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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
My Melee Weapons Kick
Oct 24 2011, 11:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 11:38 AM EDT
I am going through a phase of total melee obsession with an improvised weapons preference, and I thought I'd bring in a general discussion of the topic here.
I recently checked out my shovel and hatchet while doing yard work and found the shovel to be easy to use, long enough, and and pretty tough, though breakage is possible. Also, shovels can be sharpened and used as bladed and blunt As for the ax, mine is broken, but I have experience with the ax from a young age, and I feel I could use it if I had to, but it is a bit heavy if you're not swinging straight down. The hatchet is small but effective. I prefer wooden handles. Mine doesn't have much of a blade, though. I will say more later...
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crittergetter
crittergetter
1. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Oct 24 2011, 11:49 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 11:49 AM EDT
House hold tool/melee weapons I have.
Three large shovels
Wood axe
Two hatchets
Three aluminum bats
Two wooden bats
Matchete
Three large sledge/swedge hammers
Twenty or so kitchen knives and another thirty or so steak knives
Three large hunting knives
Four folding knives
Three bayonets (one blade, two spikes)
Misc little hammers and screwdrivers and such.

I bet I can find more like cheater pipes, crowbars, rebar steaks for animal pickets, loose pipe and steel rods.
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barret_zombie_bane
barret_zombie_bane
2. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Oct 24 2011, 2:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 2:57 PM EDT
As I live in England, melee weapons/tools are my ticket through z day.
My personal thoughts on some of them:
A pick mattock - a rather useful farming/digging tool good for a variety of situations, although it is around the same size as a sledgehammer it is much lighter and could easily be used on a single zed maybe a few shamblers.
A shovel - you pretty much covered this
A Pitchfork - not recommended as they are pretty awkward when it comes to attacking anything but the ground.
a steel pipe - light, strong and with some modifications very nice to use :)
hammers - top heavy and short reach, not recommended for fighting off multiple opponents.
Stanley knives - although very sharp, due to the short reach I would not recommend for combat due to the extremely short range and thin blade.
broomsticks - long range, probably more use without a head but would not recommend long term as the handles aren't the strongest materials.
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
3. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Oct 24 2011, 5:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 5:39 PM EDT
One thing people don't take into account it zombie survival: the power of human adrenaline. Also: the versatility of shovels.
Shovels can be used for digging, chopping, or bashing of anything.
As for adrenaline, I just used a shovel to simultaeniously dig up and tear apart a stump in my yard. I got furiously determinded to finish the job, and I pretty much went berserk. I chopped as hard as I could and just swung that shovel like crazy until I maganged to tear apart/uproot the whole d*mn thing.
Victory.
Anyway, I ended up growling at the stump. I jarred my arms and wrists, hit myself in the shin with shovel, and even jabbed my own elbow into my ribs accidentally, but I just worked until I got rid of the stump. That's the power of adrenaline. I think if I can do that much damage to a stump in the little time it took me with just a shovel, a few zombies wouldn't pose much a threat.
Although a horde would be a different story.
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CyprusBill
CyprusBill
4. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Oct 24 2011, 6:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2011, 6:25 PM EDT
One of my favorite too-weapons is the pipe wrench.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/pipe-wrench-1.jpg
They're solid metal and heavy as heck. They come in various sizes from tiny to over 3 ft. long.
The 2 1/2 footers are prolly the easiest to swing about. Not too heavy, but I'd almost guarantee they'd be able to wreck a skull.
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MonsterWhoop
MonsterWhoop
5. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 1 2011, 9:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 9:19 AM EDT
"Zombitches, ima zombitchslap to asses!!!"
I'm still a minor, so i dont really got any weapons, except for one...
It's a type of Shillalagh (the Irish club-stick) and on the end of it, i screwed on a type of curtainrail spike, here's the link

http://www.ikea.com/nl/nl/catalog/products/50144874/

so as a beginning weapon i find it quite awesome, since its a club and a short spear in one!
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Frag-12
Frag-12
6. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 1 2011, 9:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 9:35 AM EDT
To keep weight down while bugging out, I always thought it to be a better plan to carry tools for both what they were designed for and for improvised zed killers. Everyone should remember to keep their gear and BoB weight low enough to carry on foot just in case your primary\alternate method of travel fails.

