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ZombieKicker
Martial Arts
Jan 18 2012, 7:22 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 18 2012, 7:22 PM EST
What is your opinion regarding Martial Arts in a zombie apocalypse?

If you wear thick clothing, it can be very useful.....imagine a muay thai elbow to a decomposing head....
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
1. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 18 2012, 7:42 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 18 2012, 7:42 PM EST
"What is your opinion regarding Martial Arts in a zombie apocalypse?

If you wear thick clothing, it can be very useful.....imagine a muay thai elbow to a decomposing head...."
I don't really see it being overly useful. Any close-in contact with the undead would just be causing more danger to yourself. I doubt any kind of elbow strike would have enough force to destroy the brain; all it would really do is bring your arm uncomfortably close to its mouth.

Also, the time and amount of practice it takes to learn martial arts would make it impractical. You'd be better off just going with a cardiovascular routine.

Now, there is a caveat. If you learn any sort of moves to help you escape from a grapple, those could be useful. Although, in terms of any sort of strike, you'd be far better off just running away (or backing up a few steps and drawing a weapon.)
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TreeLegs
TreeLegs
2. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 21 2012, 9:18 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 21 2012, 9:18 PM EST
Find a partner and and practice escaping him trying to grab you in different ways. It's a brain dead zombie not a UFC fighter so it doesn't have to be complicated. Don't worry about too many strikes as the man says above it is only going to put you in more danger. If you strike someone in the mouth you run the risk of slicing yourself open and getting infected. My brother got in a fight once and had to pick teeth out of his knuckles. You could also bust the skin on impact and risk infection. I would say learn some BJJ. Yould be surprised what a months worth of teaching will allow you to do though I'd recommend more. Akido, Judo, regular Ju-Jitsu, Chi-na, Krav Maga are also good choices. With weapons, I'd say Escrima, Bo or Jo staff, Kendo, Spear or anything else that would help you use blunt weapons or ones of opertunity would be a good idea. Just remember to practice, practice, practice. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
shadowmancer
shadowmancer
3. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 5:27 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2012, 5:30 AM EST
"I don't really see it being overly useful. Any close-in contact with the undead would just be causing more danger to yourself. I doubt any kind of elbow strike would have enough force to destroy the brain; all it would really do is bring your arm uncomfortably close to its mouth.

Also, the time and amount of practice it takes to learn martial arts would make it impractical. You'd be better off just going with a cardiovascular routine.

Now, there is a caveat. If you learn any sort of moves to help you escape from a grapple, those could be useful. Although, in terms of any sort of strike, you'd be far better off just running away (or backing up a few steps and drawing a weapon.)
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well i have to disagree slightly with it not being useful - it sharpens your reflexes and reduces your reaction time also its great workout so you'll be in fine form to flee or fight from the zombie hoards. like you said some moves will be useful - but the overall decrease in reaction time will be a life saver - it also promotes mental self control - so you won't panic in theory at least ( never met a zombie personally) and you could protect your gear from other surviviors =/ too i guess
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
4. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 10:50 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2012, 10:50 AM EST
"well i have to disagree slightly with it not being useful - it sharpens your reflexes and reduces your reaction time also its great workout so you'll be in fine form to flee or fight from the zombie hoards. like you said some moves will be useful - but the overall decrease in reaction time will be a life saver - it also promotes mental self control - so you won't panic in theory at least ( never met a zombie personally) and you could protect your gear from other surviviors =/ too i guess"
Meh, that makes sense. The reflexes and reaction times would be useful. But, the moves themselves wouldn't really help to much. I.E. kicking a zombie in the face won't really do a whole lot other than get your leg close to its mouth.

Also, I believe that extensive martial arts training would lead to overconfidence. I.E. "I know karate; I can take this zombie with my bare hands."

IMO, there are more cost and time-effective ways to stay fit and improve your reaction times.
That said, I do see some merit. I'd think some wrestling techniques (i.e. mainly escaping grapples) would come in handy.
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x-wolfhunter
x-wolfhunter
5. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 11:57 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2012, 11:57 AM EST
"Meh, that makes sense. The reflexes and reaction times would be useful. But, the moves themselves wouldn't really help to much. I.E. kicking a zombie in the face won't really do a whole lot other than get your leg close to its mouth.

Also, I believe that extensive martial arts training would lead to overconfidence. I.E. "I know karate; I can take this zombie with my bare hands."

IMO, there are more cost and time-effective ways to stay fit and improve your reaction times.
That said, I do see some merit. I'd think some wrestling techniques (i.e. mainly escaping grapples) would come in handy."
Seconded.
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shadowmancer
shadowmancer
6. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 12:28 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2012, 12:32 PM EST
"Meh, that makes sense. The reflexes and reaction times would be useful. But, the moves themselves wouldn't really help to much. I.E. kicking a zombie in the face won't really do a whole lot other than get your leg close to its mouth.

Also, I believe that extensive martial arts training would lead to overconfidence. I.E. "I know karate; I can take this zombie with my bare hands."

IMO, there are more cost and time-effective ways to stay fit and improve your reaction times.
That said, I do see some merit. I'd think some wrestling techniques (i.e. mainly escaping grapples) would come in handy."
true true it can breed overconfidence, ego and isn't the cheapest option and wrestling moves may be eaiser to learn as well - but i think it really depends on the personality of the person if it would cause problems for them or not - but the same could be said of guns =/ i guess the whole issue could be not to rely heavily on one aspect of anything have multipul options open to you - i should mention to be totally honest i have a third degree blackbelt =/ but its only because i was born with a weak heart - and martial arts have done quite a bit for me personally - heart is now strong like bull lol. lol i guess you could say my doctor gave me a perscription to be a ninja lol so i am a tadd biased.
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chitoryu12
chitoryu12
7. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 3:55 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2012, 3:55 PM EST
I would trust my life to a club made from a chair leg before I trusted it to martial arts. Weapons are not only stronger, but they allow you to keep your distance from an enemy that could theoretically kill you with one minor injury. Any martial arts you learn to combat such an enemy should be based around getting them away from you so you can strike with a weapon or flee. Anything else is taking a massive, avoidable risk. Do you find this valuable?    
SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
8. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 7:04 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 22 2012, 7:04 PM EST
"I would trust my life to a club made from a chair leg before I trusted it to martial arts. Weapons are not only stronger, but they allow you to keep your distance from an enemy that could theoretically kill you with one minor injury. Any martial arts you learn to combat such an enemy should be based around getting them away from you so you can strike with a weapon or flee. Anything else is taking a massive, avoidable risk."
Exactly.

Also, instead of long periods of time spent studying techniques and katas, IMO just wrestling/fighting with people you know would be a more realistic experience. It's less reliant on complex moves and more reliant on leverage and getting s*it done.Also, it provides an unpredictable opponent, as opposed to one who picks from a set of moves.
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=jesse=
=jesse=
9. RE: Martial Arts
Yesterday, 5:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Yesterday, 5:17 PM EDT
Hope I'm not necroposting here...

I wouldn't say that learning martial arts breeds over confidence. To me that's like saying learning how to shoot, or do anything else for that matter would do the same thing.

Personally I don't think you can know enough h2h. Boxing, muay thai, bjj, judo, wrestling, tkd, are all great martial arts. Yeah it takes time to learn, but what doesn't?

You won't find me trying to box a zed, but even something as simple as a scissor sweep or knowing how to buck an opponent off a full mount could save your tail (case in point Dale when he got tackled). Against humans, you never know when you'll be empty handed or out of ammo. Why not take the time to learn a few escapes and proper submissions?
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