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Sharpie41	In the same boat as WB....... Nov 7 2011, 11:54 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 12:03 AM EST I REALLY want to build an AR-15, chances are I will go with an NEA upper and stripped lower, but I have no idea where to go from there, does anyone have any brands to take a look at? Keeping in mind I am Canadian so do not recommend 30+ round mags (Can only use up to 10, and the 10 rounders are pistol mags) or silencers. Any suggestions on parts or on how to go about the build? Also chances are I wouldn't even start this until next year as I am saving for a trip to Ireland, and when you are recommending parts, only recommend brands, not where to get them. Thanks Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: AR-15 build Firearms Guns Weapons
Sharpie41	1. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 9:52 AM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 9:52 AM EST Wow really? NO one has tried yo give any advice? Are you all dead or something? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
randomknife666	2. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 10:01 AM EST "Wow really? NO one has tried yo give any advice? Are you all dead or something?" Err, no. Well, depends on how you want it set up, short range carbine, full size rifle, or mid size rifle. Tacticool, or not tacticool. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	3. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 10:06 AM EST "Err, no. Well, depends on how you want it set up, short range carbine, full size rifle, or mid size rifle. Tacticool, or not tacticool." Wow, usually I would have had 20 posts by now... Probably short range, but I may get an extra upper for long range. And yes tacticool Post reply Do you find this valuable?
randomknife666	4. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 10:17 AM EST "Wow, usually I would have had 20 posts by now... Probably short range, but I may get an extra upper for long range. And yes tacticool" Ok then, everything but the kitchen sink! On a more serious note, are optics on the table? And if so, any budget? Magpul has some nice stuff (stocks and whatnot). I'm not really an expert on AR parts and accessories, so I won't really go past that. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	5. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 10:56 AM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 2:01 PM EST "Ok then, everything but the kitchen sink! On a more serious note, are optics on the table? And if so, any budget? Magpul has some nice stuff (stocks and whatnot). I'm not really an expert on AR parts and accessories, so I won't really go past that." Eventually they will be, but not at first, no more than $300, preferably less... I was thinking MOE furniture Edit: MIAD not MOE Post reply Do you find this valuable?
possumblaster	6. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 4:33 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 4:36 PM EST The only brand when it comes to AR's is Bravo Company MFG. http://bravocompanymfg.com/ Not saying anything is wrong with the other brands, but BCM is thought of across the AR community as the best you can possibly buy. They are one of the few companies left that use true 11595E mil spec barrel steel, and still pressure test and inspect their bolts. Also they are one of the few companies that properly shot peens the gas keys on their bolt carriers. Little things like this add up with durability and reliability. You need to decide on a barrel length. 16" is what the normal shooter goes for. They look good with collapsible stocks. There are also 18" and 20" barrels that are normally used with a fixed stock. You need to choose a gas tube length as well. If using the standard handguards, then the gas system length will determine the length your sight radius which will come into play with accuracy IF you choose to stick with iron sights. If you want a short barrel and gas system, but a long sight radius, then you can put on a low profile gas block and run a rifle length free float handguard over the gas block, and then mount a flip up sight on the handguard to get a rifle length sight radius. That only really matters though if you choose to use iron sights. Good freefloat hanguards (Troy, ARMS, Daniel Defense, LaRue, etc) are very expensive. This is called a RECCE setup, here is an example: http://bravocompanymfg.com/specification/bcm_recce_16.php Despite common belief, the barrel length does not have any effect on accuracy. Barrel length will only give you more bullet velocity which means more range and less bullet drop at longer ranges. That is why I suggest just going with a 16" barrel for general purpose use. This will leave you with deciding on carbine or midlength gas systems. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
possumblaster	7. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 4:42 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 4:42 PM EST And this is what I would suggest to you for a starter rifle http://bravocompanymfg.com/specification/bcm_mid16_mod0.php Using midlength gas system and iron sights will give you a decent sight radius. Please stay away from cheap accessories when building an AR. If you can't afford a super nice optic then please, please, stick with iron sights. With this rifle I would get the old carry handle rear iron sight (a real one, there are cheap clones out there too) and then just leave it alone. Basically just get a good solid rifle to start with. Don't buy ANYTHING cheap for it, and just leave it alone unless you really really know what you want to do with it. The most you should ever put on it is a good (real good) dot sight as made by Aimpoint, EoTech, or Trijicon, and maybe a light (and I don't even like lights). Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
