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shotgunlover
shotgunlover
Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 23 2011, 9:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 23 2011, 9:17 PM EDT
Would you train a large dog or some other big animal to attack zombies? Or would you be afraid they would become zombified and just be another ammo-sponge? 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
1. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 24 2011, 12:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 12:25 AM EDT
Yes

PS, my "yes" was to being afraid that it would become a zanimal Do you find this valuable?    
hellface666
hellface666
2. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 24 2011, 12:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 12:19 AM EDT
If by attack you mean jump up and bite the shambling disease ridden corpse, then no. But if you meant to train them to try to jump on 'em as to knock one off their feet, then, ehhh....
That would be pretty cool though. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
3. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 24 2011, 1:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 1:15 AM EDT
Tracking and barking only. You'd have to train them to corner but not actually attack. Do you find this valuable?    
crittergetter
crittergetter
4. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 24 2011, 7:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 7:08 AM EDT
"Tracking and barking only. You'd have to train them to corner but not actually attack."
I dont know if you could over come natural instint on training a dog to hunt or attack Zeds.
They would still be good warning and dogs will defend themselves.
But when it comes to their natural or personality traits is another thing entirely.

Would Zeds cause animals to flee from fear. And no matter the training they wont attack unless cornered. Or would the natural reaction be for dogs to want to tear them apart.
Now dogs if a part of your personal pack will defend you, but that isnt the same as attacking. My dogs wont be trained to do anything but warn and defend the pack(family/group). Sending dogs out to attack were they might get in the way of shooting Zeds for fear of hitting them isnt a good useage. Or even having to worry about them and thus have to keep an eye out for them more than usual.

What ever Zed the dog attacks will more than likely need to be finnished off by a human. So chasing after a dog and its prey isnt a real good idea to me.

As for knocking a Zed over, why? Now the dog can easily be injured by the Zed. And even if the dog doesnt get hurt someone is gonna have to finnish off this Zed. And now the dog is in the line of fire. This isnt even counting on the dog getting infected, which I really doubt can happen. But just incase you just put a real good warning system in danger for what. Oh ya its cool. lol

Not for me or my dogs.
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shotgunlover
shotgunlover
5. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 24 2011, 6:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 6:17 PM EDT
"Tracking and barking only. You'd have to train them to corner but not actually attack."
Thats a good point about the cornering, but would a zed really be afraid of a dog? Also, dogs could be useful for attacking other survivors that are hostile towards your team. Do you find this valuable?    
Andre_lobo
Andre_lobo
6. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 24 2011, 7:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 7:36 PM EDT
If when people become zombified, they start going primarely after non-zombified people, does that mean that zanimals will prefer to attack animals of their own species that are not infected? Do you find this valuable?    
crittergetter
crittergetter
7. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 25 2011, 7:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2011, 7:03 AM EDT
Zeds shouldnt be able to be cornered. But tracking or locating Zeds is a good job for them. Like blood hounds.
As for attacking other survivors its a big gamble. Most survivors will have guns and shooting a dog wont be an issue for them. Considering they will have killed Zeds or raiders/bandits by now. A dog wont be a big issue and now you just lost an asset for what.
Now as a protection animal inside your own BOL is ok. Because they will morethan likely be shot by any raiders anyways and the BOL is in danger.

As for the dogs becoming Zeds I dont know but doubt it. And since there never have been Zeds then we dont know what they will and wont attack. And if anything but man is infectable. Only an outbreak will answer that one. Do you find this valuable?    
Abu_Fulan
Abu_Fulan
8. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 25 2011, 11:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2011, 11:39 PM EDT
Personally I wouldn't bother training a dog to attack.

Of all the scenarios I can imagine that would cause society to collapse, most would result in a lot of stray dogs. I would make an effort to snag two or three strays, and at night chain them along avenues of approach to my location (i.e. you have to pass a dog to get to each exterior door).

IMHO, untrained dogs serve two purposes: dissuading troublemakers, and telling you there is a problem. Once notified of trouble, it's up to you to handle it. Do you find this valuable?    
crittergetter
crittergetter
9. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 31 2011, 9:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 31 2011, 9:05 AM EDT
"Personally I wouldn't bother training a dog to attack.

Of all the scenarios I can imagine that would cause society to collapse, most would result in a lot of stray dogs. I would make an effort to snag two or three strays, and at night chain them along avenues of approach to my location (i.e. you have to pass a dog to get to each exterior door).

IMHO, untrained dogs serve two purposes: dissuading troublemakers, and telling you there is a problem. Once notified of trouble, it's up to you to handle it. "
Trained dogs are a bonus. You and your group/family beome the dogs new pack. Then they will defend the pack to the death. A real large bonus in my book. Plus dogs have other uses too.
Stray dogs for security is a bunus. But you need to feed them and let them den close to your BOL so they get used to you and the group. That also helps by they will defend their den and thus yours.
A chained dog outside a fence will not survive long. Feral dog packs, coyotes, wolves, bears, and just people will kill them to easy. And they wont be wild/stray dogs anymore once you get them to handle being chained. They are now semi-trained. And a wild/feral dog wont let you walk them or chain them without someone getting hurt or dieing. Not a good idea.
The princeaple is sound but execussion is a little dicie. Do you find this valuable?    
Frag-12
Frag-12
10. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Oct 31 2011, 9:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 31 2011, 9:50 AM EDT
I would train my dog to do the following in WWZ -

1. Not sure if this possible, but quietly notify me if there are zeds in the area. If not, train the dog to stop barking on command,
2. Tracking,
3. Attacking or protecting against uninfected creatures\humans,
4. Detecting infected who have not yet turn like the Israeli guard dogs in WWZ,
5. Decoys\Lures for zombies like in WWZ. Do you find this valuable?    

zombie0human156
11. RE: Attack Dogs or Other Animals
Feb 4 2012, 12:12 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2012, 12:12 AM EST
you could use a bull because if the cows in the herd are it danger the bull would attack. Do you find this valuable?    

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