 2:50 AM EDT
"Planning and time is every thing you can have the best plan to get away one little snag can **** it up but if you have a plan but also have time to rethink it, it could be the difference between life and death"
Exactly. Which is also why you should always have a Plan B and, where possible, a Plan C, D E and F. Rethinking a plan on the fly may be necessary at times, no doubt about that, but having alternative options already in mind will probably be safer.
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