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IBeforeOthers |
Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 3:14 PM EDT
Saw the other thread but that kid was an idiot.So, the problem for all of us under 18 is most of the time weapons. For those of us who have parents who are ex-military or live in the country, this isn't as much of an issue. Getting access to tools and such are easier and the odd firearm or two if your parents will allow you. But for those who can't get a hold of these items, what can you get to protect yourself? Well there's a few answers. You can either A) Make your own. B) Buy tools that don't require a certain age. or C) IMPROVISE. A) Make your own. As a teen who enjoys making their own weapons, I find if you know what you're doing, it can be a lot more helpful to those who can't purchase true weapons. At first it can be hard starting out but with enough time spent trying ideas and reading what others have made, you start to realize how pretty much anything can be turned into a suitable weapon. I for one am a fan of JB Weld and Electric Tape. IF you have an idea of what metal you're dealing with JB Weld can make somewhat of a "weld" holding two or more pieces of metal together to a rather decent result. It is mostly meant for iron or steel but the occasional off metal can be somewhat "welded". Also, electric tape can be used to hold together two objects, metal or otherwise, or hold an object inside another. B) Buying tools in which don't require a set age. To name a few, these are tools which can either be modified or used as is to be effective as a weapon: -Crowbar. In most places you can buy one no questions asked and, with a good amount of practice, it can be a decent bludgeon weapon. -Nail bat. It's a bat with nails in it. Nothing illegal about buying a baseball bat and nails. Just don't do it at the same time or you may get some odd looks. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?
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IBeforeOthers |
1. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 3:21 PM EDT
Cont.-Shovel. While not all can be truly effective, there are some which can be heated and flattened(with supervision) and sharpened at the edges for a makeshift pole arm. Again, NOT ALL SHOVELS WILL BE EFFECTIVE IN THIS WAY. Now to try and keep this short I'll move on. C) IMPROVISE. By far the easiest and less likely to get you in trouble, improvising is recommended for those who have no other options. For instance, you can take a large branch, whittle it down to a smooth(ish) pole, sharpen it, and use ashes or a fire to burn and harden the tip. Have some kind of dirt or sand near you so the entire stick doesn't go up in flames. Also any type of metal piping can be used to defend yourself, though some will last and be effecting less than others. So, what kind of weapons have you made? What have you bought without needing an ID? What improvised weapons have you come up with? Post with your designs or stories to share with those who are looking for answers to their unfortunate circumstances. Also, if you can add pictures or instructions on what you've made for those new and old to improv./ hand-made weapons. It can never hurt to learn new things. WARNING: DO NOT POST ON HOW TO MAKE FIREARMS OR EXPLOSIVES. THIS IS HIGHLY DANGEROUS AND CAN GET YOU EASILY KILLED NO MATTER THE AGE. Do you find this valuable? |
Sharkai |
2. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 3:34 PM EDT
I turned an old chairleg into a prybar. It's maybe foot and half long made of steel. One end is covered in duct tape and the ends are pretty sharp. The other end is flattened and sharpened a bit.I don't see the point in putting nails in a baseball bat. You're weakening the wood and the nails can get stuck in stuff. It's also harder to explain than a baseball bat as you have an excuse for that. Do you find this valuable? |
GGTW21 |
3. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 3:41 PM EDT
Oh the things I could give you ideas for...... but my wife is looking over my shoulder and threatening me with...well nevermind that part, so the short of it is...I'm not being allowed to give you ideas or write down the stuff I've made. Hopefully one of the other mad genius's here can help you.
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IBeforeOthers |
4. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 3:44 PM EDT
I for one am pretty set as of now though I plan on getting a few new toys. :P But being the little devil child I am I love hearing new ideas. I've got a picture of my warhammer(nicknamed The Sledge) on my profile and I've made a few other little toys. Plan on either buying a Bushman Knife for the end of a pole for a long range melee spear or buying a nifty little SKS with the bayonet.
