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redcomrad
redcomrad
The Redondo Republic(Basically ready now may need some edits though)
Dec 28 2011, 10:38 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 6:02 AM EST
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Post-Apocalyptic+City+Scenario

These our the immediate changes i shall make
Government- shall be turned into a Constitutional Presidential Republic with 3 branches of government

The Executive- will be headed by the chancellor who shall be both head of state and government
Will be directly democratically elected by the masses. Duty to enforce the law as written by the
legislature and interpreted by the judicial system, shall be allowed to veto legislation, complete authority over
the armed forces, allowed to call for military force with permission from Legislative and to call up the reserves.
Shall rule indefinitely after being elected, until death, abdication, or removal by national referendum.

Judicial: Shall be headed by the national Court composed of by 3 democratically elected judges.
Duty is to interpret the law. Will be allowed to declare constitutionality of Legislation and
interpret constitution, will preside over cases of impeachment and treason, will be given the right
to approve of petitions of removal of the Chancellor. Term length 5 years term limit unlimited

Legislative- shall be headed by the National assembly composed of 2 representatives from each "District"
there duty is the creation of laws. Able to give permission to chancellor for military action, Override
Chancellor veto with a 70% vote, pass laws with a simple majority vote. Term length 2 years term length unlimited

The Districts
The Outer lands(the farm)
the Inner lands(the general terraces, The grab n' go shop)
The Central(Primrose grange houses)
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redcomrad
redcomrad
1. Bill of Citizens Rights
Dec 28 2011, 10:52 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 3:57 AM EST
Bill of Citizen Rights
1. Right of Life, Liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness
2. Right of speech,assembly, and petition.
3. Right of free press
4. Right to an education
5. Right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,
against unreasonable searches and seizures without probable cause.
6. Right to a speedy, fair, public trial, and assistance of counsel for there defense
7. Right of affiliation, and religion
8. Right to bear Arms for Private use
9. Right of revolution of the people to dissolve the government and create a new one
and if no peaceful alternative can be found, for the people to violently overthrow it
"One who makes peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution uninvitable"
10. Right of suffrage
11. Right from forced quartering of soldiers out of war time
12. Right of all persons who have reached age 15 to vote
13. Right of Habeas corpus
14. Right to due process, and prohibits self-incrimination and double jeopardy without probable cause
15. Right from slavery and involuntary servitude
16. Right of Unenumerated rights
17. that all person born who's parents are both citizens shall be recognized as citizens
18. Prohibits excessive fines and overly cruel punishment.
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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
2. RE: Bill of Citizens Rights
Dec 28 2011, 11:02 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 11:02 PM EST
That bill of rights is a bit bare, isn't it? Do you find this valuable?    
redcomrad
redcomrad
3. Militia and Police
Dec 28 2011, 11:50 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 4:32 AM EST
Shall be be both dissolved and turned into the National Guard all members of the militia and Police will become part of Professional force there shall be

National Service- For all able bodied males ages 15-70 all will be required to register and will be required to if called to either help defend or serve 1 year of military service males who are unwilling or are incapable to serve combat service will be put into non combat units and for those who do not wish to do that either will have to serve 5 years of civilian service, females will also be given basic training and can also be called up to help defend if need be.

National Guard Sections
Offense:Will get former 30 militiamen and separate them into 3 10 man squads led by a Captain with one of the former police as Field General
1x shock trooper unit armed with the 5 automatic rifles and 5 shotguns and the machine gun. trucks for transport.
2x Trooper units with 1 automatic rifle each and 9 rifles each. trucks for transport

Defense: Will have my other former police officer also turned into a field general and he will be in charge of defense, he shall be given the former 3 deputies and 3 squads of conscripts. The squads of conscripts will be given pistols but all 3 deputies will be given shotguns and a Car. The conscripts will be trained by General, will use guns for raiders and renewable weapons for zombies(Bows, Javelins,Etc)
2x stationed at the wall to defend.
1x Squad put into reserve to support either just in case.
3 Deputies will patrol settlement constantly in car
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redcomrad
redcomrad
4. RE: Bill of Citizens Rights
Dec 28 2011, 11:51 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2011, 11:51 PM EST
"That bill of rights is a bit bare, isn't it?"
as i told you i'm still fixing up things Wait!!!
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redcomrad
redcomrad
5. Maintenance team and Farmers
Dec 28 2011, 11:52 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 12:33 AM EST
Maintenance team
Will from now on will be composed of persons doing the civilian service and also local volunteers also

Farmers with the reorganization of the Armed forces should be safer now but just for good measure the farmers will be incorporated into defense network will be taught how to defend selves better and will also be organized into a sort of secondary defense lines if our main line of defense is broken.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
6. Economy
Dec 29 2011, 2:36 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 2:36 AM EST
Economic Model: Interventionism will generally allow for free Enterprise and letting the Private sector deal with things but the government reserves the right to intervene in the economy if necessary.

