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Sarcof
20. RE: places to hole up
Feb 21 2012, 4:54 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 21 2012, 4:54 PM EST
I hadn't heard about it. Thanks for the heads up! 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
ZombieElvis
ZombieElvis
21. RE: places to hole up
Feb 21 2012, 7:11 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 21 2012, 7:11 PM EST
Well I have thought about this quite a bit and I tend to think outside the box. So I have one word for you.... Mini-storage. Think about it. Most storage facilities are located in commercial locations to help with the acquisition of food and equipment. The facility always has a single access point with a sturdy/secured access point. They are walled all the way around. The storage units can hold a nearly infinite amount of "stuff". If you are building a survival community you will have rows of shelters. You can also "Bulkhead" the inside in case of a containment breech. If they have cooled units they have backup power generation. I'm saying in a pinch it's not a bad place to start. Plus the units are all over the place. I would prefer to stay in my house for the home field advantage, but if I have to roll out, I need somewhere close, easy to defend, and versatile. 7  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
22. RE: places to hole up
Feb 21 2012, 8:40 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 21 2012, 8:40 PM EST
Hey ZE, you are on to a great idea! Indeed, my Zpoc diary has the location of several self-storage places recorded. They are usually designed as somewhat fortified compounds as you point out. Water acquisition and storage are at a distinct disadvantage, but it doesn't take much to change that.. The palisade fencing is usually pretty stout, but it is a bit short for my standards. It would need to be greatly reinforced to withstand a real seige though.
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BamaChris
BamaChris
23. RE: places to hole up
Apr 12 2012, 3:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2012, 3:53 PM EDT
"Well I have thought about this quite a bit and I tend to think outside the box. So I have one word for you.... Mini-storage. Think about it. Most storage facilities are located in commercial locations to help with the acquisition of food and equipment. The facility always has a single access point with a sturdy/secured access point. They are walled all the way around. The storage units can hold a nearly infinite amount of "stuff". If you are building a survival community you will have rows of shelters. You can also "Bulkhead" the inside in case of a containment breech. If they have cooled units they have backup power generation. I'm saying in a pinch it's not a bad place to start. Plus the units are all over the place. I would prefer to stay in my house for the home field advantage, but if I have to roll out, I need somewhere close, easy to defend, and versatile."
The biggest drawback to a mini storage facility is that you have only one way in or out. Plus those storage rooms never have windows, so you would have to open the main door to see if it was safe to come out.

If you were on a foraging run and away from your main shelter, you might use a mini storage room for a night. But it would be too easy to be trapped and completely impossible to see what is going on without opening the main door and becoming a zombie buffet.
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dizzyditchdigger
dizzyditchdigger
24. RE: places to hole up
Apr 15 2012, 3:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2012, 3:52 AM EDT
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I don't think it would last less than a day at all."
http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html
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dizzyditchdigger
dizzyditchdigger
25. RE: places to hole up
Apr 15 2012, 3:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2012, 3:53 AM EDT
"You should look up the mutated strain of Malaria that was discovered in Cambodia. Read the article and it might change your mind on the possibility of Zeds."
http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html
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dizzyditchdigger
dizzyditchdigger
26. RE: places to hole up
Apr 15 2012, 3:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2012, 3:53 AM EDT
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dizzyditchdigger1
27. RE: places to hole up
Apr 23 2012, 3:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 23 2012, 3:18 AM EDT
7 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Outbreak Would Fail (Quickly)
Let's pretend for a moment that zombies are real (as if half of you weren't already daydreaming about that very thing). Have you noticed how most zombie movies take place only after the apocalypse is in full-swing? By the time we join our survivors, the military and government are already wiped out, and none of the streets are safe.
There's a reason the movie starts there, and not earlier. It's because the early part, where we go from one zombie to millions, doesn't make any sense. If you let the creeping buzzkill of logic into the zombie party, you realize the zombies would all be re-dead long before you even got a chance to fire up that chainsaw motorcycle you've been working on. Why?
#7.
They Have Too Many Natural Predators Do you know why we, as humans, are at the top of the current food chain? Not because we're hard to kill (well, with the exception of Steven Seagal). We're not; we're little more than tasty flesh bags waiting for an errant horn or claw to spill our guts like a meat pinata. No, we're on top simply because we are so absurdly good at killing things ourselves. A good offense, as they say, is the best de-LOOK THERE'S A DUCK! MURDER IT!
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dizzyditchdigger1
28. RE: places to hole up
Apr 23 2012, 3:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 23 2012, 3:19 AM EDT

