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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 7:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 7:14 PM EDT
First of all, I was just promoted to Writer, and I plan to help as much as I can with the Global Survival Guide and will write fiction eventually as well as add articles and such.

Also, I'm thinking of getting a Ruger 10/22, but I need to know a few things.
Owners' comments in general.
What is the best kind of magaizine for it?
What is a low-cost scope I can put on easily/is scoping a good idea?
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tvercetti1
tvercetti1
1. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 7:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 7:22 PM EDT
"First of all, I was just promoted to Writer, and I plan to help as much as I can with the Global Survival Guide and will write fiction eventually as well as add articles and such.

Also, I'm thinking of getting a Ruger 10/22, but I need to know a few things.
Owners' comments in general.
What is the best kind of magaizine for it?
What is a low-cost scope I can put on easily/is scoping a good idea?
"
All I know at the moment about the 10/22 is that is a decent .22 and make sure you get your magazines from Black Creek. As for scoping? I wouldn't put one on since I dont want to engage at long ranges anyways. Better to just save the weight IMHO.
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
2. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 7:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 7:27 PM EDT
Black Creek, eh?
I'll make a note of that. I'd like to scope as I have bad aim due to my unsteady hands...
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
3. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 7:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 7:55 PM EDT
"Black Creek, eh?
I'll make a note of that. I'd like to scope as I have bad aim due to my unsteady hands..."
A scope won't make unsteady hands any better. You'll just end up even worse at the ranges a scope requires.

If you have trouble aiming at long range, stick to iron sights or a reflex sight and learn to shoot up close; any post-apocalyptic combat will likely be at spitting distance at a moment's notice, rather than exchanging rifle fire at 200 yards. I'd recommend learning to shoot in a situation you'd face if you got jumped while walking down the street, not picking off raiders at a distance.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
4. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 7:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 7:57 PM EDT
Butler creek....

Either that or Ruger, they make their own hi-cap mags. STAY AWAY FROM SHOOTERS RIDGE, I have a 30 round mag and its a POS
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
5. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 8:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 8:00 PM EDT
Also, having a scope would exaggerate your unsteady hands, I don't notice when I am shooting irons, definitely do when shooting with a scope 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
6. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 8:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 8:05 PM EDT
Okay, then. Thanks for the advice everyone.

I found a customization kit that makes it look like a Thompson...
You can also get them with an M1 Carbine style stock.
I've also seen them with thumbhole stocks.
Some people paint them bright red.
Not all of those are good ideas...in fact I'm not sure I want any, but just to let you know what I've seen about how different they can be.

Any more advice on it?
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
7. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 8:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 8:08 PM EDT
Also, advice on adding a flashlight? Do you find this valuable?    
tvercetti1
tvercetti1
8. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 8:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 8:13 PM EDT
"Black Creek, eh?
I'll make a note of that. I'd like to scope as I have bad aim due to my unsteady hands..."
Sorry. Butler Creek lol.

The website is down right now. It is www.butlercreek.com but you may be waiting a bit. I dont know whats going on with it.

You can get the steel lip mags and 50 round drums for the 10/22.
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
9. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 8:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 8:21 PM EDT
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OutlawJames
OutlawJames
10. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 10:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 10:47 PM EDT
"First of all, I was just promoted to Writer, and I plan to help as much as I can with the Global Survival Guide and will write fiction eventually as well as add articles and such.

Also, I'm thinking of getting a Ruger 10/22, but I need to know a few things.
Owners' comments in general.
What is the best kind of magaizine for it?
What is a low-cost scope I can put on easily/is scoping a good idea?
"
I have had several 10/22's , I dont own them anymore. Unfortunately all the 10/22's I have had, have been very picky about the ammo they use.
One only liked Winchester super-X one would only be reliable with Remingtom Lightning, one only liked the Winchester or Federal ammo....
I have a few friends that have not had those problems, but several that have.

That is something I dont care for most 22 autos, they can be very picky about the ammo they use.

Also .22 autos tend to get dirty faster, Nature of the ammo, The powder tends to be a slower burning powder and in most autos is not done burning when the action opens, thus soot and unburned powder in the action.

I have only ever owned a few auto .22 rifles that were not somewhat picky.

One reason I like manual action .22s be they bolt, lever or pump action. The shell is completly fired before you open the action.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
11. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 1 2011, 11:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2011, 11:37 PM EDT
"Also, advice on adding a flashlight?"
I wouldn't honestly, might be cool but kind of a waste, if you 100% decide to, and you stick with the OEM stock, just use a barrel clamp, if you get an Intrafuse or Archangel etc stock, one that will attach to a Picatinny rail would probably be best, or just go with a barrel clamp...

OJ: My 10/22 has worked flawlessly with all ammo (except some winchester stuff I had, but it got wet when me and my GF were camping) and I was going to say maybe because the ones you had were old but I just remembered my dad telling me that his went through THOUSANDS of rounds without a hitch, maybe you just got some bad apples?

tvercetti: Have you seen any teardrop 50 round mags around here? I know you can order drums but I like the look of the teardrop style mags
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John_234
John_234
12. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 2 2011, 12:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 12:42 AM EDT
I like flashlights on everything, but I can't really see a .22 needing one. You'd only really use a .22 when a large gun wasn't necessary - which probably means daytime hunting small game or taking out lone zeds. Another flashlight is another thing to break, make it heavier and change batteries.

