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bomber99
bomber99
armor
Nov 10 2011, 6:17 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2011, 6:17 PM EST
Idea.Do you think zombies can bit through fire flightier gear.So you have a coat and armor in one 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Sullivan714
Sullivan714
1. RE: armor
Nov 10 2011, 6:39 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2011, 6:39 PM EST
We don't know because zombies don't currently exist. But can the human jaw have enough force to break through a fire fighter coat? I don't know but my guess would be no since those things have enough thick material to prevent fire from burning through it. immediately. Do you find this valuable?    
SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
2. RE: armor
Nov 10 2011, 6:40 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2011, 6:40 PM EST
"Idea.Do you think zombies can bit through fire flightier gear.So you have a coat and armor in one"
Probably not, but it'd be difficult to go about your everyday business. Try running, climbing, carry loads of gear, etc. for an extended amount of time in firefighter gear.

IMO, simply running away would be safer.
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bomber99
bomber99
3. RE: armor
Nov 10 2011, 7:11 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2011, 7:11 PM EST
"Probably not, but it'd be difficult to go about your everyday business. Try running, climbing, carry loads of gear, etc. for an extended amount of time in firefighter gear.

IMO, simply running away would be safer."
well if your trying to bomb a hord.......
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
4. RE: armor
Nov 10 2011, 7:41 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 10 2011, 7:41 PM EST
If you want armor that can handle a bite (though you're more likely to be facing animals in a post-apocalyptic world than zombies), go for leather. Do you find this valuable?    
Uzzgub
Uzzgub
5. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 7:06 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 7:09 AM EST
"Probably not, but it'd be difficult to go about your everyday business. Try running, climbing, carry loads of gear, etc. for an extended amount of time in firefighter gear.

IMO, simply running away would be safer."
you mean like on a hard day on the job for firefighters?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buncefield_fire (look at tackling the blaze, the firefighters who where at hemel station didnt get much of a break and where almost always suited up)

Now the suits in Britain would stop the teeth from going through but it would still hurt the where you where bitten
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bomber99
bomber99
6. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 10:19 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 10:19 AM EST
"you mean like on a hard day on the job for firefighters?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buncefield_fire (look at tackling the blaze, the firefighters who where at hemel station didnt get much of a break and where almost always suited up)

Now the suits in Britain would stop the teeth from going through but it would still hurt the where you where bitten"
ya hurt is better than dead
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OutlawJames
OutlawJames
7. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 10:43 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 10:43 AM EST
My only reservation to the firefighting gear would be weight, and trapped body heat, both will degrade your performance, however, that being said...
something is better than nothing especially if you know you cannot avoid getting up close and personal with uncle Zed.
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bomber99
bomber99
8. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 11:12 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 11:12 AM EST
"My only reservation to the firefighting gear would be weight, and trapped body heat, both will degrade your performance, however, that being said...
something is better than nothing especially if you know you cannot avoid getting up close and personal with uncle Zed."
and in the winter you get coat and armore in one
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bomber99
bomber99
9. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 11:13 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 11:13 AM EST
"and in the winter you get coat and armore in one"
armor
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anninhilator
anninhilator
10. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 12:37 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 12:37 PM EST
most people do not realize how easy armor is to make

you just need a workbench, some leather, iron or gold ingots or if you want a real good armor, some diamonds
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John_234
John_234
11. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 12:40 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 12:40 PM EST
"most people do not realize how easy armor is to make

you just need a workbench, some leather, iron or gold ingots or if you want a real good armor, some diamonds"
I want redstone armor. It doesn't exist yet, but when it does, it will be glorious.
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anninhilator
anninhilator
12. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 12:47 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 12:47 PM EST
ya, with a bit of resourcefullness you can make redstone armor too
Redstone armor is hard and also heats you and make you glow in the dark, awesome thing instead of carrying a flashlight with you. If you want to dim the lights, just wear a jacket.

