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Frag-12	Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 9 2011, 1:30 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 1:30 PM EST Anyone planning implementing a Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics system or systems. What sources are you using to plan with? Do you plan on turning this into a business for your BOL? What breed of fish are you going to use for eating and etc? What vegetables and fruit are you considering in growing. Even if you do not what aquaponics is, please join the conversation. Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
zombiezlayer	1. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 9 2011, 3:16 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 3:23 PM EST "Anyone planning implementing a Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics system or systems. What sources are you using to plan with? Do you plan on turning this into a business for your BOL? What breed of fish are you going to use for eating and etc? What vegetables and fruit are you considering in growing. Even if you do not what aquaponics is, please join the conversation." I was looking into this... Most people use a hybrid tilapia. I have seen some built with 500 gallon kiddie pools or the 250 gallon farm chemical tanks and a pond fountain. Not sure about much of anything else used, except that duck weed its a must. Also, there are kits you can buy but they are a little expensive. Another thing to keep in mind, certain fish require license, like in TN you have to have a certain license to own tilapia. Will edit with a website I have seen with the legal aspects of it. Edit: http://tilapiafarmingathome.com/legal.aspx Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	2. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 9 2011, 3:34 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 3:34 PM EST Yes, I saw that some states require licenses for growing, raising, or keeping certain things. Excluding Falconry, my state is pretty relaxed. Make to purchase or build things that do not use toxic materials since you will be eating this stuff. Duck weed is very important and you can use it to grow your worms for the fish to keep the cycle going without dependency on outside resources. I was reading you can build a greenhouse with solar panels that will supply enough energy to run the aquaponics inside. I would add water reclamation and place the barrels inside the greenhouse to keep the water from freezing. In addition, run other water resources into just in case. If there is a shortage of water, I also read and saw someone drink from the outtake (not intake - blah) spicket for the fish tank. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Oakspar77777	3. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 9 2011, 7:12 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 7:12 PM EST I've been looking into one, but tilapia need heated water (unless you live somewhere warm all year round). Channel Catfish will likely be my icthus of choice, even in the greenhouse. I'm not a huge fan of solar as a long term solution, but I'm considering it if I can not come up with a better solution. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	4. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 9 2011, 11:29 PM EST The green house helps with the cool winter months since 4 season is the requirement. Solar will not be my only option, you always need a backup. In addition, the greenhouse can not be a wimp as well. In other words, I wouldn't want your normal every day house. It must be both tough and act as a greenhouse. After all, this is your food and perhaps your Pre-POC and PAW business or charity. If I add a fallout bomb shelter complex, I would see about adding one down there. You would either need a lot of fuel or make B100 bio-fuel for under ground operation. You definitely probably want cat fish for the underground facility, You can always mix your icthus above ground so you do not have to eat the same fish over and over again. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	5. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 10 2011, 2:50 PM EST I am quite surprise there isn't more attention to aquaponics. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
zombiezlayer	6. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 10 2011, 3:07 PM EST "I am quite surprise there isn't more attention to aquaponics. " Me too. I have been looking at this for quite some time now and am really excited to try it. I would think this is a must after Z-day. I plan on setting up one within a year or so, as long as the money is available. Here in TN it gets cold in the winter, cold enough that im not sure a greenhouse would be able to maintain a constant temp to sustain tilapia, my fish of choice. I mostly want to use them because the reproduction rate is extremely fast, they are pretty clean and disease free, high in protein, also they have a very plain taste. So, they have a tendency to take on the flavor of the food they are cooked into which eliminates the redundency of the same flavor day after day. I think this is a good subject, I just think there is not enough people that do it or know much about yet. The concept is still fairly new (few yearsp and only really appeals to preppers and environmentalist so it sorta limited. Lol Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	7. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 17 2011, 12:06 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 17 2011, 12:08 PM EST If you are in a mosquito infested area, make sure to add fish that will keep them low or non-existant in numbers. In other words, consider adding non-competive non-toxic maintenance fish into your tanks. Also consider breeding and raising worms for your Tapia. This way, you have a continue source of food for your fish that you can breed for a continue source of human food and fertilizer for your crops. Make sure to purchase surplus solar panels and make a reinforced greenhouse. Also consider adding water acclamation. Start thinking of other alternative energy methods to back up your solar primary. If you are in a windy TN area, perhaps you can use wind to power your pumps if solar fails. Of course manual is possible but I hear you have to turn on the pumps every 15 minutes for 15 minutes to make sure your fish do not die and that your plants are receiving what they need as well. I guess who ever the manual pumper will be is going to receive great exercise. You can use animals but you need to be careful with disease and the animal's health itself. Perhaps if you have an Aqua\Hydroponics greenhouse dedicated to raising Algae for B100 Biofuel, you can use a dedicated redundant pair of B100 generators as back-up. And I do not recommend using zombies as an alternative manual power source for your Aquaponics due to disease, escape, you becoming a statistic, and of course the smell... ;-) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
epic_epicness	8. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 17 2011, 12:14 PM EST lake trout, rainbow trout. the fruits and vegetables will rotate. I use an Ebb & flow (flood and drain) system along with floating pond trays. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
zombiezlayer	9. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 17 2011, 12:33 PM EST "I do not recommend using zombies as an alternative manual power source for your Aquaponics due to disease, escape, you becoming a statistic, and of course the smell... ;-) " Thanks for the info. it put a lot of ideas in my head that I need to think out before I sttempt this. Of course right now it is more of a dream I hope to accomplish in the next few years. Also, the idea of zombie power is hilarious. Lol Post reply Do you find this valuable?
