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WaffleTom
WaffleTom
Southern England plans
Nov 9 2011, 1:52 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2011, 1:52 PM EST
Hello, first post, i apologise for errors etc. This post is basically a call out to anyone in South England area who is open to discussing plans, survival tactics and other points open to discussion. I have searched the site and haven't really found anything of worth on this subject so thought it might be a good idea.
Thanks.
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webzell
webzell
1. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 11 2011, 9:21 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 9:21 AM EST
I am currently in the North East of England but grew up on the south coast! Do you find this valuable?    
cavscout888
cavscout888
2. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 11 2011, 9:32 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 9:32 AM EST
I mean absolutely no offense but you might want to discuss how best to discuss a riot since it's sooner to happen than any other event.

I feel for you guys over there, I wish you could legally bear arms.
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WaffleTom
WaffleTom
3. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 11 2011, 10:59 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 10:59 AM EST
Yeah, I think riots would be quite bad but i expect they would be worst in places like London and Manchester, judging by the recent riots anyway, which are far north of me. Ideas as to how to deal with a riot would be interesting? Do you find this valuable?    
cavscout888
cavscout888
4. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 11 2011, 11:45 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 11:45 AM EST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9TvtpydzjI

One view point, rather specific to the London riots too.
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webzell
webzell
5. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 11 2011, 1:00 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 1:00 PM EST
We can legaly bear arms but with a license & under very strict conditions & useage. I personaly am very greatful that guns are not so available as they are in other parts of the world as this will cut down on the amount of gun toteing maniacs come zombie time!

As for the riots i can assure you that every one in England was thourghly ashamed/disgusted by them, it is worth noting that they were mainly carried out by lazy scum & not wholey representative of our country as a whole. Every country has its troubles just look at Americas response to a crisis that happend in its own country the poor people in New Orleens were largely left to fend for them selves. Any way i feel we have got off topic slightly ;0)
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WaffleTom
WaffleTom
6. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 11 2011, 3:37 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 3:37 PM EST
Yes, back on topic; i have read your survival and plan and i must say, it is very well thought through and i cannot find any problems you haven't already. It's a bummer you are way up north and our plans would almost never cross unless under very strange circumstances; especially considering mine isn't finished, to be honest, i've barely thought it through :L whoops. I don't suppose yyou know anyone on this site who lives in the dorset or hampshire areas? Do you find this valuable?    
Markthegenius
Markthegenius
7. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 12 2011, 7:10 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 7:10 AM EST
"I mean absolutely no offense but you might want to discuss how best to discuss a riot since it's sooner to happen than any other event.

I feel for you guys over there, I wish you could legally bear arms."
Just so you know, the August London Riots were made much worse by those who had guns. Police were shot at in several places.
I'm all for legalising guns in principal, but there's so many people who can't be trusted with them in this country that I feel safer with guns being that much harder to come by
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Markthegenius
Markthegenius
8. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 12 2011, 7:17 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 7:17 AM EST
"Hello, first post, i apologise for errors etc. This post is basically a call out to anyone in South England area who is open to discussing plans, survival tactics and other points open to discussion. I have searched the site and haven't really found anything of worth on this subject so thought it might be a good idea.
Thanks."
Where abouts in the south do you live?
I used to live in london and when I did, my plan was to get out of there and back to the midlands ASAP. There's far too many millions of people living in the SE for my liking.

Besides, in the event of a nuclear attack, london would be the prime target. Saying that, I live about 10 miles from coventry, with it's massive industries.

Anyway besides population zones being a nuclear target, if the SHTF it's probably gonna happen to everyone, so the more people surrounding you, the fewer resources you're gonna get.

Feel free to look at my profile, I think I've done ok for a UK "prepper"...damn I hate that term...
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Uzzgub
Uzzgub
9. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 12 2011, 9:43 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 9:43 AM EST
"We can legaly bear arms but with a license & under very strict conditions & useage. I personaly am very greatful that guns are not so available as they are in other parts of the world as this will cut down on the amount of gun toteing maniacs come zombie time!

As for the riots i can assure you that every one in England was thourghly ashamed/disgusted by them, it is worth noting that they were mainly carried out by lazy scum & not wholey representative of our country as a whole. Every country has its troubles just look at Americas response to a crisis that happend in its own country the poor people in New Orleens were largely left to fend for them selves. Any way i feel we have got off topic slightly ;0) "
Here Here, and well said

It was dureing the riots that i ordered my main and secondary weapons, warhammer and trench hawrk from cold steel, did it on the sunday was with me by the tuesday so i felt a bit more relaxed about it all =)

I Live in the south east, just on the other side of the M25 to London in Hertfordshire =( Im in the middle of getting my plan on to my profile but i have most of it on paper and i'm just trying to build the cash for everthing i want.

IMO on zed-day most of the "sheep" will head for the coast or the channel tunnel so i think the zeds would head that way (so away from me, at least to beggin with anyway)
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WaffleTom
WaffleTom
10. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 12 2011, 4:14 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 4:14 PM EST
In dorset, basically on the coast :/ it's a bummer but hey, i can't move away exactly, nor can i buy a gun; i'm not 18 :(. Also, i am without a well thought out plan, hence this thread, so i could discuss or possibly even been part of other peoples plans. Anyone heading down here after Z-day? Do you find this valuable?    
webzell
webzell
11. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 13 2011, 7:23 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2011, 7:23 AM EST
Hello Waffle tar for the compliment i did spend quite a bit of time putting it to gether & actualy traveling the route before i commited it to paper so it is worth takeing a little time to think first.