Also, if you need power in your camp just hook it to the armor
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inu-dude25
inu-dude25
13. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 2:25 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 2:26 PM EST
"well if your trying to bomb a hord......."
If you can't spell horde, leave the explosives at home and get back to the fifth grade, knowledge will get you a lot further in a disaster than some fantasy DIY C4.
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anninhilator
anninhilator
14. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 2:34 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 2:35 PM EST
"If you can't spell horde, leave the explosives at home and get back to the fifth grade, knowledge will get you a lot further in a disaster than some fantasy DIY C4."
hahaha how dumb of you

are you sayeing that me cannot build teh bomb out of pianut butter(lots of carbon and celories, explodes well)and a bit of plastic explosives and survive the blast?

srssly, if my haloween carton armor can withstand a pellet gun, tape some aluminium plates(for food) on it and your basicaly a tank, russian forces during WW1.5 used that and teh number of injuries droped buy 75 %.

also fyi i has a bachelor degree at explosives(and i can carry 2 C4 charges in battlefield play for free adn i use them alot so i have experience with that !!!!!!!!11!!!eleven!1!!!1)
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Ready_For_Z-Day
Ready_For_Z-Day
15. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 3:19 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 3:19 PM EST
This guy has TWO threads in the hall of shame.
I have the unnatural desire to have a hall of shamer.
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anninhilator
anninhilator
16. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 5:39 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 5:39 PM EST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=J9qWtv_ATE0&annotation_id=annotation_353799&v=VJACFMc-Rb4 Do you find this valuable?    
SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
17. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 6:37 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 6:37 PM EST
"you mean like on a hard day on the job for firefighters?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buncefield_fire (look at tackling the blaze, the firefighters who where at hemel station didnt get much of a break and where almost always suited up)

Now the suits in Britain would stop the teeth from going through but it would still hurt the where you where bitten"
Well, the main difference I see between firefighting and surviving post SHTF is the distance you have to travel. Simply put, you can't run a long distance wearing firefighter gear, or you'll overheat no matter the temperature.

My rule of thumb for survival clothing is that if I can't run more than a mile while wearing it, then I don't consider it. I know some people are different than others, but I doubt there are many that say they have no problems wearing firefighter gear to a marathon.
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Rogue_Wraith
Rogue_Wraith
18. RE: armor
Nov 11 2011, 10:33 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2011, 10:33 PM EST
Don't wear firefighter gear for survival.

Just looking at my own kit (volunteer firefighter):

1) The stuff is hot. It does not "keep heat out" it insulates the firefighter. Which means, yes, heat stay out. It also stays in. We were doing training this week which consisted mostly of crawling around in 30-35 degree weather and we were all drenched by the end of it.

2) The boots are terrible. They are not designed for long-distance movement or comfort. They mostly keep things you step on from going through your foot - advantageous, yes, but not worth the trade off.

3) The helmets are heavy and awkward. They are designed to keep water and debris off your head. Unless you plan on entering buildings that are actively falling down (bad idea, zombies or no zombies) they provide more protection than you need. Plus, see number one. The helmets have shrouds that keep more heat in.

4) They are not bite proof, although it would take some effort. There are definite weak spots at the wrists and neck, plus the stuff will come apart with abuse.


About the only good parts come if you have high quality expensive gear - great pockets and gloves. I have the ability to break into and rappel out of most any building stored in just one pocket - and I have four pockets that size. My gloves - Pro-Tech 8 Fusions - are amazing.

Plus, how many sets of firefighter gear are you going to find intact post-Z-day? I would hazard that firefighters - like the police and military - are going to be pretty busy in the days leading up to and immediately after.
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Domdabomb
19. RE: armor
Nov 12 2011, 8:04 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 8:04 AM EST
"Don't wear firefighter gear for survival.
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agreed on that. if you want easy and effective gear, get yourself a leather jacket and a tactical vest with webbing. your arms and legs should be extra protected by something like mediveal greaves (shinpads are damn near perfect for this). this gives you a fairly lightwieght load, as close to completely biteproof as possible and with plenty of pockets etc in the webbing for storage of ammo etc.
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