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Sharpie41	Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 11:24 AM EST So in the traffic jam thread I mentioned that I wanted to build myself a truck shotgun, well I have 2 shotguns in mind for this, both Rem 870s, ones a 20 ga express compact model, the other a 12 ga Wingmaster (28 inch barrel) now what I can't decide is which to make my truck gun, the 20 ga is already compact enough to make it my truck gun but I would rather a 12 ga just so it's common, but I would have to get a shorter barrel and new stocks (not in very good condition, what do you expect for $150?) so my question is, which should I pick? The 20 because it's suitable, or the 12 (and customize it first) because it's common? Thanks for any reply's Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: 12 gauge 20 gauge Firearms Pump action Remington 870 Shotgun Truck Gun
randomknife666	1. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 11:35 AM EST "So in the traffic jam thread I mentioned that I wanted to build myself a truck shotgun, well I have 2 shotguns in mind for this, both Rem 870s, ones a 20 ga express compact model, the other a 12 ga Wingmaster (28 inch barrel) now what I can't decide is which to make my truck gun, the 20 ga is already compact enough to make it my truck gun but I would rather a 12 ga just so it's common, but I would have to get a shorter barrel and new stocks (not in very good condition, what do you expect for $150?) so my question is, which should I pick? The 20 because it's suitable, or the 12 (and customize it first) because it's common? Thanks for any reply's " Well you know I'm a 12 gauge kinda guy, so asking me might not be the best idea, but I would go with 12 gauge. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
zombiezlayer	2. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 11:53 AM EST I'm probably not the best to ask either because I am a huge advocate of commonality of rounds. The easy answer would be the 20 gauge because it is already suited. But i would too go with the 12 gauge. Why? 1. More "umph". 2. You guessed it, common rounds. It is the most common shot shell. From hunting, to law enforcement, even military. 3. There several types of rounds. You MAY come across like rubber bullets, bean bags, frags, etc. Do I think you are going to come across these, probably not. But I would hate to holding a 20 if I did. I have a question. Is the 12 gauge chambered for 3.5 in shells? This would mean maximum chance of finding useful ammo once you run low or just luck up on some. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JunkCollector	3. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 12:04 PM EST I would go with the 20 gauge for now, then save up some money for a 12 gauge tactical style shot gun. I don't see a reason to buy a 12 gauge, just to put more money in it than it cost to make it what you want, when you can save up and buy the 12 gauge you desire and that works best for the purpose. The 20 gauge will handle any situation you may come up against. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Filadog	4. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 12:17 PM EST I don't understand why a 28 inch barrel shotgun would be to long to keep in your truck but if you just want a shorter gun would be no trouble to cut the barrel back to 18 inch. I've done more then a few and just used a hack saw. Downside perhaps is that you won't have a choke but for close range work maybe not that important. Very easy to remount a front sight but probably not needed What is wrong with the stock that you need a new one/ In my experance pretty rare to find a stock that can't be repaired so that they are serviciable I think a 20 ga. is a poor choice because it isn't as powerful or as versitile as a 12 ga. and it's ammo is not near as common. Why choose something that handicaps you? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	5. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 12:24 PM EST "I'm probably not the best to ask either because I am a huge advocate of commonality of rounds. The easy answer would be the 20 gauge because it is already suited. But i would too go with the 12 gauge. Why? 1. More "umph". 2. You guessed it, common rounds. It is the most common shot shell. From hunting, to law enforcement, even military. 3. There several types of rounds. You MAY come across like rubber bullets, bean bags, frags, etc. Do I think you are going to come across these, probably not. But I would hate to holding a 20 if I did. I have a question. Is the 12 gauge chambered for 3.5 in shells? This would mean maximum chance of finding useful ammo once you run low or just luck up on some." The current barrel is 2.75, but I am wondering it the receiver is long enough for a 3 inch chamber. Fila, no trouble except legally.... The stock is very battered, and I've water damaged my 840 stock with an inadvertently opened water bottle, I want a synthetic stock. A 20 isn't a handicap, yes it is less powerful but it would definitely kill whatever you wanted Post reply Do you find this valuable?