LJ126	8. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 4:43 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 5:04 PM EST I'd like an AR rifle, but I'm going to be honest... it's all out of my price range. But you get what you pay for. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	9. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 5:06 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 5:06 PM EST I was thinking the low profile gas block with flip up sights. I'm pretty much set on the NEA because they are Canadian, as for barrel length, I would look for a 16" barrel but I may go with a 14.5, ita gonna be restricted anyways so may as well make it worth it. I know my range sells troy handguards so I'll look at those first. And like I said, I want to build it, buying piece by piece so I can learn all of its parts so I won't be buying a complete rifle. As for glass, I know a place that has an Aimpoint Patrol Rifle Optic for $515, but my range sells trigicon and eotechs so I'll look at the prices of each, maybe get one eventually. There is also a Burris prism optic at this place for $399, heard anything about them? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
possumblaster	10. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 5:59 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 5:59 PM EST "There is also a Burris prism optic at this place for $399, heard anything about them? " Prism sights are not reflexive as far as I understand. They work more like a true 1 power scope, being that you have to have your eye in a certain spot to see through. A parallax free reflexive sight will hit as long as you can see the reticle, does not have to be centered. But if you are going that route you might as well stick with something that is battle proven like trijicon eotech and aimpoint, (just IMO). If the store sells troy rails and aimpoint sights then they probably know what they are doing and will probably give you sound advice. Be very wary of gun shops that specialize in NcStar optics, etc. Actually, since you are Canadian you might look at Elcan optics since they are made in Canada. Maybe you can get them cheaper than we can. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Sharpie41	11. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 6:42 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 6:42 PM EST "Prism sights are not reflexive as far as I understand. They work more like a true 1 power scope, being that you have to have your eye in a certain spot to see through. A parallax free reflexive sight will hit as long as you can see the reticle, does not have to be centered. But if you are going that route you might as well stick with something that is battle proven like trijicon eotech and aimpoint, (just IMO). If the store sells troy rails and aimpoint sights then they probably know what they are doing and will probably give you sound advice. Be very wary of gun shops that specialize in NcStar optics, etc. Actually, since you are Canadian you might look at Elcan optics since they are made in Canada. Maybe you can get them cheaper than we can." Haha, for fun I put a 1 power scope on my jungle carbine yesterday and I actually kinda liked the setup, gave RK an idea for a project gun. Yeah they're good guys, the follower on one of my mags broke and the just gave me a new one. The aimpoint and Burris weren't at the store that has the rails, the rails were at my range which is also a gun store. If you're talking about the C79 Elcan (the one that's on the C7 rifles) I hate them, 4 power with a thick reticle, though it does have a range finder on it (2 hash marks, at 300 m a person waist to head is between them, at 600 m a person head to toe is between them) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	12. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 7:39 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 7:39 PM EST "Prism sights are not reflexive as far as I understand. They work more like a true 1 power scope, being that you have to have your eye in a certain spot to see through. A parallax free reflexive sight will hit as long as you can see the reticle, does not have to be centered. But if you are going that route you might as well stick with something that is battle proven like trijicon eotech and aimpoint, (just IMO). If the store sells troy rails and aimpoint sights then they probably know what they are doing and will probably give you sound advice. Be very wary of gun shops that specialize in NcStar optics, etc. Actually, since you are Canadian you might look at Elcan optics since they are made in Canada. Maybe you can get them cheaper than we can." What no Tasco, Vortex or TruGlo? XD I'm sticking with iron sights on my carbine until I can afford something quaility. I'm actually very happy with iron sights so far. There was a definate learning curve with AR style irons. For a guy whos been shooting with buckhorn sights most his life I didn't know what to make of a peep sight. There are targets available on the net to print off for free that you can use to zero your iron sights in at 25 meters. If I'd slapped an Eotech on my carbine right after I bought it I would have never taken the time to get good with the iron sights. If you want any proof of Possum's claim about BCM carbines read about E.A.G Tactical's Filthy 14. A BCM AR-15 with a mid-length upper thats been fired over 30,000 times by thier students with little or no cleaning. Just plenty of lube. It goes to show what Stoner's design can do when the manufacturer stays true to or exceeds mil-spec. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
