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places to hole up
Oct 6 2011, 11:48 AM EDT
Excellent places would be somewhere with lots of food and water easily accessible inside,weapons and ammo inside,and idea lookout points.A good place can be a Folgers,a Wal-Mart if the doors are barricaded,or similar place.
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1. RE: places to hole up
Oct 6 2011, 12:08 PM EDT
"Excellent places would be somewhere with lots of food and water easily accessible inside,weapons and ammo inside,and idea lookout points.A good place can be a Folgers,a Wal-Mart if the doors are barricaded,or similar place."Umm idealy the things you mentioned would be great, but going to large stores or stores in general is not a good idea. Take a look around the site and you'll see some people have pretty great plans you can use to help make your own. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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2. RE: places to hole up
Oct 6 2011, 12:54 PM EDT
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The best place to hole up in nine out of ten cases is one's own home. I'll present my argument in list format.1) You know where virtually everything is inside of your home. Most people are capable of navigating within their home in the dark, without an external source of light. Nonresidents do not have this level of familiarity. 2) Your home can be "hardened" and stocked up before sh!t is flung towards the fan, whereas Walmart cannot. It might be stocked up nicely under normal circumstances but a little forethought and preparation trumps stocked store shelves. 3) Odds are that nobody else is targeting SPECIFICALLY your home, because they're thinking about Walmart. You know how many times we see something along the lines of, "When the dead rise I'm heading to Walmart..." in a single month? How would you like to show up at the store, only to be greeted by 20 or 30 equally desperate people who are frantically hoarding canned foods and drinking water? Because of this, most homes will fly under-the-radar once SHTF. 4) Home court advantage - you probably your neighbors and neighborhood pretty well. This presents numerous logistical advantages. A well-prepared home is vastly superior to just about any where else you can run to, short of a secondary location that you have spent more effort to keep better prepared. Real life is not like the movies - you aren't going to find a forgotten bomb shelter and by the time you've made it to the grocery store, it will have long since been picked apart. The only thing you can truly rely upon is your own effort and preparations. Reasons to leave home = topic for next LJ126 article. Thanks for the inspiration. 33 out of 34 found this valuable. Do you? |
chitoryu12 |
3. RE: places to hole up
Oct 6 2011, 4:23 PM EDT
How did it take us this long to get to a Wal-Mart thread?
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JustinBrill |
4. RE: places to hole up
Nov 30 2011, 1:08 PM EST
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So home is the best place to barricade? Thats a ok choice, but not great in my world. I am not a zombie expert, nor do I really believe that the zombie apocalypse could ever happen. I have fantasized about it happening and walked through what I should do and bounced it off all my other buddies and created my own plan though. Here is what I think could/would happen IF zombies actually happened. 1) The virus would be airborne, water infested, in the ground infesting the plant life, even on the wildlife. Everything around you with people/zombies would be infected and the air would be a swamp of zombie flu. If a zombie outbreak actually was to occur, I think transmission of the zombie virus would have to be by more than just bite. More than 50% of Americans own guns, and those who own guns many times have more than one gun. You would get soo many rednecks and "wanna be badasses" running the streets shooting zombies and getting tattoos with the kills marked on them. I think the zombies would last less than a day and never get all that big of a problem unless it was a virus spread airborne. This makes living in the suburbs/city dangerous. Homes not in the middle of no where in these situations may not be good barricades unless you really have enough supplies to hermet crab your way for a few months or so. I personally dont have that much crap in my house at one time. 2) Best base is the middle of no place, with less people, and a independent well/water system independent and not contaminated. In a crazy virus situation, in order for a zombie virus to really get in the epic proportions we think about, the virus would be something soo dangerous that contact with these zombies would be really dangerous. It would be so bad the governments attempts to quarantine it would fail as well. 3) In conclusion, walmart/food store to stock up while its getting bad, then head to middle of no place. 2 out of 11 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: places to hole up
Nov 30 2011, 1:22 PM EST
" You would get soo many rednecks and "wanna be badasses" running the streets shooting zombies and getting tattoos with the kills marked on them. "I suggest you curb the trash talk. We don't bash on any group of people here... 20 out of 23 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: places to hole up
Nov 30 2011, 3:24 PM EST
"I suggest you curb the trash talk. We don't bash on any group of people here..."O gosh, no trash talk intended. Sorry everyone! Lesson learned. I always forget that redneck is an offensive word to some people. Where I come from, its a complement. :P And I would have to give props to all dudes zombie hunting. I could have worded that better perhaps. Thanks Epic Epicness for that Epic point :D 8 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sarcof |
7. RE: places to hole up
Nov 30 2011, 5:50 PM EST
i need to replace this thread
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JunkCollector |
8. RE: places to hole up
Nov 30 2011, 8:54 PM EST
My top 5 are:Home Church Sister's house Hotel (the one I'm thinking is old with keyed doors, and a steel fire door at the top of the outdoor wood stairs). Warehouse I use to work (I know how to get in ans with all steel doors and brick walls should be fine). 2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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9. RE: places to hole up
Nov 30 2011, 10:50 PM EST
I have always wanted to do a church too! Its a huge place and many have brick walls and heavy doors. My church has a lot of glass though. The main doors are solid glass, and the sanctuary is also covered in glass windows. It would be a nightmare trying to board all that up.
