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LJ126
LJ126
LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 13 2012, 4:28 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2012, 4:31 PM EST
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/LJ%27s+Bugout+Bag+-+January+2012

Check it out, let me know what you think. As indicated at the bottom, it's not perfect, but maybe you guys will see something that I've missed. There are a lot of pictures, but I've tried to reduce the photo size to a point that download will be easier... hopefully that helps.

Thanks again guys!
~LJ
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
1. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 13 2012, 5:28 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2012, 5:28 PM EST
My biggest problem is that apart from a civie jumper I intend use everything will be my military gear, although I suppose it will be different circumstances.

1. Where will your ammo pouches and knife be stored?

2.I wouldn't attach things onto the out side of your bag like that. The last thing you need is getting it caught on something whistle it waves about. You also need to think about battle rattle.

3. I don't trust any out side pockets that cannot be sealed. Are you 100% certain the items cannot fall out?

4. The cooking gear looks, from here, quite big. Have you ever seen "mess tins" or our our ones anyway. Smaller, better compact. The same goes for the was kit. Mine is very well compact but holds quite a bit.

5. What kit do you have with the pocho? (Pegs? Bungees?)

6. There are a lot of shiny things in here and believe it or not even something as small as a watch can give you away.


Once I', able to make my own artical I will post you my BoB and show you what I mean. Good to see you have a note pad, know how to use your comms and, a you waterproofed things! Give that man a cigar!

*Hands it over*...
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LJ126
LJ126
2. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 13 2012, 7:03 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2012, 7:03 PM EST
!) The knives already live in my 72-hour kit, upright and along one side of the first aid kit, or in the side mesh pocket. One of the ammo pouches would live on my belt, the other in the bag, and I'd to keep the one on my belt topped off as time permits.

2) The canteen is attached to the bag only so that I know exactly where it is and don't have to go look for it if I've gotta bug out in a hurry. Like the ammo pouches and other stuff, it'd get moved to my belt as well. The whistle... well, the likeliness of it catching on something is pretty slim but I guess it could happen. I think a more likely occurrence would be my hydration bladder hose catching!!

Battle rattle is definitely a concern; with no clothing to insulate items, running would be pretty LOUD. Walking, not so much. I've taken the kit hiking out off the Rio Grande and it wasn't too loud.

3) Answer two actually addresses this too. The poncho and veil aren't going to fall out, nor is the bandanna and flask. The others will get moved to more appropriate homes.

The two-way radio would be removed from the side pocket, batteries placed into it and clipped either to my belt or directly to one of the shoulder straps on my bag, as it does have straps specifically for radios and angle-headed flashlights. The multi-tool is going to be attached to my belt, next to the hunting knife.

4) The mess kit is pretty big. I do want to replace it. Something smaller would be a lot handier.

5) Inside the PSK in my outer pocket on the bag, there are a few brass hooks and 3" nails. I've also got some random cordage that could be used to suspend it up for shade.

6) My kit definitely isn't very stealthy. That's a hard bullet to dodge when using civilian gear. I could probably black out

BTW, thank you for the critique, I really appreciate the pointers.
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
3. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 13 2012, 9:18 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2012, 9:18 PM EST
5 separate ways to start fire. I like that. You could add some steel wool. 000 will catch and burn almost as fiercely as the magnesium but it can be ignited with 3V from batteries. I wonder if a solar charger might do it. This is a firestarting method that ignores wetness for the most part.

What I really wanted to post was a question. While you have some great means of making fire, how ready are you if they all fail or get lost?
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timberrattler
timberrattler
4. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 13 2012, 11:59 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2012, 11:59 PM EST
The only thing I might do differently is add something small for packing the items you use the most.

I realize you'll probably fish most of that stuff out and add it to your pockets but it'd be nice to have it organized and within easy reach.

As far as blacking the shinny stuff out. They make cammo paint now that will stick to anything, even plastic. As far as blued guns as well as stainless ones believe it or not grill paint would work in a pinch. It wouldn't be affected by the high heat generated from firing a gun.
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Liftheavy
Liftheavy
5. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 1:53 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 1:53 AM EST
I understand that you don't need extra clothes, but I'd definitely bring an extra pair of socks. If you step into something wet, or based on where you are, on a prickly pear that would slow you down faster than anything. Also, I don't know how tight your poncho is, but I'd bring a trash bag if not a pack cover for the bag if it rains. Do you find this valuable?    
epic_epicness
epic_epicness
6. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 2:44 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 2:44 AM EST
"5 separate ways to start fire. I like that. You could add some steel wool. 000 will catch and burn almost as fiercely as the magnesium but it can be ignited with 3V from batteries. I wonder if a solar charger might do it. This is a firestarting method that ignores wetness for the most part.

