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Andre_lobo
Andre_lobo
Thermite
Oct 12 2011, 5:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 12 2011, 5:44 PM EDT
Can anyone think of a use for thermite during/after the z-poc?
It is fun and easy to make, but not nearly as usefull as C-4 (wich can also be made at home, but is MUCH harder) or other explosives.
Please share any ideas.
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badderthanbond
badderthanbond
1. RE: Thermite
Oct 12 2011, 8:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 12 2011, 8:01 PM EDT
Making any explosive at home before the apoc sounds like death for the vast majority of people. I think it would be an unnecessary risk and in most cases not be much of a payoff. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
BigLoki
BigLoki
2. RE: Thermite
Oct 13 2011, 5:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2011, 5:54 AM EDT
Thermite is useful for welding, or for very brash sort of cutting metal, that's about it. Do you find this valuable?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
3. RE: Thermite
Oct 13 2011, 6:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2011, 6:00 AM EDT
or making a hole through an engine block

Anyways. Thermite isnt dangerous. Until you light it.
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epic_epicness
epic_epicness
4. RE: Thermite
Oct 13 2011, 8:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2011, 8:48 AM EDT
"or making a hole through an engine block

Anyways. Thermite isnt dangerous. Until you light it. "
trust me on this, whatever you think was C-4 that you made was not.

thermite on the other hand is really stable and can be used for just about anything.
1. opening stubborn locked doors without much noise.
2. pesky raiders harassing you with an armored vehicle.
3. stryker's comment.
4. cutting cars in half.

the list just keeps on going.
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Zombot
Zombot
5. RE: Thermite
Oct 13 2011, 9:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2011, 9:09 AM EDT
I tried posting this an hour ago, and didn't realize it was sitting here not posting...so here goes again. Now that EE has stolen my number one...

Call the exterminators? Oh, not termites...Thermite.

Getting into places someone didn't want you to. Which I imagine wouldn't be uncommon of some sorts to lock themselves in with some useful supplies and then die, or something along those lines. Call me crazy, but I'd (with a team) be more than happy to investigate locked places, because people usually only lock stuff if there's something worthwhile in it...
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Andre_lobo
Andre_lobo
6. RE: Thermite
Oct 13 2011, 6:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2011, 6:27 PM EDT
"trust me on this, whatever you think was C-4 that you made was not.
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I did not try to make C-4 at home, just said it could be done, if you have a lot of free time, experience with chemicals, the right ingredients an maybe some extra body parts. I DO NOT THINK ANYONE SHOULD TRY TO MAKE EXPLOSIVES AT HOME. IF YOU HAD THAT IDEA PLEASE RECONSIDER!
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
7. RE: Thermite
Oct 14 2011, 1:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 14 2011, 1:06 AM EDT
Thermite is pretty Useful stuff. You can perform crude welds and cuts with it, disable vehicles and very effectively dispose of a body. It's also the best firestarter you could ever want.

As far as making C4, it'd be a waste of time. You could make barrels of ANFO in the time it takes to make C4 and it's no more difficult to detonate.
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duterfel
duterfel
8. RE: Thermite
Oct 14 2011, 2:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 14 2011, 2:08 AM EDT
I've made thermite before. It's not that hard to do and the finished produce is very stable. Thermite can actually be quite hard to ignite. You need magnesium or a blowtorch to start the reaction.

The metallic compound burns at about 2200 degrees C. The primary ingrediants are more than readily available. I think you could use thermite to incinerate a lot of undead without wasting any gas or diesel or wood.

This $hit will burn through anything...so it's like having the key to the city. Melt through doors, locks, bars, vaults...anything. I also think it would be a lovely additive to simple pipe bombs or IED's.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
9. RE: Thermite
Oct 14 2011, 4:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 14 2011, 4:01 AM EDT
It wouldn't be effective in pipe bombs or IED's, you'd be better off just adding more shrapnel.

Blowtorches are hit or miss, even magnesium isn't consistent, realistically the best thing to use is a high temperature starting powder.
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epic_epicness
epic_epicness
10. RE: Thermite
Oct 14 2011, 4:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 14 2011, 4:41 AM EDT
"It wouldn't be effective in pipe bombs or IED's, you'd be better off just adding more shrapnel.
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not exactly, It was used for a short while in anti tank rounds in a 2 stage configuration until incindiary munitions were prohibited by geneva convention.
it was extremely effective but it only serves one purpose.
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duterfel
duterfel
11. RE: Thermite
Oct 15 2011, 3:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 15 2011, 3:20 AM EDT
"not exactly, It was used for a short while in anti tank rounds in a 2 stage configuration until incindiary munitions were prohibited by geneva convention.
it was extremely effective but it only serves one purpose. "
Oh I know. High explosives generate more than enough heat to ignite thermite. It's way more effective than added shrapnel IMO.

Thermite and thermate are awsome when used properly.

Brandon...magnesium and blow torches work just fine...and they are commonly available to everyone...unlike "starting powder".
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
12. RE: Thermite
Oct 15 2011, 4:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 15 2011, 4:48 AM EDT
A blow torch isn't the most field expedient method. If you pack a tin can with the thermite and the starter powder, you can use a lighter and a visco fuse. If you play with this sort of thing it's much easier than toting a blowtorch around. Do you find this valuable?    
Markthegenius
Markthegenius
13. RE: Thermite
Oct 15 2011, 12:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 15 2011, 12:49 PM EDT
I reccomend mixing in some magnesium to one's thermite.
Also, when igniting it, simply put a small heap of magnesium shavings or powder on top of the thermite itself, and light that.

And DONT LOOK at it unless you have UV protection of some kind like a welding mask.

One other thing. If you do decide to mix in magnesium with your thermite, be very carefull how it is stored and transported.
If one little spark touches your thermite, it's going to ignite, and you won't be able to stop the reaction.

I wouldn't take any chances with friction, either.
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Oakspar77777
Oakspar77777
14. RE: Thermite
Oct 19 2011, 8:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 19 2011, 8:20 PM EDT
Anything in a safe you open with thermite (or a blowtorch) is likely to be worthless after (check out the mythbusters where they open a safe with an arc welder).

Sore, if you want into a gun safe without cooking off the ammo, you are going to have to cut in there - as painful as that would be.
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