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vampirejediknight	Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 1 2011, 4:27 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 4:27 PM EDT So, picture this scenario in any choice country. Some kind of zombies (refrain from extensive assumptions about their nature) are running amuck, and the military has launched a full-scale extermination attempt, into which they are putting all their ground power and a number of air raids. How does that one go? What country do we all figure would come out best? Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: ideas issues logos mottos wepaint wiki ZSDW
vampirejediknight	1. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 1 2011, 4:28 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 4:28 PM EDT I put this in the wrong place... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Hega-boy	2. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 1 2011, 5:02 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 5:02 PM EDT Well Ireland has a very small airforce and a army of 10000 so I doubt we could stand a chance. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
vampirejediknight	3. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 1 2011, 5:11 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 5:11 PM EDT Then again Ireland is a small island, and it's not that crowded.... Unless "zombies" can swim, which I suppose is possible.. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
chitoryu12	4. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 2 2011, 10:22 AM EDT How many zombies do they have to face? Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
CDSm101-800s	5. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 2 2011, 1:01 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 1:01 PM EDT I doubt any western country would fare very good. The Russians and the Chinese might be able to hold the line, but I think that any real major outbreak happens here and we are screwed. Right now most of the U.S. military is overseas, and not very useful for problems at home. Also, I doubt that any other western country will have the manpower to spare to help out. Europe is too many countries with too many ppls too close together. Here in Canada, we have the second largest country in the world, and a relatively tiny military. There is simpy too much territory to defend, and no way to keep out the hordes of our southern neighbours wandering up north looking for safety, and either bringing the infected with them, or following shambling behind. Ppls forget we have the longest undefended border in the world.... and it has been 199 years since we last fought a war with each other. Also, a country wide outbreak and there will simply be too little troops to be everywhere at once. They might be able to hold an area, and slowly sweep the rest of the country clean, but that would take time, and I doubt the government, let alone the military would realize what they were up against until it is too late. Some of the island provinces might fare ok, but even they would be hard pressed to stop refugees fleeing there, bringing the infection with them.. One thing to remember as well... every soldier that gets infected is one less you have, and one more they have. In a war of attrition with the undead.. we are going to lose. How many will we lose before we realize what we are up against? What happens if communication fails? What if nobody knows what is going on and the average soldier sees everything going to hell in the proverbial handbasket? Desert? Get out of dodge and go home? How many would be left to man the aircraft, drive the trucks to supply the troops.. then the whole system is likely to implode.. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
necroslaughter	6. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 2 2011, 4:00 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 4:02 PM EDT First headline FRANCE MAKES NON-AGGRESSION PACT WITH UNDEAD Second headline FRANCE FALLS TO UNDEAD Post reply 8 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Oakspar77777	7. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 2 2011, 7:29 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 7:29 PM EDT As far as the actual militaries go, almost every county has equivalent ability to put troops with small arms (AKs or the like) and armor (tanks, personal carriers, reinforced dumptrucks, etc). The real differences (sea power, air support, artillary, etc) won't make a ton of difference against an undead hoard. So, as most of the posters here have noted, it comes down to population density, geography, and troop numbers. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Hega-boy	8. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 2 2011, 8:40 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 8:40 PM EDT "Then again Ireland is a small island, and it's not that crowded.... Unless "zombies" can swim, which I suppose is possible.." OK:) well say there's 50000 small arms in Ireland, theres still 4.5 million people all on one island like tinned sardines:) Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
speedybobneville	9. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 2 2011, 9:31 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 9:31 PM EDT I think North Korea would do very well against a zombie outbreak. Most of the men have some military training and there are no shortages of guns and fortified bunkers throughout the country. Theyve been preparing for a catastrophic conflict for nearly fifty years now. Post reply 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
epic_epicness	10. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 2 2011, 10:11 PM EDT "I think North Korea would do very well against a zombie outbreak. Most of the men have some military training and there are no shortages of guns and fortified bunkers throughout the country. Theyve been preparing for a catastrophic conflict for nearly fifty years now." only problem with that theory is they are all being starved to death by kimy right now. none of them are in any shape to fight. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