What I really wanted to post was a question. While you have some great means of making fire, how ready are you if they all fail or get lost?"
I came across an item online a few days ago called the "forever match". It works like a zippo but instead of a rolling striker you have a steel stick with a cotton wick. I like the concept because it keeps the fluid in a sealed container so it wont evaporate like the fluid in a regular zippo.
right now I have 5 key chain zippo fuel bottles in my BOB along with a bag of spare flints, a few wicks, 2 spare zippo lighters, A blast match, and a mag block.
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LJ126
LJ126
7. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 9:22 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 9:41 AM EST
"5 separate ways to start fire. I like that. You could add some steel wool. 000 will catch and burn almost as fiercely as the magnesium but it can be ignited with 3V from batteries. I wonder if a solar charger might do it. This is a firestarting method that ignores wetness for the most part.

What I really wanted to post was a question. While you have some great means of making fire, how ready are you if they all fail or get lost?"
If all five ways to make fire fail or get lost, I have the worst luck in human history! Seriously, if I had to bug out, my bag would go literally everywhere with me - I'd protect it as I would my own rifle. It wouldn't leave my side or sight.

However, for that kind of emergency, I do keep a waterproof wallet in my back left pocket and in that there are three books of matches (amongst other stuff.) It goes basically everywhere with me. I should probably get a mini-Bic and stick it in there too.

In terms of primitive firestarting, I think I'd probably try to extinguish every "modern" form of fire before I resorted to rubbing sticks together. One can punch a hole in the fuel tank of an abandoned car to get some fuel, then break into it and pop the hood, and provided they have even the slightest charge on their battery you can make a spark with that over the borrowed fuel. Voila, fire!

However, if I had to make a "natural" fire, I live in the right place in the world for dry stuff. It's essentially a desert here.
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LJ126
LJ126
8. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 9:33 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 9:33 AM EST
"The only thing I might do differently is add something small for packing the items you use the most.

I realize you'll probably fish most of that stuff out and add it to your pockets but it'd be nice to have it organized and within easy reach.

As far as blacking the shinny stuff out. They make cammo paint now that will stick to anything, even plastic. As far as blued guns as well as stainless ones believe it or not grill paint would work in a pinch. It wouldn't be affected by the high heat generated from firing a gun."
Those are good ideas. I could separate the frequent use stuff into another pouch, then stow that away on top in the backpack. There's still a fair amount of space in the bag in case I've gotta tote more food or other stuff, and it would free up space elsewhere in the kit.

I was thinking about refinishing the M38, as the shellac on it is pretty torn up and it's very shiny. However, at some point I would like to replace the rifle with something else (Savage scout?) so I'm reluctant to mess around with it too much.
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LJ126
LJ126
9. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 9:39 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 9:39 AM EST
"I understand that you don't need extra clothes, but I'd definitely bring an extra pair of socks. If you step into something wet, or based on where you are, on a prickly pear that would slow you down faster than anything. Also, I don't know how tight your poncho is, but I'd bring a trash bag if not a pack cover for the bag if it rains."
The poncho is pretty loose and will cover up the pack. That's definitely one of the advantages of going the ultra-light route! =) I might throw a trash bag in there just to be safe though; the whole "one is none" thing applies here in a big way.

Regarding clothing, throwing a change of socks and underwear in there is a good idea, as it wouldn't take up much (if any) space. That'd also give me some padding between loud, clanky items, like the messkit and first aid kit in there.
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LJ126
LJ126
10. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 9:41 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 9:41 AM EST
"I came across an item online a few days ago called the "forever match". It works like a zippo but instead of a rolling striker you have a steel stick with a cotton wick. I like the concept because it keeps the fluid in a sealed container so it wont evaporate like the fluid in a regular zippo.
right now I have 5 key chain zippo fuel bottles in my BOB along with a bag of spare flints, a few wicks, 2 spare zippo lighters, A blast match, and a mag block. "
Sounds like a neat lighter!
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Zee-Man
Zee-Man
11. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 10:26 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 10:26 AM EST
"Voila, fire!"
Honestly I had no doubt. I asked specifically to get your "alternative" response since I was sure you had at least one.

Here's another using a car and a pencil.
Shave the pencil wood away to expose the "lead". suspend the lead between jumper cable leads to create a carbon resistor which will glow white hot for several minutes.
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Bigralph
12. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 10:41 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 10:41 AM EST
Thats pretty awesome. Any other fire starting techniques? Do you find this valuable?    
epic_epicness
epic_epicness
13. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 11:47 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 11:47 AM EST
"Honestly I had no doubt. I asked specifically to get your "alternative" response since I was sure you had at least one.