Currency the establishment of a currency for the republic will be gradually implemented Bartering and taxes shall be aloud to be paid with either Coin, Item, or Service of equal Value.
Name: Redondo National Dollar
Abbreviation: RNP
Dollar Symbol: R
Cent Symbol: r
Sub unit: 1/100 cents
coins: 1r, 25r, 50r, 1R, 10R, 100R
Bank Notes: none
Central bank: Bank of the Redondo Republic
Mint: Redondo Republic Mint

Economy
Agriculture: shall put most strongest emphasis on an agrarian rather than a urban society will seek to privatize land giving farmers land of there own and will be the strongest section of the economy and most important will try to expand farming section and also start to establish ranching.

Manufacturing: will play minor role in economy and will be left to Private industry but government will be involved in weapons production industry though for better military sustainability and capability.

Mining: will be expanded on minority but will mainly depend on scavenging metals.

Health care: will mainly be kept Private but will be Taxed less and subsidized to keep costs low and accessible to majority of population.

Forestry: will help grow and will also give subsidies to help grow it.

Food and cooking: shall be privatized

Maintenance team shall be used to also help in building up defenses of land but will generally remain as they were.

Education: shall remain public and be made a requirement for all children. Shall be organized into primary school and secondary school each will last 5 years. primary school will be start for children at age 5. higher education for now will be fulfilled by apprenticeships.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
7. RE: Economy
Dec 29 2011, 3:07 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 3:07 AM EST
Taxes
Style: Flat tax rate

Income: Government May Tax a % of a Persons monthly income
Tax rate:10%

land: Government may tax a % of the Value of a persons Land every month
Tax rate:10% (Farmers Exempt)

Sale: Government may tax a % of a products value when it is sold
Tax rate: 2% for locally produced, 5% for foreign products (Farmers exempt)

Bank: Every time the Bank collects Interest From a Loan a % of it will be collected by the government
Tax rate: 25%
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redcomrad
redcomrad
8. Foreign policy
Dec 29 2011, 3:44 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 4:22 AM EST
Foreign policy: will primarily be non interventionist and semi isolationist unless somehow gains in some way otherwise generally preferring to be left alone caring far more for internal policy and generally keep doors closed to outside.

New Dawn Federation: will for now remain silent and will not make contact unless contacted.

Bayside Springs: will try to foster better relations

The Independent Trader's Union: Slightly hostile and will rarely cooperate with unless they offer something substantial if they attempt to limit in way will not be afraid to eliminate.

Raven's Peak: end negotiations not worth time

Adonias' Cartel: will deal with harshly and with extreme prejudice include those in community with ties to them.
Drug policy: all drugs unless they offer a important medical benefit including tobacco, will be made illegal those that are not illegally will be heavily regulated by government and will need prescription to gain

Raiders: will also be dealt with also if cannot convince ravens peak to negotiate, will deal with on own.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
9. Issues
Dec 29 2011, 4:05 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 4:23 AM EST
Stance on Issues

1. No stance at this time until we gain more information of new government.

2. break off all relations with ravens rock

3. willing to aid but demand they offer 25%

4. willing to listen and negotiate if they elect representative, warn that if they turn violent it will be considered an act of treason and will be dealt with as such.

5. implement new economic policies more quickly and sever relations with ITU and threaten armed action against if they constantly aggregate more. will create new working regulations

6. sever relations with ravins rock. ignore any attempts at communication for now

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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
10. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 4:21 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 4:21 AM EST
Have the police force seperate. Don't have the military policing the settlement it does not work. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
redcomrad
redcomrad
11. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 4:29 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 4:29 AM EST
"Have the police force seperate. Don't have the military policing the settlement it does not work. "
In technical terms they still are one of the cops in command of home forces hes just in technical terms been given more men but maybe your right will switch up conscripts with deputies to patrol. cops are most well trained of all my forces so i will use one as a general to train my offensive forces so that they will be more effective. Ohh and another thing your up early aren't you? Ive been working on my stuff all night almost finished.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
12. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 4:39 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 4:39 AM EST
"In technical terms they still are one of the cops in command of home forces hes just in technical terms been given more men but maybe your right will switch up conscripts with deputies to patrol. cops are most well trained of all my forces so i will use one as a general to train my offensive forces so that they will be more effective. Ohh and another thing your up early aren't you? Ive been working on my stuff all night almost finished."
Well I'd still be weary of combining both forces. It might be better just pairing a copper and a bunch of Militiamen.

