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Winchester 1887
Sep 15 2011, 4:05 PM EDT
| Post edited: Sep 16 2011, 8:20 PM EDT
This is a nice 12 or 10 guage lever action shotgun. It holds five rounds at a time in a tubular magazine. It was featured in various movies and video games, as well as television. It was black powder. The 1901 was a later, 10 gauge only model using smokeless powder. What do you say to this? I don't know much about it, but it looks alright. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?
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1. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 15 2011, 5:20 PM EDT
"This is a nice 12 or 10 guage pump action shotgun. It holds five rounds at a time in a tubular magazine. It was featured in various movies and video games, as well as television. It was black powder. The 1901 was a later, 10 gauge only model using smokeless powder.Ehh.......They were lever action guns not pumps Rather complicated design not known for good handling. Not going to get even a shooter for under a $1000 I used to own one and was deadly apparent why pump shotguns were made The ChiComs make a copy but I've read some are junk....If you live where you can't own a pump probably better off with a double with ejectors and learn how to load faster 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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2. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 15 2011, 5:26 PM EDT
"Ehh.......They were lever action guns not pumpsI think he meant 1897 Do you find this valuable? |
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3. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 15 2011, 6:14 PM EDT
"I think he meant 1897"Well, he made reference to the 1901, which was another lever-action. But, anyway, like Fila said, they're lever-actions, not pumps. And, based on my experiences holding one, it doesn't seem especially easy to point. A Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 would probably serve you better. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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4. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 15 2011, 6:39 PM EDT
"This is a nice 12 or 10 guage pump action shotgun. It holds five rounds at a time in a tubular magazine. It was featured in various movies and video games, as well as television. It was black powder. The 1901 was a later, 10 gauge only model using smokeless powder.You're talking about the 1887 in terms of mechanics, but the pump action was the 1897, which was only released in smokeless and was somewhat replaced by the later hammerless designs. The main boon for the 1887 on the ZSDW is that it's a decent option for those with restrictive gun laws. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 16 2011, 7:42 AM EDT
Befor the 1897 pump Winchester made the 1893 pump whih was available in 12 ga. only [ 1897 was 12 and 16] The 1893 resembles the later 1897 but was made for 2 1.2 inch blackpowder shells and was not suitable for the 2 3/4 smokeless powder ones so the stronger 1897 was devoloped. Only about 30,000 1893's were made in it's 4 years of production. Don't know if true but I have read that winchester took many back in exchange for 1897s. ...Today a 1893 is kind of a rare gun, I have a first year Riot one The 1897 was one of Winchester's most succesful shotguns with over a million made and in production for 60 years. The US military used them from befor WWI till Vietnam They are really great shotguns and very dependable and well made of course. Having an exposed hammer they are more dangerous then other designs and more prone to accidental discharge , I once blew a hole in the wall of my house with one as I unloaded it [ Ran TV cable through the hole so OK] I've had a few over the years and still have my Grandfathers old Riot one he used to carry...and it is as effective now as it was when new in 1919 Always wanted a trench 1897 but hard to find one at a good price and plenty of fakes out there.Last one I saw was over $2,000 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 16 2011, 1:36 PM EDT
How's the action? I hear they're a little rougher than modern hammerless designs.
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7. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 16 2011, 8:22 PM EDT
I meant to say lever action...
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8. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 16 2011, 8:22 PM EDT
Thanks for the information. I didn't figure it was all that great. Just something I found on the internet.
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9. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 17 2011, 2:26 PM EDT
"How's the action? I hear they're a little rougher than modern hammerless designs."Hard to tell. Maybe a little bit but not really makes much difference to me because I've learned to briskly pump the action on a pump shotgun. It does have only one action bar but doesn't seem to affect anthing though I have read that shotguns with single action bars tend to "rack" since backward pressure isn't equal...Don't know. 1897 are known for being tough reliable shotguns. Between it and the model 12 Winchester pretty much had the pump shotgun market zipped up till Remington brought out the 870 in the 1950s I hunted for a few years with an 1897 and it killed many geese and ducks . It had lost it's ejector but I learned to just tip the gun to the right when I pumped it and the the spent shell would fall out. To unload an 1897 you just press two "buttons" on the side and all the shells shoot out the magazine , easier to load too as it doesn't have a lifter like most other pumps you have to push up, just slide the shells into the mag. tube I have an old Marlin hammer pump shotgun also and it's action seems a little smoother [ just tried them] but it has a longer reciever and throw. It looks like a more complicated shotgun then a 1897 and you don't see to many as I guess most people bought the winchester Do you find this valuable? |
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10. RE: Winchester 1887
Sep 17 2011, 3:55 PM EDT
Well, Mossberg 500s were single bar and they run pretty well. I believe first-run Ithaca 37s were too. I didn't know about the mag cutoff and unloading feature though. That's really neat.
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