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OutlawJames |
360. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 21 2012, 10:47 AM EDT
"Actually..NoT-Dog said he saw Andrea go down, which she did, but fought her way back out. Do you find this valuable? |
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RainofMails |
361. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 21 2012, 6:57 PM EDT
I don't think Rick went nuts at all with his Rant. The group is full of dumb people who do dumb things. Running a democracy full of dumb people is bad enough when things are going well, when things are bad it's an endless series of disasters.
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Carnack |
362. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 21 2012, 7:01 PM EDT
Well the problem is that he is only as in charge as the people allow.In short if they told him to get bent that is the limit of his power. Do you find this valuable? |
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RainofMails |
363. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 21 2012, 7:06 PM EDT
The thing is, Darryl and Hershel are both fine with Rick being in charge. I don't think anybody in the group is going to be willing to disagree with Rick AND Hershel AND Darryl.
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Carnack |
364. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 21 2012, 7:17 PM EDT
"The thing is, Darryl and Hershel are both fine with Rick being in charge. I don't think anybody in the group is going to be willing to disagree with Rick AND Hershel AND Darryl. "So what 3 people? Fact is that again unless the people accept the fact that you're in charge your are on shaky ground. What are Hershel and Daryl going to do? Do you find this valuable? |
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RainofMails |
365. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 21 2012, 7:35 PM EDT
More like, what is Carol going to do by herself? What are Glen and Maggie going to do, abandon Hershel and try and make it alone?
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TreeLegs |
366. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 21 2012, 10:39 PM EDT
"More like, what is Carol going to do by herself? What are Glen and Maggie going to do, abandon Hershel and try and make it alone?"Does have a point. Are you going to leave the closest thing you have to a doctor and two of the most combat effective people so you can assert your own independence? That seems like a terrible mistake to make this late in the game. Do you find this valuable? |
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thomas13mike |
367. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 12:32 AM EDT
Most people don't want to take charge in a situation like they're in. Most people would rather be followers. It's easier then having to live with the consequences of a bad decision. And the only one willing to do it is Rick. As long as he doesn't make any obviously bad calls they'll follow him. They wouldn't have gotten as far as they have without him and the numbers of the group and they all know it.
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Carnack |
368. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 1:03 AM EDT
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"Does have a point. Are you going to leave the closest thing you have to a doctor and two of the most combat effective people so you can assert your own independence? That seems like a terrible mistake to make this late in the game."The question is not wether they will leave the doctor and combatants. The question is wether the doctor and two combatants will leave them. Like it or not everyone better get clear that everything they do is done at the allowance of the group. Without the group you stand alone. If the group rejects you then it's not the group who is out. It's you. Now of course this could go easier but if the group decides to tell Rick to take his assertions and sit down Rick either takes his assertions and sits down or he leaves because like it or not the group collectivly offers more that Rick alone does. It's the classic question. What is a leader if no one follows him? What is a leader if the group does not aknowledge or follow his leadership? Do you find this valuable? |
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RainofMails |
369. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 1:08 AM EDT
Who else is gonna be the leader though? Hershel wants Rick to be the leader, so he won't do it. Darryl wants Rick to be the leader, he won't do it. Do you think the group would follow Glen or T-dog? They definitely won't follow Lori or Carol.