We are simply too smart and too well-armed for any wild animal to hunt. Now consider the poor zombie. It lacks every single advantage that has kept humanity from being eaten to extinction. It wanders around in the open, it can't use weapons, it can't think or use strategy. It doesn't even have the sense of self preservation to run and hide when it's in danger. And, it's made entirely out of food. It's easy prey for any animal that wants it…If you're saying, "Sure, but it's not like my city is full of bears that can come eat all the zombies," you need to think smaller. Insects are a major pain in the ass for living humans, and in some cases, being able to swat away flies and having an immune system is the only thing keeping us from having our eyes and tongues eaten out by maggots. Zombies in any part of the world with a fly problem are going to be swarming with maggots in short order, meaning that most of their soft tissues will be infested, and their eyes will be very quickly useless.

Not so disgusting now, are they? OK, yeah, but show a little respect.
We'll scale up a bit: In America alone, we have bears, wolves, coyotes and cougars, all of which can put well-armed, thinking, fast-moving humans on the menu, if the conditions are right. To most predators, the "right conditions" are when the animal is weak or infirm, or otherwise generally unable to defend themselves, like a walking corpse. Hell, just think of the millions of stray dogs out there who'll quickly learn that zombies are an easy meal.Now imagine zombie hordes wandering Africa. Between lions and cape buffalo (and hippos, and rhinos, and elephants), we'd finally have a disease that Africa is better suited than the rest of the world to defend itself against.
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ShirleeBabson
29. RE: places to hole up
May 28 2012, 5:15 PM EDT | Post edited: May 28 2012, 5:15 PM EDT
"You should look up the mutated strain of Malaria that was discovered in Cambodia. Read the article and it might change your mind on the possibility of Zeds."
Do you mean this one?

http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/zombies.asp
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rhysnordhoff
30. RE: places to hole up
Jun 3 2012, 1:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 3 2012, 1:44 PM EDT
What about a farm or building site??? 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Allons-y
Allons-y
31. RE: places to hole up
Jun 10 2012, 8:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2012, 8:18 AM EDT
"within about a week the dead have likley overran the police and emergency services, the un prepared would have fled to police stations and military bases for comfort. "
Do you really believe the emergency services are that incompetent?
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BamaChris
BamaChris
32. RE: places to hole up
Jun 10 2012, 9:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2012, 9:55 AM EDT
I prep for catastrophic events that destroy our social order. Whether that is natural disastors, terrorist attacks, or social collapse.

The whole zombie apocalypse is fun as a fantasy. But if you are limiting your preparations to deal with thousands of shambling, slow, unarmed dead people, you are not looking at reality.

Plan for survival of a disastor in general.
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11ACRBlackhorse
11ACRBlackhorse
33. RE: places to hole up
Jun 10 2012, 1:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2012, 1:45 PM EDT
"You would get soo many rednecks and "wanna be badasses" running the streets shooting zombies and getting tattoos with the kills marked on them.
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Since I'm a redneck hillbilly I want to set this strait.

We tattoo things we love like mama, beer, and every sweet thing we date/marry. Not what we kill.
When we kill something we get it stuffed and mounted to place above the TV or on the hood of our truck. With a bumper sticker saying "Got It Done" lmao

If your gonna use a building in town/city. Take over the local jail. That is after you clear it out of any undesirables. As good as any other "not home/BOL"
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JunkCollector
JunkCollector
34. RE: places to hole up
Jun 10 2012, 3:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2012, 3:52 PM EDT
I want an European castle, I got thinking about it a lot while on my honeymoon in France after taking a tour or three of them. I could make one work and work well.

