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ForsakenJames	Improvised and Readily Available Weapons Sep 30 2011, 8:26 AM EDT The way I see it, standard firearms are not readily available to everyone. Therefore, I would suggest learning how to create and utilise improvised weapons. First off is a makeshift grenade using rope, a can of spray (eg, Axe deodorant or air freshener) and a lighter. All of which are readily available from many stores around the world. Tape a sizeable piece of string, longe enough that it can be lit and the grenade thrown before the fire reaches the pressurized spray and blows up. Simply light the rope with the ligter, and throw it. DO NOT, under ANY circumstances, try to 'cook' the grenade. Throw it right away. Using similar tools, one can also make an improvised flamethrower. Just take a similar spray, hold it at arms' length in front of you, and spray over the lighter. Stepping away from the zombie horde is also a good idea, to avoid being lunged at by a particular desperate zombie. You can also find hunting equipment along the lines of Crossbows, Bow-and-Arrow, and even hunting rifles in the hunting section of your local mall (if there is one). However, don't count on finding anything there, they'd be priority-one objectives for a scavenger. As a final word, don't take anything for granted! Consider every possibility! This page may be updated. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
brandon_a_boyer	1. RE: Improvised and Readily Available Weapons Sep 30 2011, 10:22 AM EDT Welcome to the Zombie Survival Wiki. I would like to direct your attention to the search bar in the upper right of the homepage. You can use this to look up threads on any subject, for example, there are quite a few threads concerning things like firearms, shelters, and improvised weaponry. You seem like a intelligent individual, so I'm sure that you'll be able to use this tool to it's full extents. Now for my opinion on your post. I agree that it's important to contemplate improvised weaponry. It is important to think about what would and would not actually work, and be effective, instead of just taking an idea that we saw used in a movie/video game and just assuming that it would be effective enough to use in real life. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
renet76	2. RE: Improvised and Readily Available Weapons Oct 1 2011, 12:47 AM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 1 2011, 1:19 AM EDT I don't want to come across negative or anything but i have to add a couple of things Sure look out for other alternatives but think real hard on how effective they really are going to be it can take a long time for a spray can to build up enough pressure to explode and depending on how volatile the contents of the can are it will also have an effect on the force of the explosion If you use a full can of spray it will hardly do any thing as there is no room for volatile gases to build up pressure but a one that is nearly empty will go "bang"in a much more dramatic way. Using a lighter in front of a spray can while it works one must ask is the risk worth it? also how effective will it be against the undead that feel no pain. You may suddenly find a zombie you just set on fire giving you a cuddle You are on the right track by looking around you to see what is around that you could use if you had to but please be careful as we would hate to hear of a ZSDW member harming themselves or other Innocent people or being charged by the police because they were trying to make bombs some times thing just should not be made or tried Welcome to the site read up learn and survive those pesky ZEDS Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ForsakenJames	3. RE: Improvised and Readily Available Weapons Oct 1 2011, 12:17 PM EDT For the record, I didn't take this out of a movie or videogame. I honestly came up with this idea out of the blue. Thanks for your replies, and while I'm aware that the undead do not feel pain (assuming we're talking about the reanimated dead and not the "28-days-later" type Zeds"), we can logically assume that fire would burn the already-rotting and damaged skin to the point where it would melt that part off, or at the very least, hinder the limb's usage. So it's not an end-all superweapon, but it has its uses. Thanks for your feedback. I also did not know that an empty can of spray would blow up better than a full one. (this brings up a new strategy of using the improvised flamer then tossing it as a grenade afterwords). Post reply Do you find this valuable?
brandon_a_boyer	4. RE: Improvised and Readily Available Weapons Oct 1 2011, 2:00 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 1 2011, 2:00 PM EDT "For the record, I didn't take this out of a movie or videogame. I honestly came up with this idea out of the blue. Thanks for your replies, and while I'm aware that the undead do not feel pain (assuming we're talking about the reanimated dead and not the "28-days-later" type Zeds"), we can logically assume that fire would burn the already-rotting and damaged skin to the point where it would melt that part off, or at the very least, hinder the limb's usage. So it's not an end-all superweapon, but it has its uses. Thanks for your feedback. I also did not know that an empty can of spray would blow up better than a full one. (this brings up a new strategy of using the improvised flamer then tossing it as a grenade afterwords)." I'll just come out and say this plainly then. The Grenade idea isn't going to work, There is too much variance in how long it would take the can to explode and once it does explode it may not be very effective. You'd be better off ripping off a table leg and using it was a weapon than you would be with these two ideas. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
epic_epicness	5. RE: Improvised and Readily Available Weapons Oct 1 2011, 3:30 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 1 2011, 3:30 PM EDT "I'll just come out and say this plainly then. The Grenade idea isn't going to work, There is too much variance in how long it would take the can to explode and once it does explode it may not be very effective. You'd be better off ripping off a table leg and using it was a weapon than you would be with these two ideas." in sports you learn to swing a bat, Kendo a sword. in boyscout you lean to shoot. none of this will teach you ANYTHING about explosives. the best thing you can do if you feel this is a good idea is try to clean a loaded gun by pointing it at your face and do a "functions check". Post reply Do you find this valuable?
chitoryu12	6. RE: Improvised and Readily Available Weapons Oct 1 2011, 5:22 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 1 2011, 5:22 PM EDT Improvised grenade: I would not risk it. Even military grenades mass produced in a factory are not cook-safe because they have too much variance in fuse times. A homemade spray can bomb can have so much variance that they're barely safe to even build, let alone try and use. There's not a small chance of it blowing in mid-air or failing to detonate. If you've seen a spray bomb before, you'd know that unless it's exploding in your hand there's not much it'll do beyond distract. Hairspray flamethrower: This has been seen in many places, and against any kind of pain-ignoring enemy it is utterly useless. Fire in general takes a very long time to kill an enemy that won't feel the pain and the fire you'll produce is not good for anything more than setting their hair or clothes alight or stunning a human enemy. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
chitoryu12	7. RE: Improvised and Readily Available Weapons Oct 1 2011, 5:26 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 1 2011, 5:26 PM EDT Continuing with explosives, this site in general is very much against building homemade bombs and incendiary devices because demolitions is a very exact science that requires far more training, practical experience, and classroom instruction (as well as a good knowledge of chemistry) to be safely done by untrained randoms on the internet. While many would-be pyros and bomb builders believe that their internet guides and high school chemistry is a good enough substitute and a series of working bombs is "proof" of their "talent", actually learning the subject in a proper setting would teach them that what they're doing is stupidly dangerous; every bomb made of components not designed to explode when put together is a risk you're taking from the mixing process to the lighting. They are unpredictable and deadly in the wrong (read: non-professional) hands. I have never once met an amateur pyrotechnician who supported building bombs at home when they grew up and got some sense. There have been far too many teenagers and drunk college kids setting themselves on fire when they spill gasoline while filling a Molotov or lost a hand (or worse) when their homemade grenade blew up in their hand or in front of their face. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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