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survivor4367
survivor4367
ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 7:21 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 7:21 AM EST
Main: Ruger 10/22 (AWC ultra II) http://www.awcsystech.com/products/suppressors/ultra-ii-semi-auto/
Sidearm: Ruger Mk. II (AWC amphibian S) http://www.awcsystech.com/products/suppressors/amphibian-s/
Backup: Colt Diamondback (Snubnose 2.5 inch barrel)

All the guns above share the same .22lr ammo. The first two guns are also supressor-equipped, a must have perk for Z-day firearms! Any thoughts appreciated.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
1. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 9:34 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 9:34 AM EST
I am a huge advocate for the .22 LR, but even I say it should not be the only calibre in your arsenal, and having the two silenced guns will get expensive, pick one or the other. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
2. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 10:21 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 10:21 AM EST
"The first two guns are also supressor-equipped, a must have perk for Z-day firearms! Any thoughts appreciated."
I dunno, man . . . I prefer "Lightweight Pro" and "Marathon." But that's just me . . .
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
3. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 12:04 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 12:04 PM EST
What are you goin to do when you come up against something other than a zombie? I.E other humans, wild animals, etc? I know you mention the diamondback, but it'd be difficult to fight off other armed humans with nothing but a snub revolver.

Speaking if which, any particular reason you went with the Diamondback as opposed to other revolvers? Just curious as to whether it was personal preference or there were any specific reasons.

Overall, if you actually had it, this setup is fine for zombies. But it would be less than ideal against any other threat.
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x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
4. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 12:08 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 12:08 PM EST
And what about when you run out of ammo? What melee weapons do you have? I know it says "ideal Firearms setup" for the thread name (Nice job with capitalization, by the way :), but I still would like to know. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
JunkCollector
JunkCollector
5. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 1:35 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 1:37 PM EST
@ Jim - Speaking if which, any particular reason you went with the Diamondback as opposed to other revolvers? Just curious as to whether it was personal preference or there were any specific reasons.

The Diamond Back is made by Colt and is a good gun at a decent price. I use to have one and it was reliable and a fun gun to shoot.

I'm planning on using for my Out of House load out an:
H&K MR 556 (AR-15) 5.56 or .223
Glock 22 .40 s&w
Keltec P 11 9mm
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Filadog
Filadog
6. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 2:32 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 2:32 PM EST
I think the two supressed ruger 22s are excellent choiced but if you are going to have another handgun why go with another .22..and why a Diamondback .22 snub?
I think it would make better sense to have a more powerful handgun to go along with the .22s I understand only having to have one cartridge but I would think 50 rds in a defensive handgun would last you a very long time

The Diamondback is an unusual choice since it is a pretty uncommon gun and I would say a .22 one with a 2 1/2 barrel is a rare gun.
It is basicaly a scaled down python [was also made in .38] and is a very well made and expensive gun, probably one of the best .22 revolvers ever made.
Made with very close tolerences and I don't know how well they would hold up to rough usage though

I would expect a real nice Diamondback .22 snub to set you back between $1,000 - $1,500 and not an easy gun to find
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
7. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 3:16 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 3:17 PM EST
As a note, At first I thought the OP was referring to the .38 version o the Diamondback. Didn't realize at first that it came in .22.
Edit: Looking back, he did say all the guns were in .22. Oops.

@JC: Makes sense to me. I'll have to look and see how much they're goin' for. Although, Smith and Ruger both make .22 revolvers with a higher capacity and a lower price. Not saying that they're better, I was just curious as to any specific reason. Also, based on what Fila is saying, it sounds like the Diamondback'd be hard to find.
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Spartan1190
Spartan1190
8. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 3:36 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 3:36 PM EST
I think people really underestimate Glocks for side arms. Ive flogged 100s of hours of range time with mine. Even in a jamming situation, which happens rarely, it is so easy to clear the chamber. Lock and rock your glock! 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
9. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 28 2011, 3:53 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 3:53 PM EST
"I think people really underestimate Glocks for side arms. Ive flogged 100s of hours of range time with mine. Even in a jamming situation, which happens rarely, it is so easy to clear the chamber. Lock and rock your glock!"
Meh, I've got no real qualms with Glocks; they can't be this popukar without being good guns. I'd actually like to try one soon. However, I just don't think they're the gun for me.
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John_234
John_234
10. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 29 2011, 8:40 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 8:40 PM EST
.22s are nice, but what happens if you run into a rabid dog? Or a person who isn't quite friendly? 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
11. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 29 2011, 9:04 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 9:04 PM EST
".22s are nice, but what happens if you run into a rabid dog? Or a person who isn't quite friendly?"
Pop in your 25 rnd. mag, pray your Ruger doesn't jam and send 25 CCI stingers down range, center mass as fast as you can pull the trigger?

Come on guys, double dueces don't bounce off a dude's chest like he's Superman.

That being said having a 1911 and a box of 50 .45acp couldn't hurt.