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TreeLegs |
370. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 1:25 AM EDT
"The question is not wether they will leave the doctor and combatants. The question is wether the doctor and two combatants will leave them.Now this I can see. As long as Rick is trusted, then people will keep him as the leader. That and no one wants the job and they know that. I can't see anyone else taking the job and keeping the group together. I feel if he leaves, the group will fracture easily. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
371. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 1:32 AM EDT
"Now this I can see. As long as Rick is trusted, then people will keep him as the leader. That and no one wants the job and they know that. I can't see anyone else taking the job and keeping the group together. I feel if he leaves, the group will fracture easily."Maybe so but a forceful leader who is blind to the disruption they represent and cause can be just as fracturing. There is leading and then there is leading well. The two aren't always hand in hand. Rick has the support of most of the people there. But the ones who do not support him can sway others and if he ejects them they will rip his legitimacy on their way out. Do you find this valuable? |
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timberrattler |
372. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 7:18 AM EDT
Rick stabbed his best friend in the heart because he wouldn't follow him. Everybody better recognize!If I was Carl I'd eat my vegetables when Rick told me to. They've went from being led by Jimmy Carter to being led by Ronald Reagan. 'Bout damn time IMO. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
373. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 7:23 AM EDT
"I think if you really go back and watch, they never have the camera on him to fire more than 4 or 5 rounds, the scenes were jumping back and forth so much. That then give them the out that " He was reloading when you were watching someone else almost bite it."Why give it away for us that didn't read the books. Don't matter, with the pace this show is going. It will take just two more shows before the stupid factor causes me to quit watching it. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
374. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 7:42 AM EDT
"The weight of a wife's opinion should carry weight i think. You don't marry someone you don't trust.You can trust your spouse. But that don't make the spouse smart. If I was a doctor and my wife was a typical hot co-ed studying art. You are saying her ideas as to proper surgery procedures should be really considered because I should trust her. I trust her heart and limited knowledge is in the right place. But that don't make her the expert and correct. Also trusted spouses have killed their mates for money and other things. Time and the ordeals of life can force people apart. Or just good sex from another and or no sex at home. There are thousands of reasons spouses don't trust. Plus I wouldn't trust Lorri now with washing dishes. There was no reason to tell Shane she didn't know who the father was. If she truly wanted Rick she would of told Shane it was Ricks kid, if anything at all. She just couldn't let go of her other man. Rick was to timid at first and Shane was the tough guy. Now Shane is dead and Rick finally found his set. He is almost a idiot but he is the smartest of the group in a crises. Do you find this valuable? |
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OutlawJames |
375. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 7:57 AM EDT
"Why give it away for us that didn't read the books.Sorry bout that. But its not really certain. They have and havn't followed the books. For instance Shane died WAY WAY earlier in the books, Otis died Way later.... and Daryl never exsisted in the books..so far as I have read. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
376. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 22 2012, 8:10 AM EDT
"Sorry bout that. But its not really certain. They have and havn't followed the books. For instance Shane died WAY WAY earlier in the books, Otis died Way later.... and Daryl never exsisted in the books..so far as I have read."It's cool just ribbing you. I know if it wasn't you someone else will do it for me. lol As for miss ninja with the zed pets. If I saw her coming my way I would shoot her crazy *ss then finish off the zeds. Anyone with two pet zeds missing arms & jaws on chains is to crazy for me, no matter her reasons. Can't trust someone that crazy. lol Do you find this valuable? |
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377. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 23 2012, 11:11 AM EDT
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"That would be Michonne. She is a major character in the series, and a definite ally. We will see (if she/the character, is treated correctly) that she is the one character that makes the series much more interesting, and without her, the group would fall apart. Do you find this valuable? |
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11ACRBlackhorse |
378. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 23 2012, 1:28 PM EDT
""and with her, the group would fall apart.""Hope you meant without her it would fall apart. We tagging on two threads. She might be Bruce Lee in drag as far as her abilities go, but she still one crazy broad with pet Zeds. I just wouldn't want them that close to be no matter her reasons and skills. I don't understand why if bitten by a Zed the virus kills you with a fever. But you are now supposed to be contaminated anyways. So why would the bite even matter or cause such a issue with fever and killing you. Just don't jive for my simple hill billy red neck mind. lol I thought it just ruined the theme. But that's just me I guess. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
379. RE: Episode For 3/11/2012
Mar 23 2012, 1:34 PM EDT
@ACR"You are saying her ideas as to proper surgery procedures should be really considered because I should trust her. " Now when did I say that? Never. Not once. What I did say is that you should trust her HOWEVER no trust should be blind. And regarding Shane her comments were in fact dead on. And what Lori said was irrelevant. She was having sex with two different men in a timeframe of only a day or so. It IS a tossup as to wether it's Shanes or Ricks and she could say it was whomever but the fact is that she has no basis for knowing it's one or the other. And both Rick and Shane would know that. As for Michonne I think the presence of her two companions keeps the Zs from noticing her. She's definitly a little crazy but it's Lecter Crazy. Not Throwing Feces Crazy. Do you find this valuable? |