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KingOfZombieland |
waxood staff
Dec 31 2011, 6:06 PM EST
i know that shaolin monks have made excellent staffs out of this type of wood. it is light and very flexible but durable enough to break open clay baked pot ( which is much harder than a z-skull) so you could sharpen one end to a pointfor penetration and the shaft itself is hard enough to colapse skulls
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brandon_a_boyer |
1. RE: waxood staff
Dec 31 2011, 7:06 PM EST
"i know that shaolin monks have made excellent staffs out of this type of wood. it is light and very flexible but durable enough to break open clay baked pot ( which is much harder than a z-skull) so you could sharpen one end to a pointfor penetration and the shaft itself is hard enough to colapse skulls"If you feel confidant enough to defend yourself with a staff, go for it. I would point out though that the clay pot is a pretty poor comparison. While the clay may be harder than bone, The comparison you are looking for is impact strength. Do you find this valuable? |
epic_epicness |
2. RE: waxood staff
Dec 31 2011, 7:38 PM EST
"If you feel confidant enough to defend yourself with a staff, go for it.I agree with Brandon here, baked Clay is much more brittle than human bone. Do you find this valuable? |
x-wolfhunter |
3. RE: waxood staff
Dec 31 2011, 8:33 PM EST
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"If you feel confidant enough to defend yourself with a staff, go for it.Heeeeey, Brandon, we all knew you wouldn't stay away for long. Good to see you here again. Happy New Year! And yeah, a staff is a good backup weapon. You can make one very easily (I see branch. I cut branch. I have big stick to hit bad dead people with) and you can make about eighteen thousand of them a day (Only slightly exaggerating) so even if one breaks somehow you're good. However, I would not recommend planning around the staff. I would choose something sturdier and more reliable (And lighter with more uses) as my main melee weapon, such as "Timber's Hammer" (http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/photo/10628214/Timber%27s+Warhammer) or even just a regular old woodcutting ax. Do you find this valuable? |
Zee-Man |
4. RE: waxood staff
Dec 31 2011, 8:52 PM EST
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Good thoughts, a skull is "one of the least deformable substances found in nature with it needing the force of about 1 ton to reduce the diameter of the skull by 1 cm" [Holbourn, A. H. S. (1943). MECHANICS OF HEAD INJURIES. The Lancet, 242: (6267), 438-441] I wonder what a good analogy would be for testing purposes.Let's google "human skull analogue". WOW! ZDSW has loads on it, I will condense.....most agree that a pig skull is an appropriate analogue. No real suggestions on where to get one. Best suggestion was to find a pig farmer and ask where he sells his stock.Found this tidbit, hard hats must be able to resist impact of 150 G for side impact. [ http://www.tasco-safety.com/hhats/standards.html ] Do you find this valuable? |
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KingOfZombieland |
5. RE: waxood staff
Jan 2 2012, 10:46 AM EST
i see your point. i myself would nt recomend a staff as a kill weapon but if your about t be swarmed it would be handy to have a weapon capable of at least knocking them away so you could escape
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KingOfZombieland |
6. RE: waxood staff
Jan 2 2012, 10:49 AM EST
"Good thoughts, a skull is "one of the least deformable substances found in nature with it needing the force of about 1 ton to reduce the diameter of the skull by 1 cm" [Holbourn, A. H. S. (1943). MECHANICS OF HEAD INJURIES. The Lancet, 242: (6267), 438-441] I wonder what a good analogy would be for testing purposes.Let's google "human skull analogue". WOW! ZDSW has loads on it, I will condense.....most agree that a pig skull is an appropriate analogue. No real suggestions on where to get one. Best suggestion was to find a pig farmer and ask where he sells his stock.i read that same thing, but the way i understod it it sounded like they ment if you put equal pressure on the entire skull at once. Do you find this valuable? |
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x-wolfhunter |
7. RE: waxood staff
Jan 2 2012, 10:50 AM EST
"i see your point. i myself would nt recomend a staff as a kill weapon but if your about t be swarmed it would be handy to have a weapon capable of at least knocking them away so you could escape"Indeed. It's a very good backup weapon. Do you find this valuable? |
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Zee-Man |
8. RE: waxood staff
Jan 2 2012, 4:35 PM EST
Staves and sticks are very effective melee weapons. In other threads there is discussion as to if you even need to do a head shot. Most agree that a head kill is needed for ultimate destuction (short of burning), but some believe that a disabling blow is enough. Cripple it and get the time to crush the head sort of thing.There are plenty of Youtubes showing Escrima and other staff / stick fighting methods. Just like guns, though, untrained usage is likely to get you killed. Do you find this valuable? |
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KingOfZombieland |
9. RE: waxood staff
Jan 3 2012, 9:02 PM EST
id say that while a head shot is effective in killing it does present a problem with dealing with a swarm. personally i say just break the jaw the take away the biting capability of the said zombie, or take out the knee to slow it down
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DonovanRichter |
10. RE: waxood staff
Jan 5 2012, 6:35 AM EST
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"... or even just a regular old woodcutting ax."=^_^= Totally King, a staff should make a much better escaping weapon/tool than a killing weapon/tool. Practice with a buddy to figure out it's limitations and usefulness. Some pointers, they really aren't good at sweeping people to the ground... maybe if you're really good at it, but don't bank on that one without tons of experience, in which case you should be telling me a thing or two =^_^= Instead, you may even have better luck jabbing at the patella in hopes of breaking it. Lots of accuracy and a little luck would be required and remember, all low attacks reduce your range. =*_*= Straight jabs are good at holding people back, in a sense. A blow against a living target who feels pain should hit solidly and at about the center of gravity (Normally I advise against this, but using a staff gives you enough distance (Barely!) to keep the zombie from falling right toward you.) Zombies might not respond much to a blow to the side of the head for disorientation, and may keep coming... It might not have enough energy to stagger an attacker who doesn't feel pain. Jabs would likely glance off the skull, but could potentially knock them over. And toy around with this, learning how to break an opponent's grasp on you using the staff as a pry bar. Kicks may be involved. Keep in mind the zombie's posture of having it's arms outreaching, you may find it easy to push the zombie's body by applying force to the upper arm, shoulder, arm pit regions (practice so the staff doesn't glance off, and yes this requires a strong stance. =*_*= After such an off balancing maneuver you may find that you can easily hook the staff around the back of the neck to drop the staggering zombie to the ground. =^_^= Don't try this part on the person seriously though! =O_O= Do you find this valuable? |
