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Xemnasthe3rd |
Getting onto the Actual Island?
Oct 1 2011, 11:17 PM EDT
I am posting this on Pedro's plan, though this could apply to anyone with a plan a bit like Pedro's. The thing is, the general plan is that everyone in on the plan will catch a plane to the island when the first sign of disaster occurs. However, if you are unable to catch a plane, but make it to the actual island, how would you somehow get Pedro or the leader to get you transport onto the island? Also, in a plan like Pedro's, how could you prove you are on the AGL?Anything? Do you find this valuable?
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PedroAsani |
1. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Nov 19 2011, 5:57 PM EST
Sorry for the late reply. I suck at checking for new threads on my pages.Anyway, I wouldn't transport you to the island. That's up to you. But if you make it to the gate, you get in. Proving who you are? Well I doubt there will be many imposters with the foresight to imitate someone on the AGL. However, I may come up with some kind of verification for this. I'll post back when I have thought about it a little more. Do you find this valuable? |
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Xemnasthe3rd |
2. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 12 2012, 5:59 PM EDT
Sorry for the extremely late reply, since this thread was posted a couple months ago. I was thinking that a person from the ZSDW might have the foresight to pose as one of us. I'm not saying we are all treacherous bastards, but post Zack, people are desperate and may do anything for their survival.I was thinking that to prove who you are, we have like a ZSDW member card like Marsden once suggested. Or a code that proves who you are. Just a general idea about what you could do. Do you find this valuable? |
Zee-Man |
3. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 12 2012, 6:28 PM EDT
Hiya, my name is Xemasthe3rd? Nah, Ill stick with Zee-Man, its a good name already. Someone try to be a Zee-Man imposter? Well, I would like to see that. First they are going to have to speak like me. Then they are going to have to have several bookfulls of knowledge with which they are ready to act.Imposter: Hi, I am Zee-Man from ZSDW Pedro: Oh great, would you mind laying out the plans for a methane digester? The crew is waiting over there. Imposter: Ummm, ummmm, ummmm Pedro: I see you are not really interested in do that today. How about working on the wood gasifier plant instead? Imposter: Ummmmm Pedro: I see. OK, the kids over there are ready to make some bricks, mind showing them how? Imposter: Maybe I should go for a swim? Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
4. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 12 2012, 7:08 PM EDT
"Hiya, my name is Xemasthe3rd? Nah, Ill stick with Zee-Man, its a good name already. Someone try to be a Zee-Man imposter? Well, I would like to see that. First they are going to have to speak like me. Then they are going to have to have several bookfulls of knowledge with which they are ready to act.Actually, that is an accurate point. The AGL is partly skills based, with expertise in those areas deemed quite valuable. So anyone attempting to get in would need knowledge of those skills in order to avoid getting found out. The other side of it is, what would the imposter do if the original shows up? Do you find this valuable? |
RainofMails |
5. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 12 2012, 7:23 PM EDT
What would the original do if the imposter showed up weeks earlier and had become a valued member of the group?
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Xemnasthe3rd |
6. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 12 2012, 9:02 PM EDT
"Actually, that is an accurate point. The AGL is partly skills based, with expertise in those areas deemed quite valuable. So anyone attempting to get in would need knowledge of those skills in order to avoid getting found out.Well, Pedro, I guess when I said impersonating, I meant he KILLED you first and then decided to impersonate you..... But I can see what you guys mean. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
7. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 12 2012, 10:34 PM EDT
"What would the original do if the imposter showed up weeks earlier and had become a valued member of the group?"Valued member would mean skilled. So from my end, they could probably stay, but there would be trust issues. So they would need to be convincing in their story of why they conned their way in instead of being honest and upfront in the first place. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
8. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 12 2012, 10:34 PM EDT
"Well, Pedro, I guess when I said impersonating, I meant he KILLED you first and then decided to impersonate you.....From that point, how would we ever find out? Do you find this valuable? |
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RainofMails |
9. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 12:14 AM EDT
No I mean, if some guys turns up and says "I'm guy X on your list" and then you ask him about guy X's specialties and he actually knows about that stuff, why would you believe the real guy X when he shows up? Somebody already proved they were guy X.
