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Gabbit99FTW |
Bayonet anyone?
Oct 18 2011, 8:53 PM EDT
So me and a friend were talking about bayonets. Are they worth the space? what do you guys think? I do like the bayonet and think its worth it.outta ammo and zombie very close? Don't bother reaching for your Crowbar or hatchet or mace Just stab it with the knife attached to your Gun! Like no seriously who thought of that? A BLADE ON MY GUN. Do you find this valuable? |
Sharpie41 |
1. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 18 2011, 9:52 PM EDT
People have mentioned them, they're mostly overrated IMHO
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Carnack |
2. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 12:26 AM EDT
Bayonets (certain kinds) are not knives but stabbing tools.So they aren't really good for chopping and such like a lot of traditional knives. They are also pretty dangerous to carry on your rifle all the time. However that said I have not seen stabbing power like my bayonet. Knives can do it but bayonets are tailor-made for the job and they perform it very very well. Do you find this valuable? |
LJ126 |
3. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 12:49 AM EDT
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My SKS has a bayonet on it, and if I had to use it in a pinch because I've got nothing else at my disposal, I'm sure I could. At the minimum, it offers some reach over a knife.Some bayonets would make good general-purpose survival knives. Use to have an old chisel edged Romanian AK bayonet and frog in my BOB, and it was awesome as a survival edge. Newer US bayonets are also solid performers. Apparently, "t1ts" is censored. Stupid Wetpaint. Can't even call something "t1ts" to show how awesome it is... Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
4. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 2:08 AM EDT
****, *****, balls, ass, dick, ****, bastard, ****, FAWK YOU WP!Okay that's done. Personally I would go for a bayonet to fight with over a knife if I had to simply because at 8 inches with a very thin bladeshape it glides into anything you use it on and it will reach vitals be it brain or heart. Oh and I also don't use it in food prep so no chances that that roasted deer will bite me back later... Do you find this valuable? |
Filadog |
5. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 5:43 AM EDT
What makes a good bayonet is not the same thing that makes a good knifeA bayonet should be much softer then a good knife since it is more important that it doesn't snap then it is that it takes and keeps a sharp edge. Matter of fact a bayonet doesn't even have to be very sharp to be effective I have had many dozens of original bayonets and most had never been sharpened, even the ones that had been none were very sharp. When issued they were not sharpened. If you want a knife get a knife and don't use a bayonet Probably a bit of s stretch to come up with where a bayonet would be useful in the post Apoc but they are kind of neato and many of my rifles have one 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
JPTank |
6. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 1:42 PM EDT
Newer bayonettes are a lot better now adays. Older ones sometimes have a problem of getting caught in bone and having to struggle to rip it out, or having to wrestle your target to the ground to pull the blade out. In a skull, I think there's the chance the bayonette would get caught in the bone. So if you're in a hurry, may have to forget about your rifle... Do you find this valuable? |
timberrattler |
7. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 2:15 PM EDT
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Bayonets I believe were most effective when used with a rifle that had a solid wood stock. A modern rifle with a synthetic stock or an assault rifle like an AR wouldn't be viable to use a bayonet on IMO. A rifle with a pistol grip would also not allow a rifle to perform to its full potential with a bayonet.The best rifles to use a bayonet with would be your old military bolts, M1s and the SKS. The combination of bash and stab would be best utilized with these firearms IMO. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
SGTGerman |
8. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 2:29 PM EDT
"Bayonets I believe were most effective when used with a rifle that had a solid wood stock. A modern rifle with a synthetic stock or an assault rifle like an AR wouldn't be viable to use a bayonet on IMO. A rifle with a pistol grip would also not allow a rifle to perform to its full potential with a bayonet.Well we still use them although our weapons are heavier and than most common assault rifles however the bayonet is still a psycological weapon. When that bad boy's fixed, its a sign - you are about to close in with the enemy and kill him. That's why IMO its still in our infantry doctrine and has been for so long. Saying that, I wouldn't want to use one on a zed.... Do you find this valuable? |
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LJ126 |
9. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 3:33 PM EDT
"Bayonets I believe were most effective when used with a rifle that had a solid wood stock. A modern rifle with a synthetic stock or an assault rifle like an AR wouldn't be viable to use a bayonet on IMO. A rifle with a pistol grip would also not allow a rifle to perform to its full potential with a bayonet.Bayonets on older weapons were also very different than those that are fielded today - case in point, 1903 Springfield. Very different from today's M7 and M9 bayonets. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/Squintyeyedsmile/vehicles%20ww2%20stuff/leftbayonet.jpg 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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timberrattler |
10. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 3:54 PM EDT
The old school bayonet equipted rifles could be held so that you never had to move your shooting hand between stabbing, blocking, striking with the rifle butt and shooting.Modern bayonet training I believe has more to do with building an aggresive attitude in the soldier than anything. Bayonets can still be productive on the modern battlefield. Here's a link to an amazing story about a group of Scottsmen who put thier bayonets to good use in 2004. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article88661.ece Do you find this valuable? |
boater1217 |
11. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 4:01 PM EDT
I have a bayonet for my M1, although of the shorter version. Still the combination of wood stock and pointy thing on the end can be very effective in close in contact but is something I certainly would not be looking forward to.