possumblaster	13. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 9:53 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2011, 10:09 PM EST " TruGlo? I'm sticking with iron sights on my carbine until I can afford something quaility. " LOL there is a local pawn shop here that specializes in utter crap accessories. I wonder how many AR's they have helped downgrade :) The factory AR15 iron sights are amazing. To this day I feel more comfortable with them than any other kind of sight or scope. The AR15 as designed, in bone stock configuration, is hard to improve on. That is why it takes some seriously expensive equipment to make it any better than it already is. Sharpie, I think you will be fine with picking out parts, just make sure to keep it simple. You can't really go wrong until you start bolting junk to it. Just decide if you want it to be a carbine or a rifle before you start building. Here's a suggestion for a stock, the Magpul UBR. It's pretty awesome I think. Allows you to keep a consistent cheekweld. http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6877/dscn1319600yw8.jpg I think it would work on a rifle or a carbine. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Sharpie41	14. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 10:15 PM EST "What no Tasco, Vortex or TruGlo? XD I'm sticking with iron sights on my carbine until I can afford something quaility. I'm actually very happy with iron sights so far. There was a definate learning curve with AR style irons. For a guy whos been shooting with buckhorn sights most his life I didn't know what to make of a peep sight. There are targets available on the net to print off for free that you can use to zero your iron sights in at 25 meters. If I'd slapped an Eotech on my carbine right after I bought it I would have never taken the time to get good with the iron sights. If you want any proof of Possum's claim about BCM carbines read about E.A.G Tactical's Filthy 14. A BCM AR-15 with a mid-length upper thats been fired over 30,000 times by thier students with little or no cleaning. Just plenty of lube. It goes to show what Stoner's design can do when the manufacturer stays true to or exceeds mil-spec. " The crappy sight I put on my No. 5 was a tasco... And I agree, irons for awhile, maybe upgrade to glass later on. I have the magazine that talks about it, I also have a mag that talks about the colt (same one as unassigned) and how it blew up. And blaster, definitely a carbine, maybe with a longer barrel for more accuracy, I'd like to eventually get a few uppers. Nice stock, something to keep in mind Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	15. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 10:40 PM EST What do you think of sabre defense? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	16. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 8 2011, 11:46 PM EST Hey TR whats the stock on your Flat Dark Earth (Tan) rifle? Checking out your profile for ideas Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	17. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 9 2011, 7:05 AM EST \| Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 7:05 AM EST "Hey TR whats the stock on your Flat Dark Earth (Tan) rifle? Checking out your profile for ideas" Magpul CTR. It has a MOE grip but I also like Tango Down's Battlegrip. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	18. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 9 2011, 7:52 AM EST \| Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 7:52 AM EST Accessories I would want on any AR I purchased or built? A BCM charging handle. Awesome add-on. Magpul's enhanced trigger guard. I just like it so much better than the straight trigger guard that comes standard. Change out the standard pistol grip for anything else. The standard grip that comes with most ARs is kinda underwhelming when you wrap your paws around it. Your standard fixed buttstock is pretty cool even though it looks old-fashioned. It's set up to hold a cleaning kit and could be used to hold other little survival goodies. I personally got wrapped up in all the knick-knacks and add-ons when I got into ARs. A standard model made with quality parts and a few personal tweeks is really all the average range hound needs. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	19. RE: In the same boat as WB....... Nov 9 2011, 2:12 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 2:12 PM EST Damnit, looking at prices and everything, I may just go buy a complete norinco AR, and eventually customize it, I know people that have norcs and they say they are just as good as the "real" ones Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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