Here's another using a car and a pencil.
Shave the pencil wood away to expose the "lead". suspend the lead between jumper cable leads to create a carbon resistor which will glow white hot for several minutes."
nice, making a graphite heating element from a pencil. good thinking Zee!
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JunkCollector
JunkCollector
14. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 12:44 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 12:44 PM EST
Will you carry supplies for "the boy" (assistant MRE tester) or will his supplies be shared between Maricety and yourself or is he large enough to carry his own BOB.

Will having a child change your idea of what your BOB(s) will have to do, to give care, feed, water, and shelter yourself and a child? Having a child will hinder your speed and limit the distance of travel, which may require more food and water.

I'm just wondering because my new girlfriend has a 4 year old son, and I am trying to plan part of my BOB for a child.
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epic_epicness
epic_epicness
15. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 2:40 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 2:40 PM EST
"Will you carry supplies for "the boy" (assistant MRE tester) or will his supplies be shared between Maricety and yourself or is he large enough to carry his own BOB.

Will having a child change your idea of what your BOB(s) will have to do, to give care, feed, water, and shelter yourself and a child? Having a child will hinder your speed and limit the distance of travel, which may require more food and water.

I'm just wondering because my new girlfriend has a 4 year old son, and I am trying to plan part of my BOB for a child. "
my 4 year old daughter is in a phase right now where she carries a BOB of sorts with her everywhere she goes. she fills it with random junk, toys and trinkets but its a backpack (not a purse). She is so used to carrying it that I don't think she would have a problem lugging most of her own gear. It would surprise most people to see how strong kids are when they are not babied so much.

My 8 year old (daughter) can pick me up. I'm not a big guy (as most can see from the pic) but that's still a considerable amount of weight for someone so tiny.
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cavscout888
cavscout888
16. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 3:14 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 3:14 PM EST
Not a bad BoB bag LJ, but I'm far from the BoB bag expert.

One thing I noticed, more about the canteen than anything else. You may want to put heavier items as close to your back as possible for better balance. Otherwise your pack seems twice as heavy and like it's trying to twist you over backwards.

Good to see the back has a sternum strap and waist belt.
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timberrattler
timberrattler
17. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 6:22 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 6:22 PM EST
"Those are good ideas. I could separate the frequent use stuff into another pouch, then stow that away on top in the backpack. There's still a fair amount of space in the bag in case I've gotta tote more food or other stuff, and it would free up space elsewhere in the kit.

I was thinking about refinishing the M38, as the shellac on it is pretty torn up and it's very shiny. However, at some point I would like to replace the rifle with something else (Savage scout?) so I'm reluctant to mess around with it too much."
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/Timberrattler%27s+EDC

That little black pouch in the picture cost me $6.95 at a hardware store. Its a technicians tool pouch. You could modify it a bit for survival gear but things you'd use a lot like a mini-mag, a multi-tool and some kind of firestarter would easily fit in a pouch like this.

The best thing is that it will mount to a belt vertically. They did that so it could fit to a pair of suspenders but it'd also fit nicely over the straps on a backpack.

I actually prefer a set of small vice grips to a multi-tool. A set of locking pliers has dozens of uses and is something I find a use for everyday at work.
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Maricely
Maricely
18. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 8:19 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 8:22 PM EST
"Will you carry supplies for "the boy" (assistant MRE tester) or will his supplies be shared between Maricety and yourself or is he large enough to carry his own BOB.

Will having a child change your idea of what your BOB(s) will have to do, to give care, feed, water, and shelter yourself and a child? Having a child will hinder your speed and limit the distance of travel, which may require more food and water.

I'm just wondering because my new girlfriend has a 4 year old son, and I am trying to plan part of my BOB for a child. "
Having to prep for a child definitely changes your BOB. EJ has his own bag but it's only the bare essentials because he's not big enough to carry everything he needs (he's 3 years). He has a change of clothes, a water bottle, some food, a coloring book and a flashlight and whistle. Other than those few things, me and LJ carry everything else.

Is your new girlfriend on board with the whole survival thing?
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timberrattler
timberrattler
19. RE: LJ's Bugout Bag - Updated
Jan 14 2012, 8:31 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 14 2012, 8:31 PM EST
"Having to prep for a child definitely changes your BOB. EJ has his own bag but it's only the bare essentials because he's not big enough to carry everything he needs (he's 3 years). He has a change of clothes, a water bottle, some food, a coloring book and a flashlight and whistle. Other than those few things, me and LJ carry everything else.

Is your new girlfriend on board with the whole survival thing? "
Holy crap! A whistle. I hadn't thought of that. Very important survival item for a child.
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