LJ126	6. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 12:34 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 17 2012, 12:36 PM EST I think just about any rifle in a "real" caliber would do just fine as a behind-the-pickup's seat, in the toolbox or back of the SUV gun. A shotgun would be just fine too, though I'm more partial to rifles. If I gotta fight my way back to my car, I want to have a serious upgrade in firepower from whatever I've got on me. If it punches through armor or helmets, even better. Because of this, I were picking a rifle for a daily driver it'd probably be any inexpensive bolt or lever action rifle chambered in a full-power cartridge - .30-30 and up. I want something with some real punch and the capability to reach out and touch someone. I wouldn't throw a really high-dollar rifle in a vehicle because the odds of your car being broken into or stolen outright are much greater than being in a legitimate life-or-death self-defense situation, especially where I live. Said criminals would love to get ahold of your guns, so they need to be hidden from plain sight. Taking all of the above into consideration, if I were to throw a rifle into our family Jeep Liberty, a surplus Mauser/SMLE/Mosin/Springfield '03/Carcano/whatever else, packed into a nondescript black hard rifle case would be ideal. I'd probably keep that covered up with a folded tarp, then stack Maricely's truck survival kit on top of that. If the car or stuff was stolen, it's not like I'd be out a whole lotta money, nor would I have armed one of the cartels or local gangs with something spectacular either. However, said rifle is a pretty big jump in firepower from my normal CCW rig. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	7. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 12:57 PM EST My SKS might be good, or my Lee-Enfield but my gf won't shoot them (Lee for recoil, SKS because she doesn't like it) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JunkCollector	8. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 1:17 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 17 2012, 1:31 PM EST I was thinking while watching the news and eating lunch that I actually have an SKS sitting in the gun safe that I haven't used much and would make a good vehicle gun. The SKS would be a good big brother for my CCW - KelTec P11 9mm. I was thinking about a case like this: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Gun-Storage/Vehicle-Gun-Holders%7C/pc/104792580/c/104730480/sc/104195880/Classic-Accessories8482-Deluxe-Backseat-Gun-Rack-with-Detachable-Case/717083.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-gun-storage-auto-gun-storage%2F_%2FN-1100215&WTz_l=SEO%3Bcat104195880 Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	9. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 2:07 PM EST "I was thinking while watching the news and eating lunch that I actually have an SKS sitting in the gun safe that I haven't used much and would make a good vehicle gun. The SKS would be a good big brother for my CCW - KelTec P11 9mm. I was thinking about a case like this: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Gun-Storage/Vehicle-Gun-Holders%7C/pc/104792580/c/104730480/sc/104195880/Classic-Accessories8482-Deluxe-Backseat-Gun-Rack-with-Detachable-Case/717083.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-gun-storage-auto-gun-storage%2F_%2FN-1100215&WTz_l=SEO%3Bcat104195880" They have those over at wholesale sports, but I couldn't it them because my truck is an extended cab and I wouldn't want to put it on the two front seats because they'd be in view of anyone walking past Post reply Do you find this valuable?
11ACRBlackhorse	10. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 2:11 PM EST Which would you rather get stolen or damaged. Car wrecks are common and dont have to be your fault. But it could get damaged in the wreck or if forbid you get injured and have to ambulanced to a hospital. Your trunk gun could just grow legs and never be found again. So put the less valuable weapon in the trunk or truck. The 20ga is a good enough shotgun for the job. Its a standby weapon incase you have to fight your way home. It is common enough to find the ammo almost anywhere. Atleast where I live the ammo is cheaper and thus can carry more for same out of pocket. Now I would rebarrel and restock the 12ga and keep it at home. A carbine for both me and mamas SUV on top of the pistol CCWs. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Filadog	11. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 2:20 PM EST " Fila, no trouble except legally.... The stock is very battered, and I've water damaged my 840 stock with an inadvertently opened water bottle, I want a synthetic stock. " Damaged a stock with an open water bottle?! I'm looking at my old 870 that I hunted waterfowl with for many years mostly in bad weather got rained and snowed on god knows how many times , laid in the bottom of my leaky John Boat and even dropped over the side once. I bought it used from a guy that kept it in his barn. Doesn't look new thats for sure but it is still fine, and if I wanted to would be easy to refinish it so it would look better Its your money and if you just want to buy a plastic stock hey go for it but I doubt you really need to Could always just paint the wood stock Black if you like such things Why would it be illegal for you to cut the barrel back as long as you kept it within the legal limits? Lots of 2 3/4 inch 870 recievers will shoot 3 inch shells fine as long as you have a 3 inch barrel on it. I have never had any problem the times I have shot 3 inch shells in mine using a 3 inch barrel The only difference is the extractor in the 3 inch, the recievers are the same otherwise, I have heard some have had problems using the old 2 3/4 inch extractor but try it. Can have the extractor replaced with a 3 inch one Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Sharpie41	12. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 2:49 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 17 2012, 5:33 PM EST "Damaged a stock with an open water bottle?! I'm looking at my old 870 that I hunted waterfowl with for many years mostly in bad weather got rained and snowed on god knows how many times , laid in the bottom of my leaky John Boat and even dropped over the side once. I bought it used from a guy that kept it in his barn. Doesn't look new thats for sure but it is still fine, and if I wanted to would be easy to refinish it so it would look better Its your money and if you just want to buy a plastic stock hey go for it but I doubt you really need to Could always just paint the wood stock Black if you like such things Why would it be illegal for you to cut the barrel back as long as you kept it within the legal limits? Lots of 2 3/4 inch 870 recievers will shoot 3 inch shells fine as long as you have a 3 inch barrel on it. I have never had any problem the times I have shot 3 inch shells in mine using a 3 inch barrel The only difference is the extractor in the 3 inch, the recievers are the same otherwise, I have heard some have had problems using the old 2 3/4 inch extractor but try it. Can have the extractor replaced with a 3 inch one " Yeah the bottle opened and get the stock soaked, looks really bad. The 870 stock is beat up, gouged, scratched, big chunk of stock missing from the grip etc. Plus with the plastic butt plate by gf wouldn't shoot it, with a synthetic stock and recoil pad she might. The legal limit can be all the way down to 6.5 inches as long as it came from the factory, but I think cutting it down to 18 inches yourself is a no-no. I'd have to measure the receiver opening and go from there. ACR, are you talking price or quality? Price would be 12 ga so far I've spent $150 on it. Quality would be 20, not a good finish, and after a few boxes it starts to jam up. What I might do is use my 20 for now and when I'm done with the 12 use that Post reply Do you find this valuable?