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Xemnasthe3rd |
10. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 12:20 AM EDT
Hmmm, I doubt there is much you can do about that. You could try to get in anyway, although you wouldn't be thought to be Guy X. I guess one way we could test is to make the person log in to their ZSDW account. But the Internet may not be up, and there may not be computers and all.... Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
11. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 1:36 AM EDT
"No I mean, if some guys turns up and says "I'm guy X on your list" and then you ask him about guy X's specialties and he actually knows about that stuff, why would you believe the real guy X when he shows up? Somebody already proved they were guy X."Both would need to prove who they were. Not sure how to do that, and from the skills perspective, it doesn't matter who is on the list, it's all about who can do the job the best. From a security perspective, I would want to know which one is lying because having someone that deceptive in the group for so long would be a real shock. Keeping up a cover like that is tough work. Few people are really capable of it. Things would slip out during casual conversation that didn't mesh. As for what the real person would do, I have no idea. I don't control that. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
12. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 1:44 AM EDT
"Hmmm,What is more likely is that once the location has been selected and construction is underway, I will PM people on here. I won't be making the final location known. Do you find this valuable? |
shadowmancer |
13. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 1:56 AM EDT
| Post edited: Mar 13 2012, 2:25 AM EDT
Mwahaha I can take Zee-Man’s place mwahahah all I need is a mask mwahahahha, they’ll never know. The only thing that could foil my plan is if the real Zee-Man had Photo ID on him, but what are the odds. LOL all kidding aside the idea of identity theift in a post apoc world .... interesting.Seriously would this island be located in the ocean or a small lake because I can see a few difficulties in navigating to an island in the ocean or on the great lakes. What time of year would they be going because the currents are way different in say July from November. Without power the navigational beacons will fail. After the first storm season I doubt the beacons, hazard markers and modern navigation tools would still work or be in place. GPS may work after Z day but for how long? All waterbourn GPS i've encountered just show a stream of cords and an arrow for direction, but you need cords to program it. The currents would drive you way off course at night if you can’t navigate properly. A compass and clock only gets you so far in plotting a course. An astrolabe and sextant are assets but still I predict many lost souls in the sea at night without years of experience. If you are coast hugging the navigational difficulties aren't as important because your land adjacent, but the hazards are still high you are mostly blind at night and likely to wreck. There will be very few functional lighthouses to warn of waterbourn dangers. Automated self powered Soviet era lighthouses with radioisotope thermoelectric generators will still be working for years until the bulbs blow, but those are in the high artic. If you elect to turn off power or to take down the sails ancoring in deep water will not stop your boat from drifting, it will only slow it slightly. You may become completely lost by the time you wake up, and on a calm clear night it is nearly impossible to notice the drift as there are no points of reference. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
14. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 10:14 AM EDT
"Mwahaha I can take Zee-Man’s place mwahahah all I need is a mask mwahahahha, they’ll never know. The only thing that could foil my plan is if the real Zee-Man had Photo ID on him, but what are the odds. LOL all kidding aside the idea of identity theift in a post apoc world .... interesting."One discussion thread dealt with people assuming new identities, using the apocalypse to shed their past. Mostly it was expected to be criminals, but I believe there are a lot of people who would take the opportunity to reinvent themselves. New name, new life. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
15. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 10:30 AM EDT
"Seriously would this island be located in the ocean or a small lake because I can see a few difficulties in navigating to an island in the ocean or on the great lakes. What time of year would they be going because the currents are way different in say July from November. Without power the navigational beacons will fail. After the first storm season I doubt the beacons, hazard markers and modern navigation tools would still work or be in place. GPS may work after Z day but for how long? All waterbourn GPS i've encountered just show a stream of cords and an arrow for direction, but you need cords to program it. The currents would drive you way off course at night if you can’t navigate properly.Ocean. Best protection from zombies. Do you find this valuable? |
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Zee-Man |
16. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 10:32 AM EDT
"Mwahaha I can take Zee-Man’s place mwahahah all I need is a mask mwahahahha, they’ll never know. The only thing that could foil my plan is if the real Zee-Man had Photo ID on him, but what are the odds. LOL all kidding aside the idea of identity theift in a post apoc world .... interesting.Nah, the moment you got near a wall with a pencil you would give yourself away! Pedro: Hey, what's up with the wall o' text? Wait! You are not Zee-Man you are shadowmancer! You have gotten better at breaking up your paragraphs. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
17. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 10:48 AM EDT
"Nah, the moment you got near a wall with a pencil you would give yourself away!So you are requesting that all entrants to the BOL are subjected to essay questions? Truly that would make the post-apocalyptic nightmare complete for all involved. Especially if they had to write them during the physical examination, then read them out to the group. "If you would please remove your clothing, and lift each arm above your head in turn. Thank you. Now, take theis paper and pen, and give me two thousand words on the Spinning Jenny. You need to read this out to the group, and you will be marked on spelling, punctuation and grammar afterwards." And then I would have to mark the damn things. Ugh. Do you find this valuable? |
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Zee-Man |
18. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 11:23 AM EDT
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So, you are requesting that all entrants, to the BOL, are subjected to essay questions? Truly, that would make the post-apocalyptic nightmare complete for all involved. Specially if they had to write them during the physical examination, then read them out to the group."If you would, please remove your clothing_ and lift each arm above your head, in turn. I thank you. Now, take this paper and pen. Give me two thousand words on the Spinning Jenny. You need [WC, must?] to read this out to the group. You will be marked on spelling, punctuation and grammar afterwards." And then, I would have to mark the damn things. Ugh! Spelling 90% Punctuation 30% Grammar 50% It is a good thing we are informal here. I am sure I would do no better without computerized editing ability. Do you find this valuable? |
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Zee-Man |
19. RE: Getting onto the Actual Island?
Mar 13 2012, 11:37 AM EDT
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EDIT: Originally this post had a link to a document which was a copy and paste from a wikipedia article. Having served its purpose for the joke I have removed both the link and the document.Damn it! It has only 1712 words. I guess that I'm going swimming. Do you find this valuable? |
