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possumblaster
possumblaster
Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 12:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 12:10 AM EDT
Here is a video of a Colt M4A1 that is fired fully automatic, catches on fire, and keeps on shooting. By this time the barrel would be ruined anyways.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzfm4pYhIyY

Keep in mind these rifles were never intended to fill the role of a machinegun. It's pretty impressive IMO.
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
1. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 3:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 3:32 AM EDT
Impressive.

Does the guy only have one hand?
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timberrattler
timberrattler
2. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 7:30 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 7:30 AM EDT
You could link videos like this everyday and some kid would still show up on the site and proclaim what a jam-o-matic the Stoner design is quoting some History Channel program he watched. It's just the nature of the ZSDW beast.

Still hasn't hurt AR-15 sales. All you have to do is visit Bravo Company's website and see all the "Sold Out" signs to know that this rifle is more popular than ever. From parts, to accessories, to the actual rifles and carbines the AR-15 is more popular than ever.

At Whitaker Guns in Kentucky there used to just be a handfull of rifles and carbines on the racks. Now they have a double row of ARs and more stacked in boxes in the back.
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2WheeledSpeed
2WheeledSpeed
3. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 9:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 9:13 AM EDT
Funny how many foreign countries also use M16/M4 rifles, including a decent number of special forces units. I think even the British SAS did, and possibly still does use M16s or M4s on at least a limited basis.

But I guess all those elite soldiers know nothing compared to the internet commandos we've got on here...
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zombiezlayer
zombiezlayer
4. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 10:30 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 6:04 PM EDT
I think piston guns are more reliable, but I was an armorer in the army for 5 years before I became supply sgt and can honestly say that most of the problems I ran into were simple, mostly people not cleaning or using the CLP properly. I have seen some weapons that were so old that the M16A1 was stamped over with M16A2 and they fired fine. There is no denying that DI is a decent design. Anyone that talks bad about AR style rifles usually lack experience and just regurgitate info they read our seen on TV or are biased. I have owned AKs, SKSs and ARs, and just like cars they all have pros and cons. Its all in what you are looking for in a weapon. Personally, I like my bushmaster carbon-15. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharpie41
Sharpie41
5. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 11:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 11:00 AM EDT
"Funny how many foreign countries also use M16/M4 rifles, including a decent number of special forces units. I think even the British SAS did, and possibly still does use M16s or M4s on at least a limited basis.

But I guess all those elite soldiers know nothing compared to the internet commandos we've got on here..."
UK pathfinders, Denmark SF and reg force, Netherlands SF and reg force, and Canadian SF and reg force use Canadian built ARs.
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
6. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 2:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 2:34 PM EDT
Hell, go virtually anywhere in the world that doesn't exclusively use Kalashnikov designs and you'll probably trip over at least one AR-style rifle. For a jam-o-matic plastic toy that needs half a magazine to reliably put down an enemy, they sure are popular....... 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Carnack
Carnack
7. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 3:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 3:33 PM EDT
I feel the need to point out that 1 instance does not make a pattern.

Not saying anything one way or another but showing one instance does not always mean that it's the norm.

It's kinda like those rifle shots that drop someone from miles away. It's amazing and fantastic and makes you wonder how many times they tried it and failed.

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JasonRedfield
JasonRedfield
8. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 3:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 3:47 PM EDT
I too, think it's a bit naive to simply say "DI sucks and is unreliable". It's a blanket statement that is largely untrue. Both designs have inherent advantages and disadvantages to them. It truly depends on personal preference and how you plan to use the weapon in question.

That being said, I did hear about an armorer in the Army who had multiple DI guns put out of action in Iraq/Afghanistan from cracked gas tubes.
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zombiezlayer
zombiezlayer
9. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 5:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 5:06 PM EDT
"I too, think it's a bit naive to simply say "DI sucks and is unreliable". It's a blanket statement that is largely untrue. Both designs have inherent advantages and disadvantages to them. It truly depends on personal preference and how you plan to use the weapon in question.

That being said, I did hear about an armorer in the Army who had multiple DI guns put out of action in Iraq/Afghanistan from cracked gas tubes. "
it happens. But it not common. Most malfunctions are due to user level stuff, not cleaning the extractor, not lubricating the bolt or over lubing, or not staggering the gaps in the gas rings. But if a tube cracks, it's done. No fixing that in the field. Lol
I agree with you, the choice of weapon depends on the person in question. I can say one thing, if TSHTF anyone of us would be glad to have an AR. People can call it crap, but they wouldnt throw it away if they came across one lol.

Chitoryu, anyone that can take 15 5.56mm rounds before they go down are pretty BA. lol
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
10. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 5:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 5:11 PM EDT
Exactly who didn't get the sarcasm in my comment? Do you find this valuable?    
zombiezlayer
zombiezlayer
11. RE: Video for you guys who think Direct Impingement is not reliable
Nov 4 2011, 5:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 4 2011, 5:40 PM EDT
I got your sarcasm. but I guess mine wasn't so clear. I wasn't degrading your comment, just saying that I would like to see that tested. because they would Be someone I want on my side, unless the super human strength was a result of a drug addiction. Lol Do you find this valuable?    

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