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oldannyboy37 |
1. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 3:35 AM EST
I don't think anyone want's to touch this one with a 10 and a half foot pole. For me............bad idea. Even if I were that desperate I doubt I could live with myself afterword. Do you find this valuable? |
Filadog |
2. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 4:10 AM EST
History is full of ordinary regular people, from the Donner party to the whale ship Essex crew that when desperate turned to cannibalism , I don't see why anybody would expect anything to be different with other people today.If we go by past examples very few people would choose to starve to death instead of turning to cannibalism Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
3. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 4:27 AM EST
"What are your thoughts on the topic.Context is king. When, where, why and who? Do you find this valuable? |
Carnack |
4. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 4:34 AM EST
"History is full of ordinary regular people, from the Donner party to the whale ship Essex crew that when desperate turned to cannibalism , I don't see why anybody would expect anything to be different with other people today."However those past examples also saw those who did it become ostracised by their communities because of all the taboos we have the Don't Eat People one was and still is very inflexible. If you do it you don't talk about it. Barring some severe collections of events of the craptastic variety I do not see cannibalism being considered. There are a lot of things we can eat first. The Donnor Party to use your example were in a new area during its most inhospitable (and then some) time. OP: Depends. Last resort only however. Cutting up and eating Aunt Marge will not do your mental stability any favors. Do you find this valuable? |
renet76 |
5. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 4:55 AM EST
" oh man i laughed so hard at that i have a nasty old aunt called Marge and i think she would not be very tasty at all sour old bag she is Do you find this valuable? |
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Filadog |
6. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 6:20 AM EST
"However those past examples also saw those who did it become ostracised by their communities because of all the taboos we have the Don't Eat People one was and still is very inflexible."Actually most of the crew of the Essex who killed and ate other memebrs of the crew after being left afloat in a small whale boat went on to continue to work on ships as they did befor with no evidence of them being ostracised. A couple even wrote accounts of thier ordeal including the cannabilism which they could easly have left out. After having another ship the Essex Capt. Pollard later retired back to Nantucket where they gave him the job of night watchman and again no evidence that he was ostracised at all None of them were ever charged with a crime by the way. I think people understod that desperate siturations called for desperate actions Do you find this valuable? |
Oakspar77777 |
7. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 12:48 PM EST
Cannibalism is dangerous. The odds of infection and parasite from eating the same species is high. HIV and Ebola are both thought to have entered humanity from eating "bushmeat" (monkeys). The simple truth is, the closer something is to you genetically, the more parasites and diseases you can share. Anything your Aunt Marge has, you can catch. Even cooking her extra well done will not protect you from all viruses, even if you wipe out the bacteria, parasites, and fungi she likely has post-apoc.Second, even if in an extream circumstance you end up resorting to cannibalism, realize that breaking that taboo is going to make it easier to resort to in the future. Odds are high that you will not catch some horrible disease (assuming Aunt Marge did not die of natural causes). However, the next tight spot, Grampa is going to start seeming more and more like an option in the food equasion. Eating your elders every winter seems like bad policy to me. Which leads us to third, there are long term consequences of cannibalism, the most obvious of which is a prion disease. Mad cow is the most famous example - along with the hand shaking cannibals in Book of Eli. There is a good chance that in the months following the apocalypse that cities with low rates of infection will spill millions of starving refugees into the countryside. Wildlife will be decimated along with crops in the fields. You might have to shoot them to keep them from stealing and spoiling your homestead. With wild game diminished, it might seems tempting to turn to cannibalism. Do not. Instead, with your non-infected dead who are not a part of your comminuty (and worth of burial), decide what to do with them beforehand. Some good options are - 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Oakspar77777 |
8. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 1:04 PM EST
1) Bury them like any other dead - this will help keep your group respecting the lives they take.2) Bury them in a hole and plant a fruit tree on top. The decomp provides root spacing, soil warmth, moisture, and fertilizer, but any biohazard is long gone before the tree comes to fruit. 3) Bury them in a compost pile deep enough to keep scavagers away. By the next year, they should be nothing but good soil and bone. A "hot" compost pile works best. 4) Cook them, then serve as animal feed. Chickens, pigs, and dogs all love extra protein and cooking destroys pathogens while keeping the animals from developing a "taste" for people (particularly important for hogs, that will not bond and can get to dangerous sizes). 5) Open dessication. This can be done on a hot surface (blacktop parking lot) or raised grids. Once a corpse is completely dry, it is harmless. 6) Use them as a discouragement to others. This can be as tasteful as a pile of corpses blocking a road a few miles from home, or as untasteful a frightening spectaicle as you can imagine. Do you find this valuable? |
cyrano222 |
9. RE: cannibalism
Nov 26 2011, 5:11 PM EST
I quote the immortal Jim Bridger (moutain man, trapper, general all around bad arse) " Shiiite boy meats meat"
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chitoryu12 |
10. RE: cannibalism
Nov 27 2011, 1:10 AM EST
Sometimes, you need to do what you can to survive.That's about it. Do you find this valuable? |
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Filadog |
11. RE: cannibalism
Nov 27 2011, 4:39 AM EST
"1) Bury them like any other dead - this will help keep your group respecting the lives they take.I believe most cannibalIsm would happen because people are desperate for food I think if you are in a situation where you can do any of these things you probably not to desperate for food , people on the verge of starving to death don't plant fruit trees thinking that several years down the road they might get an apple rather they need to get food as soon as possiable Do you find this valuable? |
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Oakspar77777 |
12. RE: cannibalism
Nov 27 2011, 10:21 AM EST
"I believe most cannibalIsm would happen because people are desperate for foodAnyone with a mulched flower bed and a shovel can likely turn over a pound or two of protein per hour anywhere except the frozen north and the desert. Yummy, healthy, earthworm nutrition. Cannibalism might take place in a scenario where food is unavailable, game is not to be had, and escape is impossible. That is a rare set of criterion, and if it should arise, cannibalism might be the only option. That said, it should never be an option. Never should it enter the equation of "What if?," because any preparation at all would have as its first goal the removal of the need for cannibalism. That list was there to encourage people to find ethical ways to recycle most efficiently the large quantities of free protein that will likely beset upon you if it appears that you have food or safety. After all, as foodstuff, proteins and fats are precious, and the amount tied up in humanity is tempting. Finding a way to safely turn a corpse into food is morbid, but wise, and will help keep you from needing cannibalism further down the road. Do you find this valuable? |