LastPariah	11. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 2 2011, 11:02 PM EDT I feel that the US Military would do SO-SO. THe current Doctrine of precision fire (Particularly the Marines and their seldom Full auto weapons) would make quick work of most zombies, though through extended battle, the Questionable AR15 (Direct Impingement) systems and all its '60s politics may show its ugly side with extended fire and little cleaning. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	12. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 3 2011, 12:03 AM EDT "I feel that the US Military would do SO-SO. THe current Doctrine of precision fire (Particularly the Marines and their seldom Full auto weapons) would make quick work of most zombies, though through extended battle, the Questionable AR15 (Direct Impingement) systems and all its '60s politics may show its ugly side with extended fire and little cleaning. " Where the hell do you get your info? Yes it needs cleaning but it is very easy to clean....a quick swipe with a cloth and it's good to go for awhile. You need a new source for your info because the AR DGI is still quite reliable Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
chitoryu12	13. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 3 2011, 12:57 AM EDT "I think North Korea would do very well against a zombie outbreak. Most of the men have some military training and there are no shortages of guns and fortified bunkers throughout the country. Theyve been preparing for a catastrophic conflict for nearly fifty years now." North Korea is already in trouble: the majority of the population lives in starvation and squalor, and despite Kim's attempt at making a cult of personality he probably doesn't have the entire country under his thumb waiting at his every word. An apocalyptic scenario would make the situation even worse and probably lead to mass riots as food supply is cut off and the military (due to an almost complete lack of zombies in popular culture to let them realize the situation for what it is) fighting an enemy of unknown capabilities, strength, and size. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Uzzgub	14. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 3 2011, 6:37 AM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 3 2011, 6:37 AM EDT The tribal lands in Affrica will do well as they wont think twice about killing outsiders, Russia and China will also do ok as they have govenments that will open fire on civies, its the same in the middle east. we in the West have the biggest problem IMO as by the time the govenments order kill shots it will be to late and there will be to many zeds Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
SGTGerman	15. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 3 2011, 12:50 PM EDT @Necroslaughter - LOL yes mate I could see it now! God help the UK if this happens after 12:00 Friday. 99% of us based here will be/getting pissed ready for the weekend lol. We would have to pull all our armed forces in a central location or restrict them to barracks to hold the perimeter me thinks. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
vampirejediknight	16. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 3 2011, 4:24 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 3 2011, 4:24 PM EDT "Russia and China will also do ok" Russia I can see, but Chine is just too crowded. All Swiss men have basic training, a weapon, and are members of a militia until at least age 30. Add to that all the good natural factors, and you've got a pretty good set-up. Then again, those militiamen can get infected like any other. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
CDSm101-800s	17. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 3 2011, 5:29 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 3 2011, 5:29 PM EDT "Where the hell do you get your info? Yes it needs cleaning but it is very easy to clean....a quick swipe with a cloth and it's good to go for awhile. You need a new source for your info because the AR DGI is still quite reliable" I have seen some reports from Afghanistan where extend use of the m-16 variants firing in excess of 4k rounds in a firefight is causing them to jam up. What is not clear is whether or not it is faulty ammo, overheating due to constant auto fire, or bad tactics. I kept my weapon meticulously clean and never experienced any problems other than the occasional dud round during the entire time I carried one. I must admit tho, that I never fired 4k worth or rounds in a single engagement or training exercise. Seems like a crap load of ammo for a hand full of insurgents.... so that might be the problem right there... Otherwise I was never overly impressed with the weapon itself. It proved to be better than I expected, but I really lamented the loss of the old FNC1-A1. I would have one today if they were not prohibited now. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
CDSm101-800s	18. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 3 2011, 5:37 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 3 2011, 5:37 PM EDT "Russia I can see, but Chine is just too crowded. All Swiss men have basic training, a weapon, and are members of a militia until at least age 30. Add to that all the good natural factors, and you've got a pretty good set-up. Then again, those militiamen can get infected like any other." Agreed with the swiss.. Also all thier tunnels are wired with explosives.. first sign of trouble and they will seal off the country. China has a lot of ppls, but like any dictatorship, they control the media, and are not afraid to use the military on civilians.... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	19. RE: Foreign Military vs. Zombies Nov 3 2011, 6:21 PM EDT \| Post edited: Nov 3 2011, 6:21 PM EDT Switzerland and Israel are my two top foreign military picks for surviving the ZPOC. Both countries are known for not putting up with bull and to lock down when SHTF. As for the US military, it will depend on how fast the field commanders become situational aware and apply martial law. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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