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GGTW21 |
5. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 3:53 PM EDT
save up the cash and go for the AK-47
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IBeforeOthers |
6. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 3:55 PM EDT
"save up the cash and go for the AK-47"I would but the thing is I have 200 bucks when I go to Texas which is all I'd be aloud to use towards it and a good Chinese SKS can be just as good as an AK. Also an SKS with an 18" bayonet spike is a lot better for CQC than an AK with a 13" knife bayonet. Do you find this valuable? |
JunkCollector |
7. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 4:08 PM EDT
Find a nice person who will test your character, and teach you basics of a gun that when or if shift happens they will loan you a gun. I personally wouldn't turn a kid down to use a gun, but I am going to make sure he or she isn't a moron. I took a look at "The Sledge", it's a good build. You could put enough in the handle to create a large survival kit. It would give you less of a need for a BOB, because you could store every thing you would need for a couple of days in your sledge. I like the hatchets with a knife in the handle, from Gerber, S&W, and other producers. This gives you a hatchet and a knife to work with. Do you find this valuable? |
VagabondVance |
8. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 4:10 PM EDT
" Also an SKS with an 18" bayonet spike is a lot better for CQC than an AK with a 13" knife bayonet."Girth matters too, your going to want something thick made out of high quality steel, not some 440C-heapo knock-ofto. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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IBeforeOthers |
9. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 4:36 PM EDT
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"Find a nice person who will test your character, and teach you basics of a gun that when or if shift happens they will loan you a gun. I personally wouldn't turn a kid down to use a gun, but I am going to make sure he or she isn't a moron.Thanks on the compliment :P and to be honest I built it based on Timber's Warhammer minus the spike and with the addition of two smaller squares to condense the force of the swing. I was planning on filling it with some matches, maybe a few cotton balls(to help start a fire or stop bleeding), a thin flashlight and maybe a small little knife. Also I agree on what you said about firearms. I would give someone a weapon or two if they asked but if they tried to take them from me I would make them regret it. Edit: They should also at least have minor knowledge in using firearms in a combat situation. There's a big difference between standing on a range and firing on the move while they're shooting back. Do you find this valuable? |
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IBeforeOthers |
10. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 4:38 PM EDT
"Girth matters too, your going to want something thick made out of high quality steel, not some 440C-heapo knock-ofto. "The Chinese SKS I prefer since they can be modified to take AK mags making it a lot simpler to find quality mags. Unless you get a type 56 military version they are made very poorly. And while I agree 440C can be cheap steel some companies can heat treat it into a pretty sturdy blade. Do you find this valuable? |
oldannyboy37 |
11. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 5:22 PM EDT
I personally think that depending on the region and what yo can convince your parents of you might be able to get some halfway decent firearms.I've been putting money towards guns since I was a young child. As long as you demonstrate maturity and safety I bet you can convince your parents to let you spend more money. My father raised me shooting but the deciding point for allowing me to spend money was that I showed an understanding that it was an investment. I'll comment more on improvison and attainable weapons later. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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IBeforeOthers |
12. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 5:26 PM EDT
"I personally think that depending on the region and what yo can convince your parents of you might be able to get some halfway decent firearms.I personally have a Ruger P95 9mm with stainless steel slide and a Winchester 1200 police custom 12 ga. with Winchester proof steel. This is more for those with very protective parents or who live in areas where they cannot get such items. A firearm or two are nice but then again ammo runs out and you'll also need some sort of backup. Do you find this valuable? |
Sharpie41 |
13. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 6:56 PM EDT
"The Chinese SKS I prefer since they can be modified to take AK mags making it a lot simpler to find quality mags. Unless you get a type 56 military version they are made very poorly. And while I agree 440C can be cheap steel some companies can heat treat it into a pretty sturdy blade."I've got a Russkie SKS, I love it, maybe take a look at a Russian SKS Do you find this valuable? |
toxic_shock |
14. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 7:34 PM EDT
I'll agree with what ODB and Junk Collector said concerning firearms. If the minor demonstrates their responsibility, they shouldn't have a problem with getting a family member or close friend to teach them about firearms and allow them to use firearms.In the cases in which the parents are dead set on not allowing their kids near guns, often there are reasons besides the parent being over-protective. In these cases the minor needs to shape up if they want firearm privileges. In the cases where the parent is just being paranoid, I would say improvising or buying tools is best. If the parents are worried about guns, then find the kid making his own weapons in the garage, they are likely to get even more worried. A baseball bat is a good choice here, sans nails. I think teens ought to be more worried about the other things that go with survival, such as non perishable food, proper clothing and survival gear. Its not as exciting as guns are, but its the kind of stuff more likely to be needed in the event of a disaster. Do you find this valuable? |
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toxic_shock |
15. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 7:37 PM EDT
The SKS is a great weapon. I am down to one, a Yugo 59/66. An excellent carbine in an excellent cartridge, perfect for those on a budget. Ammo is cheap too, which aids in affordable practice. Practicing often and becoming proficient with an SKS beats buying a $1000 gun you can't afford to shoot.
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IBeforeOthers |
16. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 6 2011, 7:48 PM EDT
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"The SKS is a great weapon. I am down to one, a Yugo 59/66. An excellent carbine in an excellent cartridge, perfect for those on a budget. Ammo is cheap too, which aids in affordable practice. Practicing often and becoming proficient with an SKS beats buying a $1000 gun you can't afford to shoot."I agree with you whole heartedly. TBH I think the Yugos are a good amount cheaper and I don't really mind top loading rifles with a decent capacity since you have to load the mag anyway once you've run them dry. Do you find this valuable? |
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IBeforeOthers |
17. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 7 2011, 1:13 PM EDT
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Update: New weapon. Get (1 or 2) inch thick wooden rods(good wood if you want it to last) about 3-4 inches long. Use a hammer and nails to put 3 nails for each rod approx. 1/2-3/4 inches apart to give your fingers space to grip. While not effective against zombies, these spike knuckle-like weapons could be decent enough in an extremely close quarters fight with raiders. Also: if using rusty nails to increase damage done, wrap the rod and base of nails with electrical tape to protect yourself from rust poisoning. (Update: This will require some strong good lengthed nails or the effect will be minimal. Go for 3-4 inch nails if possible.) Do you find this valuable? |
SovietPrince |
18. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 7 2011, 8:41 PM EDT
"save up the cash and go for the AK-47"with this market, ain't nobody finding a GOOD akm for less than 600. Do you find this valuable? |
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SFShadowWraith |
19. RE: Teens and Weapons.
Sep 8 2011, 7:35 AM EDT
While I can't get guns, at Canadian Tire they have hatchets and a freind of mine gives me lots of swords, which I have sharpened.
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