.22s aren't particularly reliable across different types of ammo. Most people that have reliable track records simply always buy high-velocity .22.

That said, I want a flashlight on anything I'd rely to kill dangerous things. Shotguns, rifles, pistols, etc.

Personally, rather than a barrel clamp, which can torque the barrel, I'd go with tapping the handguard for a short section of rail.
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toxic_shock
toxic_shock
13. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 2 2011, 12:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 12:51 AM EDT
"Also, advice on adding a flashlight?"
I see zero benefit to adding a flashlight to a .22 rifle. I'm sure you can think of something much more useful to spend your money on.

As far as the 10/22 is concerned, I know 2 people who own them and they are a bit ammo picky. You want more accurate, less picky, lower cost alternative? Get a Marlin. I have 2 and have never had a jam with either. They eat thunderbolt, winchester, whatever. Granted, you can't load up a Marlin with doo-dads and special ops gear, but you can get one for not much more than a Mosin and you can shoot whatever you can get cheap.
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epic_epicness
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14. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 2 2011, 2:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 2:06 AM EDT
"Also, advice on adding a flashlight?"
I'd do it, rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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thomas13mike
thomas13mike
15. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 2 2011, 4:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 4:27 AM EDT
"I see zero benefit to adding a flashlight to a .22 rifle. I'm sure you can think of something much more useful to spend your money on.

As far as the 10/22 is concerned, I know 2 people who own them and they are a bit ammo picky. You want more accurate, less picky, lower cost alternative? Get a Marlin. I have 2 and have never had a jam with either. They eat thunderbolt, winchester, whatever. Granted, you can't load up a Marlin with doo-dads and special ops gear, but you can get one for not much more than a Mosin and you can shoot whatever you can get cheap. "
I gotta agree with you there...You can get a brand new model 60 marlin and scope it for not much then $300. I bought a new one a few years ago and i've also had another for over 20 years that I shot the rifling out of. And if you know anything about .22s you know it takes ALOT to do that. Sooner or later i'll get the barrel replaced on it but it still shoots just as smooth as it did when new. And right on the ammo too i can count on one hand the number of times it's jammed on me no matter what i put in it.
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
16. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 2 2011, 6:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 6:21 AM EDT
"I'd do it, rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it."
I am also a fan of that quote, but honestly, I think I'll go with this other advice. The flashlight would be more for shotguns, so when I get one of those...
I'll look into the Marlin now.
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Filadog
Filadog
17. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 2 2011, 6:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 6:24 AM EDT
i have a 10/2 and have shot more then a few others. I'm not a big fan of most Ruger guns but if you want a semi auto 22 I think a 10/22 is probably your best choice....there is a reason it is the most popular .22 auto and that they sold millions of the things.

Mine has always been reliable and is accurate. Trigger could be better but one advantage of the 10/22 is the ease of getting parts to upgrade to a better a trigger.
Many of the after market hi cap mags are junk. I have 2 ramline mags that seem to work OK but had to go through 4 or 5 others to find them. Best to stick to factory 10 rd. ones.
Still waiting to hear of a realistic need for a 30 shot .22...Same with tactical looking stocks , flash hiders etc.

Factory Sights are OK but a good scope really makes it into a more useful rifle I have an old 3x9 power weaver on mine and it has been a great scope and never gave me any trouble. I like these old made in USA weavers, bought it at a flea market years ago for $15
I'd stay away from new made real cheap scopes

If you don't want a scope I'd for sure get an aperture reciever sight which would be a huge improvemnet of the factory sights. Williams makes a nice one

I drilled a hole in the back of mines reciever so I can clean the bore from the breech. I also want to drill a compartment into the butt stock to carry a cleaning rod/kit
Because .22 ammo uses heel type bullets it is pretty dirty to shoot. To keep your rifle dependable you have to keep it clean taking care to get dirt out behind the extractor and around the chamber etc. Lots of people clean just the barrel which is the one thing you probably don't have to worry about that much.

If I wanted a flashlight on the rifle, maybe if I shot a lot of 'coons at night, I would just screw a cheap rail on the side of the wood forarm and mount it there. Have to admit this is a pretty specialised need
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vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
18. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 2 2011, 6:29 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 6:29 AM EDT
Wow, the Marlin is cheap. They say it has fewer aftermarket parts avalable, but the advice I've heard is the scope would worsen my aim, and the flashlight is unneeded. I like the look of the Marlin, but the Ruger is shorter, which would make it more combative if needed. Also, if I had to hunt, the Ruger is, as I said, shorter, and it is also easier to take apart for cleaning. The Marlin holds 14 or 18 rounds in the tube magazine, which is factory standard. I hear the Ruger has fewer in the tube, but with its other magazines...
Then again, I hear they're unrealiable, and also an added cost. With a .22, I can't see a need to blast off more than 14 rounds, and if I have to take either into combat...
I think the Marlin deserves a page here.
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vampirejediknight
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19. RE: My News and Gun Questions
Nov 2 2011, 6:29 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 2 2011, 6:29 AM EDT
I think I'll look for a Marlin 60.
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