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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 25 2011, 11:37 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2011, 11:37 AM EST
What do you think the population pyramid will look like, post outbreak?

It could be a lot of relatively young people, assuming they're the group most physically capable of escape, and generally hold up best in terms of health. Do you find this valuable?    
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
1. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 25 2011, 3:27 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2011, 3:27 PM EST
Top
1. Survivalists like us
2. Semi-prepared - hunters, sportsmen
3. the Lucky - people who managed to escape against all odds
4. Zeds
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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
2. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 25 2011, 5:57 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2011, 5:57 PM EST
I meant in terms of age and gender, but I suppose we can analyse your response.

Survivalists are varied, but mostly male. Not sure about age, real ones above 21 probably. Could be anything depending on whether survivalists successfully get their families to survive as well.

Semi-prepared: Hunters are all ages, mostly male, but again, depends who they decide to keep alive with them.
Sports people that survive are going to be overwhelmingly in the 16-35 bracket, gender balance could go either way.

The Lucky are also going to be overwhelmingly young, but they could be mostly women, as the males will be the ones fighting pointlessly (it's just in our nature as males), and women are more likely to be rescued, again due to nature. Do you find this valuable?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
3. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 25 2011, 7:19 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2011, 7:19 PM EST
I think you'll see a lot of blue-collar workers (20s - 30s). These people are pretty used to life handing them lemons and learning how to make lemonade, so they are probably less likely to give up in a zpoc.

I don't think you'll see many teens. I was a teenager once, and I still know a few. Hormones going nuts, finally old enough to do stuff on your own... a ton of really stupid decisions get made. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Zee-Man
Zee-Man
4. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 25 2011, 8:27 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2011, 8:27 PM EST
I can agree with that assessment. I wonder what the percentages would be.

1. Survivalists I think must be a small portion. Let me guess at maybe 5 percent.
2. the semi prepared I will put at 10 percent
3. The lucky Im going to put at a whopping 30 percent
4. and the zeds get their 55 percent.

Let me make a supposition about the survival rates though

1. Survivalists at 80 percent survival
2. Semi prepared at 10 percent
3. the lucky at 1 percent
4. and the zeds at 70 percent.

I dont have any concrete reasoning for these. This is pure guessing. Perhaps others have some demographical knowledge to bring to bear. Do you find this valuable?    
IrishHitman
IrishHitman
5. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 25 2011, 8:32 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2011, 8:32 PM EST
"I can agree with that assessment. I wonder what the percentages would be.

1. Survivalists I think must be a small portion. Let me guess at maybe 5 percent.
2. the semi prepared I will put at 10 percent
3. The lucky Im going to put at a whopping 30 percent
4. and the zeds get their 55 percent.

Let me make a supposition about the survival rates though

1. Survivalists at 80 percent survival
2. Semi prepared at 10 percent
3. the lucky at 1 percent
4. and the zeds at 70 percent."
Survivalists will survive to a near 100% rate, though my definition of a survivalist is strict, so strict that I'm not included in it (yet).

The semi-prepared will survive a lot more than 10% if they can link up with survivalists of the right mindset, but it isn't going to be more than 30% in the long term.

The lucky is impossible to know, depends on exactly how lucky we're talking about.

Zombies will eventually all die, unless there's a cure of some sort.. Do you find this valuable?    
renet76
renet76
6. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 25 2011, 11:51 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2011, 11:51 PM EST
There are far to many factors that influence the survivability rates for the different age groups

Each region would have different outcomes of what age group came out on top

The environment , lifestyle , type of work in the region , overall health conditions and so on would all slide the scales in different direction of who would survive and what age group would do the best

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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
7. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 26 2011, 12:06 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2011, 12:06 AM EST
"There are far to many factors that influence the survivability rates for the different age groups "
Yes, but there are general advantages that can be observed in each group, that apply across borders. Do you find this valuable?    
renet76
renet76
8. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 26 2011, 12:25 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2011, 12:25 AM EST
"Yes, but there are general advantages that can be observed in each group, that apply across borders."
Yes and no

take my locality for an example there are very few people in the age group from 0-25 that have ever been camping or lit a fire and diabetes , asthma , and allergies are rampart among them along with obesity if you were to ask me what age group would survive in my locality i would positively say the 30 to 40 age group as they are generally more aware of health issue's and have a greater range of skills plus they are the age group i see the most of playing sport and at camping sites
Yeah its tragic but true hit the hiking trails and you meet a lot of the 30 to 40 age group and when i go to the gym its the same age group again

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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
9. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 26 2011, 12:28 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2011, 12:28 AM EST
" diabetes , asthma , and allergies are rampart among them along with obesity"
That's somewhat of an exception that proves the rule, they're unrepresentative of the majority to a large extent. Do you find this valuable?    
renet76
renet76
10. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 26 2011, 1:03 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2011, 1:03 AM EST
"That's somewhat of an exception that proves the rule, they're unrepresentative of the majority to a large extent."

Not really its part of the influencing factors of the environment and lifestyle

the state i live in has the highest amount of smokers per 1000
and
the highest amount of alcohol related offenses and illness per 1000
for the whole country.
its tragic that you are more likely to be a victim of an alcohol related crime here then any where else in the country

yet strangely enough we have the lowest amount of people between the ages of 30 and 40 that smoke or drink regularly

But what is consistent with the rest of the country is childhood obesity, asthma and diabetes.
to take a national average for the country you would find that the age group between 28 an 40 would be the highest amount that survived simply because of the overall awareness now among them toward being healthy and active while the older people have a life time of damage to deal with and the younger ones cant get off their butts long enough to go outside apart from to get smokes of booze Do you find this valuable?    
IrishHitman
IrishHitman
11. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 26 2011, 2:03 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2011, 2:03 AM EST
While it's heading that way, I think you're exaggerating the effect at present. Obesity is a problem affecting all age groups at the moment in certain areas. Do you find this valuable?    
John_234
John_234
12. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 26 2011, 2:09 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2011, 2:09 AM EST
Like anything else, you're going to see common trends, but a difference with a zombie apocalypse and a standard disaster is that it's accessible to anyone, basically. The survivalist who would have avoided the earthquake might survive the zed poc at first, get mugged and die, and it wouldn't really be his fault for the most part.

Some fat, lazy gamer might survive simply because he's caged himself up in his apartment 24/7.

I have to disagree on blue collars surviving more, though. The closer you are to a public service role or any job in a population center, the more chance a given zombie or biological outbreak is going to kill you. Do you find this valuable?    
Zombot
Zombot
13. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 26 2011, 10:03 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2011, 10:03 AM EST
I hate to say it, but I think another group that would need inclusion would be the Alphas. I'm not one, and generally have...issues with them, but A) They tend to make decisions very quickly, B) people generally follow them, and C) they generally tend to be a little more fit. I'd be surprised if they weren't in the top 3 tiers, and if it's an Alpha Surivivalist, then they've got even more chance to survive. Thoughts? Do you find this valuable?    
IrishHitman
IrishHitman
14. RE: Population Pyramid: What will it look like?
Dec 26 2011, 10:24 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2011, 10:24 AM EST
Quick decisionmaking isn't necessarily a positive trait.

People follow them in social settings, because that's where they're dominant. A survival situation might not be the same, though they'll have early benefit of thte doubt, one mistake and they'll be out. BS like that is why I'll be promoting democratic ideas, returning to a tribalistic way of decisionmaking is silly.

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