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MonsterWhoop
MonsterWhoop
7. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 1 2011, 10:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 10:01 AM EDT
"Zombitches, ima zombitchslap yo asses!!!"
Well, u could instead of that, become a living tank!
Buy plate armor, wear mail underneath, and a kite shield with a big ass flanged mace and a sword at ur side and a spear on ur back!
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CDSm101-800s
CDSm101-800s
8. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 12:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 12:13 PM EDT
"As I live in England, melee weapons/tools are my ticket through z day.
My personal thoughts on some of them:
A pick mattock - a rather useful farming/digging tool good for a variety of situations, although it is around the same size as a sledgehammer it is much lighter and could easily be used on a single zed maybe a few shamblers.
A shovel - you pretty much covered this
A Pitchfork - not recommended as they are pretty awkward when it comes to attacking anything but the ground.
a steel pipe - light, strong and with some modifications very nice to use :)
hammers - top heavy and short reach, not recommended for fighting off multiple opponents.
Stanley knives - although very sharp, due to the short reach I would not recommend for combat due to the extremely short range and thin blade.
broomsticks - long range, probably more use without a head but would not recommend long term as the handles aren't the strongest materials.
"
Don't disregard the pitchfork. Properly used it will be very good zombie killer. One tine in the head will do wonders. Remember, all the force of the jab will be on the tiny points of the tines....

Also, it would be ideal for working in teams to take down a zombie. One person with the pitchfork stabs the zombie anywhere in the chest and torques it around to knock the zombie down. The other person moves in and finishes off the zombie who is pinned down. Easy pickings. Prolly not ideal with a group of them.. but an individual or two can be taken out quickly.
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CDSm101-800s
CDSm101-800s
9. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 12:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 12:17 PM EDT
"One thing people don't take into account it zombie survival: the power of human adrenaline. Also: the versatility of shovels.
Shovels can be used for digging, chopping, or bashing of anything.
As for adrenaline, I just used a shovel to simultaeniously dig up and tear apart a stump in my yard. I got furiously determinded to finish the job, and I pretty much went berserk. I chopped as hard as I could and just swung that shovel like crazy until I maganged to tear apart/uproot the whole d*mn thing.
Victory.
Anyway, I ended up growling at the stump. I jarred my arms and wrists, hit myself in the shin with shovel, and even jabbed my own elbow into my ribs accidentally, but I just worked until I got rid of the stump. That's the power of adrenaline. I think if I can do that much damage to a stump in the little time it took me with just a shovel, a few zombies wouldn't pose much a threat.
Although a horde would be a different story."
Adrenaline is a very powerful tool. The downside is when it wears off tho....

Also, repeated adrenaline highs cause the body to resist adrenaline's potency.

But the shovel, especially a spade is a deadly weapon.
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CDSm101-800s
CDSm101-800s
10. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 12:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 12:19 PM EDT
"To keep weight down while bugging out, I always thought it to be a better plan to carry tools for both what they were designed for and for improvised zed killers. Everyone should remember to keep their gear and BoB weight low enough to carry on foot just in case your primary\alternate method of travel fails.

"
Yup, that is why I have a small crow bar 2 1/2 foot job hanging on the outside of my BOB. Gets me into things, and a good solid bar of iron to whack a zombie noggin with.
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CDSm101-800s
CDSm101-800s
11. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 12:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 12:25 PM EDT
"Well, u could instead of that, become a living tank!
Buy plate armor, wear mail underneath, and a kite shield with a big ass flanged mace and a sword at ur side and a spear on ur back!"
That would prolly work ok for a few zombies, but against a horde.. good luck.