randomknife666	13. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 3:09 PM EST "The legal limit can be all the way down to 6.5 inches as long as it came from the factory, but I think cutting it down to 18 inches yourself is a no-no. I'd have to measure the receiver opening and go from there. " Modifying the barrel so its under 18.5 is a no no, you can modify it to that point however. A lot of people around here do it. I probably won't with my current mossy, atleast until I get a replacement. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Filadog	14. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 3:22 PM EST " I'd have to measure the receiver opening and go from there. " The reciever opening in a 2 3/4 reciever and a 3 inch reciever is the same, no difference. The only difference between the two recievers is the extractor used and a 3 inch extractor can be installed in a 2 3/4 inch reciever if you find it doesn't shoot 3 inch shells reliably but most won't have any problem Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	15. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 4:16 PM EST "Modifying the barrel so its under 18.5 is a no no, you can modify it to that point however. A lot of people around here do it. I probably won't with my current mossy, atleast until I get a replacement." Right, 18.5, I would probably go to 18.75 just for lee-way. Fila, thanks, was worried a little that was gonna be stuck with 2.75 Post reply Do you find this valuable?
11ACRBlackhorse	16. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 4:54 PM EST "Yeah the bottle opened and get the stock soaked, looks really bad. The 870 stock is beat up, gouged, scratched, big chunk of stock missing from the grip etc. Plus with the plastic butt plate by gf wouldn't shoot it, with a synthetic stock and recoil pad she might. The legal limit can be all the way down to 6.5 inches as long as it came from the factory, but I think cutting it down to 18 inches yourself is a no-no. I'd have to measure the receiver opening and go from there. TR, are you talking price or quality? Price would be 12 ga so far I've spent $150 on it. Quality would be 20, not a good finish, and after a few boxes it starts to jam up. What I might do is use my 20 for now and when I'm done with the 12 use that" If you meant me by that TR part. Can't find who TR would be though. Which ever gun you dont want as much or would regret getting damaged or stolen more. That is what I meant by less valuable. I have a $100 rifle I would hate to lose, but can deal with losing my $250 carbine easier. I just like the other more. Figures I must be crazy. lol Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Jahadaz	17. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 5:03 PM EST I like the idea of a hi point carbine in a .45 as a trunk gun. But if I had to choose between your two, I'd go with the 12 ga. Bigger is always better in the world of shotguns. In fact, try and find a ten. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sharpie41	18. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 5:33 PM EST "If you meant me by that TR part. Can't find who TR would be though. Which ever gun you dont want as much or would regret getting damaged or stolen more. That is what I meant by less valuable. I have a $100 rifle I would hate to lose, but can deal with losing my $250 carbine easier. I just like the other more. Figures I must be crazy. lol" Oops, sorry, at first glance I thought your pic was TRs pic, I'll edit it. Eh, I've had the 20 for longer but it's given me problems, but if I went by the "won't miss it" principle, I wouldn't have a truck gun. J, if the barrel is over 18.5 inches I'm all for it (if not for price, Cx4 Storm with a long barrel Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	19. RE: Truck (or trunk if you prefer) gun(s) Jan 17 2012, 5:33 PM EST If you've got your heart set on a shotgun either one would do. Flip a coin. I've always hauled a rifle in my truck. Pack it to the truck every morning, pack it back in every afternoon. My .357 lever pulled truck duty for a while but I didn't like beatin' around that walnut stock so I started hauling a Chinese SKS. Its blueing is worn, its stock is nicked and scratched and if it got stolen I could attend the next gun show in town and have another one of the same quaility for $100. An SKS is the best firepower for the money you can buy IMO. Perfect "beat-around" gun. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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