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10. RE: places to hole up
Dec 1 2011, 5:31 AM EST
Church might be a good idea, but not right when SHTF. There will be a lot of people turning to religion during a time of panic.
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iamprepared |
11. RE: places to hole up
Dec 9 2011, 9:07 AM EST
Yes holding up in ones own house is good for the short term maybe like a week at max. after that you will need to be moving to an another location, within about a week the dead have likley overran the police and emergency services, the un prepared would have fled to police stations and military bases for comfort. Those who pretend to be prepared will flee to walmart target etc, but a place you really want to look at is a distribution center for one of those chains, they are removed from the population centers usually on a major highway, have back up generators limited doors and windows and are much better stocked that your local walmart
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Frag-12 |
12. RE: places to hole up
Dec 9 2011, 11:01 AM EST
"Church might be a good idea, but not right when SHTF. There will be a lot of people turning to religion during a time of panic. "Like LJ stated, the best place(s) to hole up is in a home you have or someone competent you know prepared whether it is a Bug-in or Bug-out location. Ideally, you want to be living in your permanent Bug-out location and if you can, have back-up locations just in case your current BOL is either on ground zero or it is over ran by living or undead undesirables. A nomadic existence is also an acceptable Bug-out alternative as long as you remain mobile and nimble to relocate camp. Anywhere else is an unnecessary gamble. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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13. RE: places to hole up
Dec 9 2011, 11:31 AM EST
I am personally not a fan of holding up in your own home unless you live not to near to a town. But thats because one of the foremost things in my mind when thinking of zombie apocalypse survival is where there are people there are zombies. Now thinking about this is Wal-mart really a good idea? Not only will Wal-mart be full of zombies, raiders, desperate people or maybe all three. But Wal-marts are never in the middle of nowhere so getting there will most likely not be an easy situation. Stay away from any kind of supercentre. Even though my name is HeldUpInCostco, if you want to live i suggest you don't hold up in Costco. Personally I'm all for going to a cabin at the lake. Get away from people, and bring your fishing gear. 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Frag-12 |
14. RE: places to hole up
Dec 9 2011, 12:04 PM EST
Ideally, you want to live far enough away to make supply runs a day trip but not too far in which you would have to spend the night in town. The idea behind this way of thinking is for both NBC war or being inundated by living or undead refugees. Of course for NBC war, living up wind from the epicenter is better than living down wind.2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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lunit52 |
15. RE: places to hole up
Dec 15 2011, 6:44 PM EST
actually any grocery store that's locked up turns in to a lethal bio-mess after a while.5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Dec 15 2011, 7:00 PM EST
A distribution center does sound pretty attractive, because a lot of people wouldn't recognize what they are. That said... wouldn't they be pretty well crewed when a given disaster happened, and would security not be pretty tight?
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17. RE: places to hole up
Dec 17 2011, 9:20 PM EST
"More than 50% of Americans own guns, and those who own guns many times have more than one gun. You would get soo many rednecks and "wanna be badasses" running the streets shooting zombies and getting tattoos with the kills marked on them."In America maybe! I'm from Australia - guns are very rare - you would really need to be a criminal or involved in illegal activity to own one (unless you were in law enforcement or a farmer etc). So really, the chances of people running around with guns is quite limited. This would involve a lot of close contact with makeshift weaponry, and if infection is caused through bites - would mean it would spread incredibly fast. I don't think it would last less than a day at all. 7 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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BackwoodsJack |
18. RE: places to hole up
Dec 17 2011, 10:25 PM EST
I agree...the best thing to do when the PAW kicks of is to simply bug in. Your own home has major advantages:1-Home field advantage: (think "Home Alone" but with much more deadly intent). Also, you can harden and defend your own turf based off your own familiarity...everything from barricades to building a panic room in the basement/attic. 2-Privacy: like Will Smith in I Am Legend, you can "cave" yourself in and pretty much remain unnoticed if you have to, both to avoid detection by Zeds and bandits/looters. 3-Preparedness: you can stock your home before hand with whatever you can afford/plan for. Food, ammo, emergency water, power (generator)...just about everything you can concievably need can be stockpiled according to your own plan. Conversely, "bugging out" has major disadvantages: 1-Zero hour: plausibly, the worst places to be when ShtF will be heavily populated areas...not only will they be like all-you-can-eat buffets for the Zeds, but in the first stages it will be overcome with panic an chaos. Put a single zombie in the middle of a shopping mall, and the plague will spread exponentially, but that is only after half the living kill the other half trying to get away. 2-Hardening/defense: when is the last time you noticed how many doors your average Walmart or shopping mall has? Or the fact that said doors are completely made out of easily-shatterable, giant glass panes? Even assuming you could harden an entire mall to be safe, its only temporary...as soon as you moved you would have to do it all over again at your new location. 2-Looters/bandits: say what you want., but I have every confidence that there will be a major "Mad Max" factor among the living, even amidst the common Zed enemy. That guy who cut you off in traffic and gave you the finger is the same guy who will loot your house and try to "kidnap" your wife in the post-apocalyptic society. 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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19. RE: places to hole up
Feb 19 2012, 6:49 PM EST
"So home is the best place to barricade? Thats a ok choice, but not great in my world. I am not a zombie expert, nor do I really believe that the zombie apocalypse could ever happen. "You should look up the mutated strain of Malaria that was discovered in Cambodia. Read the article and it might change your mind on the possibility of Zeds. 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