I hope you realize that armor is heavy, does not breath well, and takes some skill to wear properly. Having said that, I always thought that a police riot shield would be very useful. It is durable enough to deal with a zombie, and you can see through it. Nice to know where the bitey bits are.. Would use either the gladius or the flanged mace to finish them off. But since I do not have a riot shield.. the point is moot.
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
12. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 12:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 12:55 PM EDT
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But the shovel, especially a spade is a deadly weapon."
Persoanlly, a prefer standard shovels. Just a long peice of wood with a round-edged, concave triangle on the end.

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CDSm101-800s
CDSm101-800s
13. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 2:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 2:20 PM EDT
"Persoanlly, a prefer standard shovels. Just a long peice of wood with a round-edged, concave triangle on the end.

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Not sure what kind of shovel that is. A spade is I)------)=) A convex curve. Is that what your talking about? There are different kinds of shovels, just asking. A concave would look like this (
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BigLoki
BigLoki
14. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 2:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 2:57 PM EDT
Two words.. Bear Suit.
Muahahaha!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4313295652011110485
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
15. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 3:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 3:45 PM EDT
"Not sure what kind of shovel that is. A spade is I)------)=) A convex curve. Is that what your talking about? There are different kinds of shovels, just asking. A concave would look like this ("
Sorry for the unclearness. Let's just say I mean a regualar shovel.
Kind of like this...
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When I say concave, I just mean that the metal is not flat...you can't shovel with flat metal.


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CDSm101-800s
CDSm101-800s
16. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 5:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 5:13 PM EDT
"Sorry for the unclearness. Let's just say I mean a regualar shovel.
Kind of like this...
-------->

When I say concave, I just mean that the metal is not flat...you can't shovel with flat metal.


"
Np man. Sounds like a typical spade. The military entrenchment tool is a tiny folding spade. But there is different types of shovels. A coal shovel prolly will not work so good, or a snow shovel... lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shovel

The picture of the man carrying shovels at the top is actually carrying spades.

The picture they have for spades is showing some nice old spades, unfortunately with thier points well worn down.

Lol. Hope this clears up things for the lurkers.
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HeldUpInCostco
HeldUpInCostco
17. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 2 2011, 6:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 6:17 PM EDT
"Also, it would be ideal for working in teams to take down a zombie. One person with the pitchfork stabs the zombie anywhere in the chest and torques it around to knock the zombie down. The other person moves in and finishes off the zombie who is pinned down. Easy pickings. Prolly not ideal with a group of them.. but an individual or two can be taken out quickly."
I actually had a talk with one guy a couple days ago about this. It's a super smooth tactic. I'm definately a fan.
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MonsterWhoop
MonsterWhoop
18. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 3 2011, 8:33 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 3 2011, 8:33 AM EDT
"That would prolly work ok for a few zombies, but against a horde.. good luck.

I hope you realize that armor is heavy, does not breath well, and takes some skill to wear properly. Having said that, I always thought that a police riot shield would be very useful. It is durable enough to deal with a zombie, and you can see through it. Nice to know where the bitey bits are.. Would use either the gladius or the flanged mace to finish them off. But since I do not have a riot shield.. the point is moot."
Well, maybe a horde would knock u down, but u would still get a good lot of the Zed dead... for good, and even if a horde Zed attacks u, that's what the plate and mail is for, u think your teeth can bite through that?
A living human gots better dentals than a dead rotting one so, yea u might be lying on the ground, but rest for an hour, and than get up and than charge em... again, and p.s. replace the spear by a halberd, easier to swing around and dismember the zombitches :D
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TheShadowEnigma
TheShadowEnigma
19. RE: My Melee Weapons Kick
Nov 4 2011, 4:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 4:41 PM EDT
If you got knocked down, then you'd have a swarm of zombies all on top of you trying to eat you. Your limbs would become pinned, the heat would build up (Remember your inside a tin can). I do not think it would be that easy to "rest for an hour."

Oh and I hope no zombie finds any of the numerous joints in your armor. No armor is perfect, and they'll find the weak spot where the mail could be lifted up, or pull off your gauntlet.
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