Well i actualy grew up in Hampshire so i know the problem you face the whole south of England is possibly the most densly populated area in the whole country & the countrys administration (ie govermental stuff) is predominantly carried out there which means the army would probably be concentrated in that area (infact there are a ton of army bases down there) it still dose mean from the point of the adverage jo (or in your case WaffleTom) you are in one of the worst places as there are a lot of people all desperate to survive!

Hmmmm what to do Hmmmmm
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Sekirio
12. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 13 2011, 11:02 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2011, 11:02 AM EST
"In dorset, basically on the coast :/ it's a bummer but hey, i can't move away exactly, nor can i buy a gun; i'm not 18 :(. Also, i am without a well thought out plan, hence this thread, so i could discuss or possibly even been part of other peoples plans. Anyone heading down here after Z-day?"
There is no age restriction on a shotgun certificate, although it would need to be countersigned by a parent/guardian if under 18. You would also need supervision when shooting until you are 15. I guess it depends on how freaked out your parents would be with you getting one. I wouldn't suggest zombie survival as a good reason for ownership.
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WaffleTom
WaffleTom
13. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 13 2011, 12:34 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2011, 12:34 PM EST
"There is no age restriction on a shotgun certificate, although it would need to be countersigned by a parent/guardian if under 18. You would also need supervision when shooting until you are 15. I guess it depends on how freaked out your parents would be with you getting one. I wouldn't suggest zombie survival as a good reason for ownership."
Wow, didn't actually know that thanks! But to be honest i doubt very much that my parents would let me get a shotgun lol. Also, i don't live on a farm and am unlikely to join a shooting club so what other reason could be used?
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WaffleTom
WaffleTom
14. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 13 2011, 12:35 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2011, 12:35 PM EST
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Well i actualy grew up in Hampshire so i know the problem you face the whole south of England is possibly the most densly populated area in the whole country & the countrys administration (ie govermental stuff) is predominantly carried out there which means the army would probably be concentrated in that area (infact there are a ton of army bases down there) it still dose mean from the point of the adverage jo (or in your case WaffleTom) you are in one of the worst places as there are a lot of people all desperate to survive!

Hmmmm what to do Hmmmmm"
I didn't know there were army bases, would heading to one of those come Z-day be a plan or a fail?
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FrankLeeDeRainged
FrankLeeDeRainged
15. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 13 2011, 1:06 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2011, 1:06 PM EST
You are a young person in a country that frowns on owning firearms, you are however on the coast. . .

http://www.rya.org.uk/coursestraining/Pages/default.aspx

Almost anything that you could learn from the Royal Yachting Association would be useful in some way in a crisis. But specifically you can learn how to get the hell out of your current location with the minimum of agro ; )
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Sekirio
16. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 13 2011, 1:59 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2011, 5:11 PM EST
"Wow, didn't actually know that thanks! But to be honest i doubt very much that my parents would let me get a shotgun lol. Also, i don't live on a farm and am unlikely to join a shooting club so what other reason could be used?"
For a shotgun you don't need a reason as such. I recently applied and they have three uses it could be for - sport, vermin and game. It is up to the police to show you are not appropriate to own one, not for you to show you need one.
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cavscout888
cavscout888
17. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 13 2011, 2:33 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2011, 2:33 PM EST
A howitzer is classed as a shotgun I've heard.

I highly doubt it was the very few people legally allowed to own firearms that were shooting at police. It may have been the criminal element? And aren't people required to keep their firearms at the local ranges? Not the people using the farmer's rules, but metro owners.

And doing a little research, England isn't exactly the worlds perfect utopia when it comes to crimes involving firearms. I'm not too impressed when finding and comparing numbers, considering the US has SO MANY firearms, even "high capacity" handguns, rifles, and even shotguns.

If I lived there, I would own as many firearms as I could just to indicate what I wanted to the government. Never hurts to exercise what freedoms you still have.

Back to zombies, unless the military was advertising it, I wouldn't try a base. They would probably turn you away.
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Sekirio
18. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 13 2011, 5:21 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 13 2011, 5:21 PM EST
"A howitzer is classed as a shotgun I've heard.

I highly doubt it was the very few people legally allowed to own firearms that were shooting at police. It may have been the criminal element? And aren't people required to keep their firearms at the local ranges? Not the people using the farmer's rules, but metro owners.

And doing a little research, England isn't exactly the worlds perfect utopia when it comes to crimes involving firearms. I'm not too impressed when finding and comparing numbers, considering the US has SO MANY firearms, even "high capacity" handguns, rifles, and even shotguns.

If I lived there, I would own as many firearms as I could just to indicate what I wanted to the government. Never hurts to exercise what freedoms you still have.

Back to zombies, unless the military was advertising it, I wouldn't try a base. They would probably turn you away."
In UK law, a howitzer would not be considered a shotgun. There are fairly strict criteria regarding length of barrel, overall length, maximum bore and number of shots per cartridge to be considered a shotgun and not a more highly restricted firearm.
A fine example is that I will be buying a Mossberg 590, which will have to have an after market extender added to the barrel as the stock version is considered too short in UK law to be held on a shotgun certificate.
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webzell
webzell
19. RE: Southern England plans
Nov 14 2011, 3:17 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 14 2011, 3:17 AM EST
true as with every country now adays we have our problems with gun crime but i am still happy that guns are not readily availible as that way we dont have a lot of paniky ideots owning guns. Guns have there uses ie hunting, pest control ext & for any thing else its best to leave them to profesionals.

It is true any Army bases would be quite likely to turn you away or at best send you to a civilian refuge camp but personaly i would consider this to be worse than Bugging in.
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