epic_epicness	10. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 17 2011, 1:51 PM EST "lake trout, rainbow trout. the fruits and vegetables will rotate. I use an Ebb & flow (flood and drain) system along with floating pond trays. " my water pump is a simple mechanical windmill pump. I live in the southwest where windmill well pumps are a dime a dozen and are in random location all over the place. BLM uses them to make watering holes from wells for the wildlife. I have parts on hand to fix it as well as the ability to scavenge parts from the BLM pumps and my source of energy is the wind. if the wind stops blowing we have bigger problems than food. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
epic_epicness	11. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 17 2011, 1:58 PM EST "Yes, I saw that some states require licenses for growing, raising, or keeping certain things. Excluding Falconry, my state is pretty relaxed. Make to purchase or build things that do not use toxic materials since you will be eating this stuff. Duck weed is very important and you can use it to grow your worms for the fish to keep the cycle going without dependency on outside resources. I was reading you can build a greenhouse with solar panels that will supply enough energy to run the aquaponics inside. I would add water reclamation and place the barrels inside the greenhouse to keep the water from freezing. In addition, run other water resources into just in case. If there is a shortage of water, I also read and saw someone drink from the outtake (not intake - blah) spicket for the fish tank. " trout and tilapia love duck weed, you don't need the worms. between that and random insects you will never have to feed your fish. If you continue to feed them after the duckweed gets established in your spawning pools your water will become toxic and they will die..... unless you are using goldfish, they can live in insanely toxic environments. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	12. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 17 2011, 2:11 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 17 2011, 2:13 PM EST I was reading on one of the Aquaponics sites the farmer grows worms for their Tilapia but maybe her Duckweed isn't established? As for the insect, I read that at another website by adding other maintenance fish. Maybe they did not include that in their writing because either they are still learning or like UNIX gurus, they do not always include every method and let you discover it on your own. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
epic_epicness	13. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 17 2011, 3:39 PM EST "I was reading on one of the Aquaponics sites the farmer grows worms for their Tilapia but maybe her Duckweed isn't established? As for the insect, I read that at another website by adding other maintenance fish. Maybe they did not include that in their writing because either they are still learning or like UNIX gurus, they do not always include every method and let you discover it on your own. " fish are naturally cannibalistic, regardless if you feed them enough or not they will still eat the weaker fish in the pond. this is why most fish bait is covered in fish oil. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	14. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 17 2011, 11:27 PM EST "fish are naturally cannibalistic, regardless if you feed them enough or not they will still eat the weaker fish in the pond. this is why most fish bait is covered in fish oil. " Well if it isn't for food, it sure helps with competition issues too. The fish has to be really small to get eaten. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
epic_epicness	15. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 18 2011, 1:38 PM EST "Well if it isn't for food, it sure helps with competition issues too. The fish has to be really small to get eaten. " I have been doing this a long time on the side for spare cash. I started out building Hydro systems for stoners and rich people in my hometown. I live in the desert so people pay a premium for a system that will stay green year round and allow the dumbest of people to plant whatever they want. my point here is that aquaponics is a full circle system so it needs no maintenance unless you are using electronic pumps and timers. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	16. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 18 2011, 1:50 PM EST "I have been doing this a long time on the side for spare cash. I started out building Hydro systems for stoners and rich people in my hometown. I live in the desert so people pay a premium for a system that will stay green year round and allow the dumbest of people to plant whatever they want. my point here is that aquaponics is a full circle system so it needs no maintenance unless you are using electronic pumps and timers." Can't trump experience. I can only go by what I have read so far until I move to from a town house to a house for practical experience. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Uzzgub	17. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 18 2011, 8:31 PM EST i only heard about these kind of set ups a few days ago, and they sound fantastic, and i'm envious about you guys in the states who have the space to do this kind of things, and the fact that there cheap (relativley speaking) enough for you to set them up at home. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
epic_epicness	18. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 19 2011, 12:30 PM EST "i only heard about these kind of set ups a few days ago, and they sound fantastic, and i'm envious about you guys in the states who have the space to do this kind of things, and the fact that there cheap (relativley speaking) enough for you to set them up at home." the system is able to adapt to any space restriction. I built one a few months back that fits in a 6x6 closet. I can make it 60ft long and 3ft wide if needed. anyone can do this anywhere. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Frag-12	19. RE: Four Season Self-Powered Aquaponics Nov 21 2011, 9:59 AM EST "the system is able to adapt to any space restriction. I built one a few months back that fits in a 6x6 closet. I can make it 60ft long and 3ft wide if needed. anyone can do this anywhere." Epic, since you have more experience in Aquaponics than I do... What is the space requirement to raise fish for human consumption and sustain the fish crop? Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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