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pyroblast1
pyroblast1
farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 9:42 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 9:42 AM EST
Ok so thay have tin dust bullets.(or composite bullets)Thay well go into you head and not come out the other side.A hit from one any were will kill you.So my idea is to grow bamboo grind it add wheat paste to it and load like a normal round. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Ready_For_Z-Day
Ready_For_Z-Day
1. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 10:22 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 10:22 AM EST
What?
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pyroblast1
pyroblast1
2. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 10:42 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 10:42 AM EST
"What?
0/10"
It's ammo you can make at home.Remember ammo worth a lot when it end's. Do you find this valuable?    
Sharkai
Sharkai
3. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 11:33 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 11:33 AM EST
I'm sorry I have no idea what you are trying to say. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
4. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 11:40 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 11:40 AM EST
He's talking about trying to make a composite ammo out of wheat paste and ground up bamboo. It wouldn't work. Do you find this valuable?    
anninhilator
anninhilator
5. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 11:47 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 11:47 AM EST
making ammo out of bamboo and wheat
That is not how it works.
When you go to highschool you will learn about energy, explosives, and general chemistry to be able to understand why that would not work. Try to google it if you really want to know.

The most basic explaination i can think of is that explosives have to have their own oxygen supply to, well, explode.
Bamboo and wheat do not

otherwise http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/26/f8822cc8-ac4b-4d37-8bbc-587fa275282d.jpg Do you find this valuable?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
6. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 11:58 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 11:58 AM EST
"Ok so thay have tin dust bullets.(or composite bullets)Thay well go into you head and not come out the other side.A hit from one any were will kill you.So my idea is to grow bamboo grind it add wheat paste to it and load like a normal round."
I take it that english isn't your native tounge? 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
epic_epicness
epic_epicness
7. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 12:19 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 12:19 PM EST
"making ammo out of bamboo and wheat
That is not how it works.
When you go to highschool you will learn about energy, explosives, and general chemistry to be able to understand why that would not work. Try to google it if you really want to know.

The most basic explaination i can think of is that explosives have to have their own oxygen supply to, well, explode.
Bamboo and wheat do not

otherwise http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/26/f8822cc8-ac4b-4d37-8bbc-587fa275282d.jpg"
OP is talking about making a composite projectile not a propellent and considering that door breaching rounds are made of compressed copper dust I wouldn't be so quick to discredit his idea. I just don't see why you would do this if you can just fill a 12ga with rocks. Do you find this valuable?    
pyroblast1
pyroblast1
8. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 12:42 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 12:42 PM EST
"OP is talking about making a composite projectile not a propellent and considering that door breaching rounds are made of compressed copper dust I wouldn't be so quick to discredit his idea. I just don't see why you would do this if you can just fill a 12ga with rocks. "
this is for the ak and other guns Do you find this valuable?    
anninhilator
anninhilator
9. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 12:53 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 1:11 PM EST
"OP is talking about making a composite projectile not a propellent and considering that door breaching rounds are made of compressed copper dust I wouldn't be so quick to discredit his idea. I just don't see why you would do this if you can just fill a 12ga with rocks. "
oh i see, tnx for the explaination

But IMHO, you will run out of explosives and everything else much before than you run out of projectiles Do you find this valuable?    
epic_epicness
epic_epicness
10. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 1:08 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 1:08 PM EST
"oh i see, tnx for the explaination

But IMHO, you will run out of explosives and everything else much before than you run out og projectiles"
you do know the difference between a propellent and an explosive right? Do you find this valuable?    
anninhilator
anninhilator
11. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 1:10 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 1:10 PM EST
"you do know the difference between a propellent and an explosive right?"
Yea, but most guns use explosives as propellent as far as i know. Do you find this valuable?    
pyroblast1
pyroblast1
12. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 1:12 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 1:12 PM EST
"oh i see, tnx for the explaination

But IMHO, you will run out of explosives and everything else much before than you run out og projectiles"
it's called black powder IS made in large batches and can be used in guns Do you find this valuable?    
anninhilator
anninhilator
13. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 1:16 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 1:16 PM EST
"it's called black powder IS made in large batches and can be used in guns"
It is possible and can be used, BUT

Mythbusters tried it and failed, so unless you can make some good black powder now, i wouldn't bet on it later, especially because it needs some materials you may not have access to Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
14. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 1:29 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 1:29 PM EST
"OP is talking about making a composite projectile not a propellent and considering that door breaching rounds are made of compressed copper dust I wouldn't be so quick to discredit his idea. I just don't see why you would do this if you can just fill a 12ga with rocks. "
Bullets made with powder metallurgy have enough hardness and mass to penetrate effectively. Compressed bamboo and Wheat just wouldn't have the mass you need, and Wheat would not be nearly effective enough as a binding agent. Do you find this valuable?    
pyroblast1
pyroblast1
15. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 2:14 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 2:14 PM EST
"Bullets made with powder metallurgy have enough hardness and mass to penetrate effectively. Compressed bamboo and Wheat just wouldn't have the mass you need, and Wheat would not be nearly effective enough as a binding agent."
dude/dudet wheat past is whats used in mortors on the 4th Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
16. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 2:35 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 2:35 PM EST
"dude/dudet wheat past is whats used in mortors on the 4th"
I don't care if it's what is used in motors on the 4th of July. I don't feel like it would survive the trip down the barrel. You'd be better off just holding the bamboo together with hide glue or resin, both of which would probably foul the barrel of your weapon.

Neglecting the issue with projectile durability. Let's say that it does make it down the barrel and to the target, it doesn't have enough mass to overcome the air resistance. Unless you were at dead point blank, the projectile wouldn't have any kinetic energy. Do you find this valuable?    
epic_epicness
epic_epicness
17. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 3:05 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 3:05 PM EST
"Yea, but most guns use explosives as propellent as far as i know."
I'll take that response as a solid NO. Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
18. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 3:13 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 3:13 PM EST
"you do know the difference between a propellent and an explosive right?"
You can't really make a big deal out of this epic.

Explosive: a reactive substance that contains a great amount of potential energy that can produce an explosion if released suddenly

Propellent: Something, such as an explosive charge or a rocket fuel, that propels or provides thrust. Do you find this valuable?    
anninhilator
anninhilator
19. RE: farming ammo?????????
Nov 12 2011, 3:27 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 12 2011, 3:38 PM EST
"You can't really make a big deal out of this epic.

Explosive: a reactive substance that contains a great amount of potential energy that can produce an explosion if released suddenly

Propellent: Something, such as an explosive charge or a rocket fuel, that propels or provides thrust."
YOU MISSED COMPRESSED GAS OMG OMG OMG!!!!


Anywaeyz, why is my response a solid no?
You'd be wrong in that way, Do you find this valuable?    
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