Although we don't have many castles here in the U.S. but it would be cool.
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BamaChris
BamaChris
35. RE: places to hole up
Jun 10 2012, 5:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2012, 5:34 PM EDT
"I want an European castle, I got thinking about it a lot while on my honeymoon in France after taking a tour or three of them. I could make one work and work well.

Although we don't have many castles here in the U.S. but it would be cool. "
It would probably be an excellent place to hole up. The only problem is that if you aren't first you are just part of the horde laying seige.
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premiumwood
36. RE: places to hole up
Jun 11 2012, 9:30 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2012, 9:30 AM EDT
Howdy folks. Stumbled across this site/thread and ended up reading every post.

I've put a lot of thought into what I would do in the event of Z-day and I'm surprised to see that (from what I've found) nobody has even suggested anything close to what my ideal set up would be. Whether its zombies, pirates, disease, dolphins, or any other terrestrial apocalypse; based on my location, I feel it's pretty solid. I welcome suggestions/criticism.

Currently residing in metropolitan city on the pacific coast of Canada i used to think that bugging in to a farm or acreage close by would be my best bet. The climate here is perfect for self sustainable life, however, living on the coast, surrounded by nearly 4 million people, traveling to and finding a suitable/safe bug in location seems unlikely/near impossible. (HERE'S THE FRESH IDEA). Boat. Buy/obtain an open ocean (blue water) SAIL boat. Absolutely no power boats. Get something that's not restricted by gas. Once a suitable boat is obtained sail south down the north American pacific coast. Far enough off shore that like minded people (with unsuitable boats) don't notice or can't follow you. Your target.... San Francisco, Alcatraz. Again, moore a mile off shore at least and send/go in man powered dingy. Take a wide route and approach from (seemingly, to lookouts) the "shore/city".

My thoughts about dealing with the people holed up on Alcatraz is pretty simple. If they're civilized, be civilized. If they're savages, cut my loses and head back to the boat (maintaining wide route). Other than alcatraz... Head south west to the Galapagos islands. Pretty much guaranteed to be (near)safe.
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Sarcof
37. RE: places to hole up
Jun 11 2012, 2:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2012, 2:34 PM EDT
"I want an European castle, I got thinking about it a lot while on my honeymoon in France after taking a tour or three of them. I could make one work and work well.

Although we don't have many castles here in the U.S. but it would be cool. "
Have you ever actually read about castles? Although they are excellent for defense against a human enemy, zombies do not care whether they die. A zombie will simply attack your gates, and not retreat. IF you have enough munitions to kill the assembled horde, then what next? You will have to rely on your own supplies, and amass enough followers to help you defend the walls. Even then, you now have a stone fortress with poor drainage, spartan conditions, and poor shelter. What about in the winter? A castle is drafty, and worse yet, stone, which we all know is quite cold in the winter.
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Antihero94
38. Bugging in your Home
Jun 20 2012, 8:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 20 2012, 8:50 AM EDT
I do not wish to insult anybody, and I do agree with the upsides of bugging into your own home, but the downsides do have to be viewed, such as, if you have neighbors close by they may decide to target you and take your stuff by force, I have no doubts that soccer moms eaten by their very own over protected children will leave on ovens, stoves, various other gas appliances, leading to beautiful houses becoming random fireballs and rampant fires sweeping up entire subdivisions. Also eventually someone will come looting you have to be ready to defend your self at any time.
Depending on your houses material, hundreds of Zed could most likely push an entire wall or section of wall in on itself, the constant moanig and eventual smell would probably make you sick, once public water stopped flowing your waste wouldn't go anywhere, and if you have a septic tank it could literally backup into your house once there is no water, houses don't usually have entrances and exits in conveniant locations for possible Zed attack. Just a few ideas to consider, personally I would hole up in a strip mart with a hardware store, and plant a garden on the roof
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jim200
39. RE: places to hole up
Jul 4 2012, 10:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 10 2012, 11:04 PM EDT
"Excellent places would be somewhere with lots of food and water easily accessible inside,weapons and ammo inside,and idea lookout points.A good place can be a Folgers,a Wal-Mart if the doors are barricaded,or similar place."
Living on the roof of a cvs would not be so bad. And not to desirable to raiders.
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