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dontsaythezword |
Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 5:32 AM EST
Hello,I currently work in a an office (on the top floor) in the center of Soho London. I have been appointed the task of setting the zombie escape plan, the zombie safety officer if you will. we have a small staff 6 people and have some shared roof access. can anyone provide advice on on escape and survival (of the whole team if possible)? Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
1. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 8:51 AM EST
"Hello,If there are rumours of zombies, don't go into work that day. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
FrankLeeDeRainged |
2. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 9:03 AM EST
Congratulations, because if we had a 'Hardest-row-to-hoe' prize you'd be a strong contender being as you are half a mile from the centre of a city of 20 million plus people with a medieval road plan, crap transport and brittle security services (as demonstrated by last summers riots).You specify an escape plan, any destination for that or do you just mean escape to anywhere? There is only one reasonably unblock-able route out of central London, only one way that cannot easily be closed by burning vehicles, crowds, military roadblocks etc and that's the river. Which raises almost as many problems as it solves. It would be my choice of route because in a pinch I could manage any vessel on the Thames at any time of year, barring the 'Ducks' (WWII amphibious DUWK's used for tourists) an I'd have a go at those if nessisary. On top of that I like being around the river and casing out the security of the rowing and sailing clubhouses, checking out what boats an whatever are around . . . Just comes naturally ; ) But to pull back and consider this strategically, assuming no one on your team has the experience to try the river route I'd advise holing up and waiting out the worst (the panic) then heading to Charing Cross Station and trying to walk out on the train-tracks. This is an open corridor with hardly any traffic therefore less potential problems. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dontsaythezword |
3. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 9:16 AM EST
first off, thank you, this is incredibly helpful. secondly, to answer your question, our direction for 'escape to' would be Brighton (as many of us have family there and would want to get to the sea). So south basically.any suggestions for things that we should keep in the office in case of such an emergency? baring in mind we have enough tea and coffee to keep us caffeine pumped for days. Do you find this valuable? |
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FrankLeeDeRainged |
4. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 9:29 AM EST
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Coffee dehydrates I'd skip that one ; )Small office building? Shared common areas? Let me guess, 1930 architecture, microscopic elevator, possibly refurbed recently for wheelchairs. Main access a staircase with two flights to a floor with steel handrails, possibly carpeted? Leased from a owner that is responsible for infrastructure like doors and security? The carpets in the staircases seem like a tiny detail. . . until you consider how effective a couple of gallons of oil on a concrete staircase can be. [edit] Okay heres something to keep in the office; a bunch of plastic traditional-type dustbins (trashcans) these can be stacked inside one another and filled with water at short notice -possibly from a fire-hose. And as clean water weighs about sixty pounds a cubic foot then trashcans full of water and stacked against doorways provide a rapid dual function barracade material. Obviosly they would need to be kept unused if you wanted to drink from them and you will need to have something to board over them to stack more full ones on top. Is that what you meant or are you asking about things like a dozen jars of peanut butter, being absurdly nutritious with its very very long shelf life. Or the pack of playing cards to pass the time or. . . 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Frag-12 |
5. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 11:51 AM EST
Like all city dwellers world wide, get out of town or whatever as fast and as safely possible during the day unless you have superior night vision goggles that do not give your position away. Cheaper night vision goggles glow in the dark especially those that use infrared. The reason why you move out during the day is because you are diurnal creature and strongest during the day. Do not go to some safety camp or follow authority's advice unless you know beyond a reasonable doubt they have things under control by force multiplier, proper weapons, martial law, and quarantine procedures. Do not let patriotic egotism affect your better judgment. Yes, that includes us Americans too. Make sure to arm yourself with legal weapons or improvised weapons. Just because you do not have a firearm, doesn't mean you can not survive. You definitely need to be prepared with a BoB and with a legal weapon that gives you 1 strike kill\knockout capability.The most ideal survival situation is living far enough way from the city to not be inundated with large refugees concentrations, looters, the cause of the event, and ETC but close enough to make 1 day supply runs. If you can find a way to live 2 to 4 hours outside of small towns, that is even better for a ZPOC situation. The more you can reduce stranger\Zombie population around you, the better. Lastly, if you can work from home, home school your children, and other things to keep away from large populations, the better. When you do go into town, make sure your BoB and legal weapon are legally stowed in your vehicle. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dontsaythezword |
6. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 12:12 PM EST
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well colour me impressed, you either have a vast knowledge of London office buildings or are watching me through binoculars. both are cool with me. this is very helpful stuff. and i was thinking more about helpful stuff like the dustbins but i did not know that about peanut butter! awesome.avoiding all area of 'safety' is my first priority but i feel cutting myself and (future) children from the outside might be a bit extreme, besides they come in useful as look outs or human shields or whatever. advice accepted by im English, theres no way im going to attempt any crisis without a cup of tea. thats just madness. Do you find this valuable? |
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Frag-12 |
7. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 12:33 PM EST
"advice accepted by im English, theres no way im going to attempt any crisis without a cup of tea. thats just madness.I love it! Just make sure to have your cup of tea when it is safe. I am not sure if British Zombies will take a break during tea time ... :-) I propose a thermos full of tea so you can drink it on the run ... lol 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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FrankLeeDeRainged |
8. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 1:04 PM EST
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"advice accepted by im English, theres no way im going to attempt any crisis without a cup of tea. thats just madness.My dear chap, I quite understand, that's why you'll be wanting a packet of 'Lifeboat' or 'Yorkshire' loose leaf tea in the back of the cupboard. They are both good strong cups and as loose-leaf, they will remain untouched as long as there is a nasty Tesco own brand teabag in the place. A Jif lemon also has a very good shelf life (no milk?) and is useful for many other things as well as tea. _ 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Randyofpirate |
9. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 17 2011, 1:16 PM EST
how about base jumping gear. Just saying. What if the building catches fire and you have to jump. But make sure the parachute pack has plenty of storage for your tea thurmos and many jars of peanut butter....and tea time in mid air will earn wicked style points
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dontsaythezword |
10. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 4:42 AM EST
this is an exceptional idea, unfortunately the building is only four stories high i and feel i would hit the ground long before i had a change to pull the chute cord or properly stir my first cup tea. nice thought though. and i guess, if in the panic, i find myself lost up another tall building (scavenging for food/survivors) it would be a very useful escape plan.exceptional choice of tea my good man. the loose leaf Yorkshire has will soon have a regular place in my survival pack. isn't Jif a Spanish cleaning product? Do you find this valuable? |
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FrankLeeDeRainged |
11. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 7:12 AM EST
I wasn´t going to mention the hight of the buildings in Soho in the hope that Randyofpirate would volenteer to show us how it was done.Jif used to make the plastic lemon of concentrated juice, since being bought by Colman's the company sadly only seems to sell it in boring bottles now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jif_%28lemon_juice%29 “Lemon juice is the strongest food acid in our kitchens, strong enough to make life unbearable for most bacteria,” - Robert Wolke, professor emeritus of chemistry at the University of Pittsburg. There are almost enough uses of Lemon Juice to start a thread here. _ Do you find this valuable? |
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dontsaythezword |
12. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 8:09 AM EST
that is easily the most i have ever laughed at a lemon based anything! brilliant :)maybe you should. lemons, your first and last defense again zombie attacks and random trivia. Do you find this valuable? |
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FrankLeeDeRainged |
13. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 9:12 AM EST