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CDSm101-800s |
12. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 4:57 PM EDT
A good bayonet transforms a empty rifle into a good spear, and if the rifle has a good wood stock and a metal butt plate, a good club and spear.I like options. Especially when reloading and a zed wanders too close.. Also, if your good at stalking, might take out a zed without wastin the bullet. Other than that tho, the bayonet is not all that useful as a knife. There are better options out there. Do you find this valuable? |
mars22581 |
13. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 5:05 PM EDT
I have a bayonet lug for my AR-15 (see profile). This particular bayonet is a thick (1/4"+) full tang knife. Knife-knife, so it can be used without the rifle as well. Quiet kills, last ditch weapon after the ammo runs out... Don't see any reason NOT to have that option.
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Filadog |
14. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 6:15 PM EDT
"Bayonets on older weapons were also very different than those that are fielded today - case in point, 1903 Springfield. Very different from today's M7 and M9 bayonets.The Bayonet in that photo is the WWII M1942, some were new made and will be dated with WWII dates, some were made out of older M1905 bayonets by replacing their wood grips with pastic ones. WWII ones had parked blades the original 1905s had bright or blued blades with many parked when they were rebuilt into the M1942s While they fit on a Garand they were not intended for them as they took a shorter bayonet many of which were made by cutting down M1905s and M1942s as the military learned that they didn't need overly long bayonets The first 1903's took a long thin "rod" bayonet, supposedly Teddy Roosevelt had a fit when he saw it and they soon changed them to take the long knife blade. These long blade bayonets look neato mean but a short blade probably works just as well Gun in the photo looks like a 1903A1 with a "C" pistol grip stock that I think looks like somebody monkeyed with Do you find this valuable? |
Cantnoscope |
15. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 19 2011, 8:16 PM EDT
Would bayonets be more useful for rage-type zeds or undead? For undead you could impale them to keep them back for a moment and follow up with a kick or jab them through the head. For ragers a good bayonet to the chest or stomach could knock the fight out of them. Just my thoughts.
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SGTGerman |
16. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 20 2011, 5:02 AM EDT
"Would bayonets be more useful for rage-type zeds or undead? For undead you could impale them to keep them back for a moment and follow up with a kick or jab them through the head. For ragers a good bayonet to the chest or stomach could knock the fight out of them. Just my thoughts."I wouldn't have thought so. As long as you're still in arms reach you're still in danger. For living foes yes. For the walking dead - no. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
17. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 20 2011, 6:32 AM EDT
"I wouldn't have thought so. As long as you're still in arms reach you're still in danger. For living foes yes. For the walking dead - no.A zombie gets in close and you push him back, then you swing around and thump him hard in the face with the butt of your rifle knocking him down you then bring your bayonet to bear and finish him off with a quick jab to the eye. Yeah it probably wouldn't go down like that but that's how I see a rifle like an SKS being used. That solid wood stock combined with a bayonet would be good in hand to hand combat without having to set your gun aside to draw a melee weapon. Your melee would always be at hand. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
18. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 20 2011, 12:27 PM EDT
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Every attack I consider with a bayonet is a stabbing move. Go for soft skin beneath ones jaw and drive it up at an angle into the brain.Or slide it up the neck and into the base of their skull (ala Daryl). For humans the chest becomes a veritable to canvas to paint red. Do you find this valuable? |
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SGTGerman |
19. RE: Bayonet anyone?
Oct 20 2011, 1:07 PM EDT
"A zombie gets in close and you push him back, then you swing around and thump him hard in the face with the butt of your rifle knocking him down you then bring your bayonet to bear and finish him off with a quick jab to the eye.True however I'm thinking more of the "fast moving" zeds. The slow moving ones could probably be dealt with in such a manner however unless you're wearing head to toe protection things such as blood splatter and the sneaky bite are just too likely for my liking. Then again using such a weapon like a bat and bashing him off course is something I would consider, although decent facial protection from blood splatters is a big must for me :) @Carnack. Just don't forget to ask "What makes the grass grow?" and to reply "BLOOD, BLOOD, BLOOD!!!" and "How do we get blood?" with "KILL KILL KILL!!!". *Small print* Results may vary. Success not guaranteed ;) Do you find this valuable? |