I know it sounds daft but for some reason people see soldiers on the street and think "OMG we're under occupation!!!"

And so was I mate working on the plot of a Fallout piece I'm working on. Oh yh, birthday cake? *Hands over slice with of course of cup of tea*
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redcomrad
redcomrad
13. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 5:14 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 5:14 AM EST
the cake sure the tea depends whether or not its black or green? i like both but i prefer my black tea cold, and my green hot. Do you find this valuable?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
14. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 6:27 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 6:27 AM EST
Isn't this a bit much?

I guess my vision of post-apocalypse is different than most but if a large percentage of the population is dead and spread thin, are all these rules and regulations really necessary?

If there's just eight of you in a community and you're concentrating on staying fed and warm will there really be time for all of this?

I'm not saying these things to belittle you redcomrad, you've obviously put some thought into this and writing all of this down was no small feat. For that I praise you but as I've said, I have a hard time believing that this is all necessary.

Help me understand how, when the world's population has dropped dangerously low that all these people are going to be gathered together under one group and have need of so much structure.

I see a much more primitive form of government. Thats why I guess I've always had such a hard time understanding threads and pages like this one. That and my C+ average in social studies when I was in school. Me like to keep things simple, ugh.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
15. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 6:41 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 6:41 AM EST
"Isn't this a bit much?

I guess my vision of post-apocalypse is different than most but if a large percentage of the population is dead and spread thin, are all these rules and regulations really necessary?

If there's just eight of you in a community and you're concentrating on staying fed and warm will there really be time for all of this?

I'm not saying these things to belittle you redcomrad, you've obviously put some thought into this and writing all of this down was no small feat. For that I praise you but as I've said, I have a hard time believing that this is all necessary.

Help me understand how, when the world's population has dropped dangerously low that all these people are going to be gathered together under one group and have need of so much structure.

I see a much more primitive form of government. Thats why I guess I've always had such a hard time understanding threads and pages like this one. That and my C+ average in social studies when I was in school. Me like to keep things simple, ugh."
I will be doing my best to create the biggest (although controlled) population boom I can...
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timberrattler
timberrattler
16. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 7:25 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 7:25 AM EST
"I will be doing my best to create the biggest (although controlled) population boom I can..."
What will that involve?

Will you be proactive and have nomadic packs roaming the countryside looking for survivors or will you be passive and let them come to you? If you're passive it will take a long time to get many survivors. If you use nomadic rangers to spread the word of your community and to bring new sheep into the fold you might open yourself to the wrong kind of attention.

Not saying its a bad idea just opening your mind up to the dangers of getting too big too quickly.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
17. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 7:26 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 7:26 AM EST
"Isn't this a bit much?

I guess my vision of post-apocalypse is different than most but if a large percentage of the population is dead and spread thin, are all these rules and regulations really necessary?

If there's just eight of you in a community and you're concentrating on staying fed and warm will there really be time for all of this?

I'm not saying these things to belittle you redcomrad, you've obviously put some thought into this and writing all of this down was no small feat. For that I praise you but as I've said, I have a hard time believing that this is all necessary.

Help me understand how, when the world's population has dropped dangerously low that all these people are going to be gathered together under one group and have need of so much structure.

I see a much more primitive form of government. Thats why I guess I've always had such a hard time understanding threads and pages like this one. That and my C+ average in social studies when I was in school. Me like to keep things simple, ugh."
um timber this is as a response to Marsdens scenario just so you know so this is based of off that here is a link.
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Post-Apocalyptic+City+Scenario
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timberrattler
timberrattler
18. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 7:28 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 7:28 AM EST
"um timber this is as a response to Marsdens scenario just so you know so this is based of off that here is a link.
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Post-Apocalyptic+City+Scenario"
Thank you.
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redcomrad
redcomrad
19. RE: Issues
Dec 29 2011, 7:29 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 29 2011, 7:29 AM EST
"um timber this is as a response to Marsdens scenario just so you know so this is based of off that here is a link.
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Post-Apocalyptic+City+Scenario"
ohh wait did i tell marsden... oh wait i did never mind you think hell be okay with it it took me like 2-3 hours, 3 sticks of corn dogs, 3 chicken wings, and 2 zingers dam.
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