While its true that concentrated lemon juice squirted in the eyes would wipe the smile off the face of many adversaries (a) it might not work on a zombie and (b) you and your team have 55 miles to go to your principle destination so you might want to think about some more conventional weapons.Too much to hope any of your people are licensed for firearms? Probably not, then its bats, machetes and the odd axe (and a squeezy lemon if you want). There are a couple of places in central London to 'acquire' guns but they are all problematic, out of your way or both (thats for the benefit of the Americans here.) Waiting out the worst in a familiar place you have prepared. Then sensible clothing, good boots, a map or two (an knowing how to use them) plus bug out bags and readily available weapons all round and you have at least as good a chance as anyone else of making it out of London. The more thought and practice you give it the more chance your people have. (By bizarre coincidence I've just received notice that my presence is required in the UK, so next week I'll 'be in the same boat' so to speak) _ Do you find this valuable? |
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Frag-12 |
14. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 9:13 AM EST
"this is an exceptional idea, unfortunately the building is only four stories high i and feel i would hit the ground long before i had a change to pull the chute cord or properly stir my first cup tea. nice thought though. and i guess, if in the panic, i find myself lost up another tall building (scavenging for food/survivors) it would be a very useful escape plan.Yeah, 4 stories is not high enough for most chutes to deploy and even if it did, you will still probably hit the ground at 200 mph because there wasn't enough time to slow you down. If you didn't die on impact, you would be crippled for the oncoming hoard. In addition, you may not want to parachute down anyway. If you are in trouble being inside your building, my guess is you are not any safer down in the streets. Do you find this valuable? |
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FrankLeeDeRainged |
15. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 9:31 AM EST
"If you are in trouble being inside your building, my guess is you are not any safer down in the streets.correct up to the point where the building is on fire and the sprinklers have failed because there's no water pressure. But he mentioned shared roof access which is a fire security concept common in that part of town where the buildings have . . evolved in such a way as to render fire escapes ineffective. Some buildings around there (though usually taller ones) have hard points set into the floor for harness operations. There will be a triangle marker sign to the right of any window with this. And some buildings have the gravity-break escape harnesses, they were being phased out last I heard which was a pity 'cos they were a complete blast to play on. _ Do you find this valuable? |
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Frag-12 |
16. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 9:45 AM EST
Well, maybe the person will not reach 321 kph in approximately 12 meters but they will still be going fast enough to be either killed or severely injured. I have seen people jump out of a two story building and be injury free but 4 stories on to concrete will be probably be another matter.Do you find this valuable? |
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CurtisTaplin |
17. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 3:31 PM EST
Hi , well this is my idea first get everyone to make a B.O.B and store this somewhere safe in the office. You will also want to have crossbows and machete for your team.It will be worth having some crossbow practice! If your roof is big enough and you have roof access get a helicopter! (and learn how to fly) warning this will make a lot of noise and could attract some unwanted attention but it will mean you get to see Zombie density and travel long distances far!If this does not work make sure you have cars near by! Other members advice are probably better im only a noob. Do you find this valuable? |
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FrankLeeDeRainged |
18. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 3:59 PM EST
What is it with this thread, first parachutes now helicopters! I know I said transport in London is a nightmare but is this the best we can do? How about everyone in the office should chip in for a hot air balloon that could be stored on the roof. The prevailing winds in the Thames basin usually blow onshore in the morning and reverse in the afternoon and of course the burner can be used for brewing tea! _ Do you find this valuable? |
Uzzgub |
19. RE: Zombie survuval in London advice
Nov 18 2011, 5:27 PM EST
Unfortunately no weapon is legal on the streets of the UK =(with tools and kitchen knives you need to have proof of purches with you for that day or to prove your a worker who uses them if you get stopped by the police anything else will get you busted, and i can just imagen that our police would be arresting people for killing the zombies, instead of putting them down. but saying that keeping a baseball bat, a BB glove, and a ball in your car, you can say to any cops that stop you that you play the game and just havent taken it out of your car, the same with a cricket bat and ball + stumps (if you just have a bat they wont belive you). Or get thick chunky curtain polls for the office that you could use as a quaterstaff, or get a sledghammer/ machettes to hide in the cleaning cupboard, but be very carefull with that as others may find it. Do you find this valuable? |
