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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
20. RE: Does Computer Count as Engineering?
Nov 8 2011, 11:49 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 11:49 PM EST
"Carpenter is a word that gets thrown around too much some days. I've met carpenters who don't know the difference between a miter and a pegged tenon. But I've met Programming students who can clean an AR blindfolded."
Like I said, personal attributes and skills unrelated to either carpentry or computer programming aside..... Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
21. RE: Does Computer Count as Engineering?
Nov 9 2011, 12:45 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 12:45 AM EST
"Like I said, personal attributes and skills unrelated to either carpentry or computer programming aside....."
Actually miter and pegged tenons are both basic joinery techniques used in carpentry. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
22. RE: Does Computer Count as Engineering?
Nov 10 2011, 11:13 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2011, 11:13 AM EST
Just checked and my workshop laptop has a bit over ten gig of assorted PDFs, eBooks and what-have-you on the subject of carpentry and furniture design. It also has the same Cad and modelling programs I have on my big machines so I can use the drawings and mods I make on more powerful machines.
The 3D Cad space is another workshop for me and the difference between Engineering and Computer-Engineering is . . . . fuzzy.

And I'd guess all the "What good are computers post Z-Day" threads are from folk who've never kept an expedition log on a digital device. Bet you wouldn't go back to paper.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
23. RE: Does Computer Count as Engineering?
Nov 18 2011, 7:03 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 18 2011, 7:03 PM EST
"Actually miter and pegged tenons are both basic joinery techniques used in carpentry. "
I have seen techies need assistance for putting a battery into a laptop, he wouldn't be much help if I needed a techie now would he?

Lets assume the comp programmer and the carpenter are 90% proficient in their respective jobs, which do you think will be more useful, not looking at other hobbies or skills Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
24. RE: Does Computer Count as Engineering?
Nov 18 2011, 7:26 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 18 2011, 7:26 PM EST
"I have seen techies need assistance for putting a battery into a laptop, he wouldn't be much help if I needed a techie now would he?

Lets assume the comp programmer and the carpenter are 90% proficient in their respective jobs, which do you think will be more useful, not looking at other hobbies or skills"
You can't really try to focus on just their careers though. The guy who writes code for a website could be pulling a Charles Dyson at home in his spare time. Like I said before, as part of the maker community I've seen plenty of people who do amazing things when they aren't at their 9-5.

Proficiency is relevant too. He may be a damn good carpenter by normal standards, but he may not know **** about making his own glues or about hand tools. Sadly the skills that would be relevant in our discussed scenarios are not relevant in modern society. Why should the carpenter bother making tenons with a hand saw when he can just rip them on a table saw?

Personally I wouldn't turn either of them away, both of them might be incredibly useful. As long as they can follow basic directions, i'm sure there will be a place for both of them. The only people I wouldn't deal with would be somebody like the performers from Easy Rider. Those ******* would get shot. Do you find this valuable?