I've looked into suppressors and I never have been able to justify the expense and the hoops you have to jump through to have a gun with a set of ear muffs on it. I can buy hearing protection at Wal-Mart for twenty bucks.
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John_234
John_234
12. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 29 2011, 9:08 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 9:08 PM EST
"Pop in your 25 rnd. mag, pray your Ruger doesn't jam and send 25 CCI stingers down range, center mass as fast as you can pull the trigger?

Come on guys, double dueces don't bounce off a dude's chest like he's Superman.

That being said having a 1911 and a box of 50 .45acp couldn't hurt.

I've looked into suppressors and I never have been able to justify the expense and the hoops you have to jump through to have a gun with a set of ear muffs on it. I can buy hearing protection at Wal-Mart for twenty bucks."
That works. Hopefully. I'd rather have a long arm, though.

I just find three .22s is really limited on what you can do. A long arm, or a pistol in a defensive caliber would definitely expand your options.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
13. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 29 2011, 9:54 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 9:54 PM EST
"Meh, I've got no real qualms with Glocks; they can't be this popukar without being good guns. I'd actually like to try one soon. However, I just don't think they're the gun for me."
If you're ever in Alberta, send me a PM, I'll take you shooting.

John: I have a 30 round mag for my 10/22, *bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang* Dead dog, or dead person.

Do the Brits have such a huge expense when it comes to "sound moderators" I wonder..?

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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
14. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 29 2011, 10:39 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 10:39 PM EST
"If you're ever in Alberta, send me a PM, I'll take you shooting.

John: I have a 30 round mag for my 10/22, *bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang* Dead dog, or dead person.

Do the Brits have such a huge expense when it comes to "sound moderators" I wonder..?

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30 round mags are well and good, but when a person is shooting at you from >150 yards with a hunting rifle, it'd be hard as hell to hit them.

Also, if they have an AR or AK, you're definitely outmatched in firepower.

And thanks for the offer :) But I may just try to bum one off of the folks around us. Think one of my cousins has one.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
15. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 29 2011, 10:42 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 10:44 PM EST
"30 round mags are well and good, but when a person is shooting at you from >150 yards with a hunting rifle, it'd be hard as hell to hit them.

Also, if they have an AR or AK, you're definitely outmatched in firepower.

And thanks for the offer :) But I may just try to bum one off of the folks around us. Think one of my cousins has one."
That's why I wouldn't rely solely on a .22, as much as I advocate for them

No problem
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
16. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 29 2011, 11:14 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 11:14 PM EST
"That's why I wouldn't rely solely on a .22, as much as I advocate for them

No problem"
Exactly. That's what we're saying. The OP is relying solely on .22. Your post to John seemed to indicate that you viewed a 10/22 with a 30-rnd mag as a match for any person.
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Sharpie41
Sharpie41
17. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 29 2011, 11:38 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 11:38 PM EST
"Exactly. That's what we're saying. The OP is relying solely on .22. Your post to John seemed to indicate that you viewed a 10/22 with a 30-rnd mag as a match for any person. "
Within close quarters and without armor, yes.
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oldannyboy37
oldannyboy37
18. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 30 2011, 12:32 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 30 2011, 12:32 AM EST
I don't think it's a good idea to carry nothing but .22s for any kind of SHTF situation. They serve their purpose but if things get tight I'd much rather have the option of delivering a smack down if need be.
If we're talking about a Zed situation my ideal loadout would probably be something like this: Primary fighting rifle (My AK in this case), a secondary (This could be anything from a major caliber handgun like a Glock in 9mm or it could be my S&W .22, if I wanted to carry a .22 rifle it would probably be a Ruger 10/22 with a short barrel and a light weight (Possibly folding) stock that I could stick in my bag along with some magazines and a few hundred rounds, though I may just carry the S&W .22 instead.
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OutlawJames
OutlawJames
19. RE: ideal Firearms setup
Dec 30 2011, 12:49 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 30 2011, 1:32 AM EST
"If you're ever in Alberta, send me a PM, I'll take you shooting.

John: I have a 30 round mag for my 10/22, *bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang* Dead dog, or dead person.

Do the Brits have such a huge expense when it comes to "sound moderators" I wonder..?

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Only if the Bad guy doesn't have a bigger badder weapon than you...otherwise he may just cap your ass from beyond your .22's range, or before you manage to tap off more than one or two shots...One of my hunting buddies was hit by a .22lr while we were hunting and din't know it till we spotted his leakage.

@Spartan..Most people either like or hate the Glock, they dont underestimate it, they just dont like it. I dont care for it ( fit ,balance and trigger all bother me)and have not found it any better than any other semi auto I own. As far as clearing jams its not any easier than any other well made auto.
As far as jamming My main Colt 1911 has jammed 2 time in 40 years and 150,000 rounds, both times my fault
My Ruger P89dc has not jammed in 14 years and maybe 20000 rounds.
My Sterling M400 .380 jammed maybe 20 times the first year I had it ( then I reworked the extractor) and maybe 2 or 3 times since 30 years and maybe 15000 rounds
My Ruger Standard .22s mk I's & II's ( six alltogether) Never jammed that I recall. The one Mk I was my fathers and is 45 years old?!? and god knows how many rounds through it ( I learnd to shoot pistol on it) I just bought another used MK I yesterday
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