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ZombieKicker |
Martial Arts
Jan 18 2012, 7:22 PM EST
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What is your opinion regarding Martial Arts in a zombie apocalypse?If you wear thick clothing, it can be very useful.....imagine a muay thai elbow to a decomposing head.... I've been training with material from a martial arts blog (taekwondousa.blogspot.com) and some mma lessons (mostly muay thai and bjj) and am ready to kick some ass on z-day! maybe i'm too overconfident, but at least i'll have training lol i want to learn boxing next and then Filipino knife fighting 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?
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SasquatchJim |
1. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 18 2012, 7:42 PM EST
"What is your opinion regarding Martial Arts in a zombie apocalypse?I don't really see it being overly useful. Any close-in contact with the undead would just be causing more danger to yourself. I doubt any kind of elbow strike would have enough force to destroy the brain; all it would really do is bring your arm uncomfortably close to its mouth. Also, the time and amount of practice it takes to learn martial arts would make it impractical. You'd be better off just going with a cardiovascular routine. Now, there is a caveat. If you learn any sort of moves to help you escape from a grapple, those could be useful. Although, in terms of any sort of strike, you'd be far better off just running away (or backing up a few steps and drawing a weapon.) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
TreeLegs |
2. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 21 2012, 9:18 PM EST
Find a partner and and practice escaping him trying to grab you in different ways. It's a brain dead zombie not a UFC fighter so it doesn't have to be complicated. Don't worry about too many strikes as the man says above it is only going to put you in more danger. If you strike someone in the mouth you run the risk of slicing yourself open and getting infected. My brother got in a fight once and had to pick teeth out of his knuckles. You could also bust the skin on impact and risk infection. I would say learn some BJJ. Yould be surprised what a months worth of teaching will allow you to do though I'd recommend more. Akido, Judo, regular Ju-Jitsu, Chi-na, Krav Maga are also good choices. With weapons, I'd say Escrima, Bo or Jo staff, Kendo, Spear or anything else that would help you use blunt weapons or ones of opertunity would be a good idea. Just remember to practice, practice, practice.
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shadowmancer |
3. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 5:27 AM EST
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"I don't really see it being overly useful. Any close-in contact with the undead would just be causing more danger to yourself. I doubt any kind of elbow strike would have enough force to destroy the brain; all it would really do is bring your arm uncomfortably close to its mouth.well i have to disagree slightly with it not being useful - it sharpens your reflexes and reduces your reaction time also its great workout so you'll be in fine form to flee or fight from the zombie hoards. like you said some moves will be useful - but the overall decrease in reaction time will be a life saver - it also promotes mental self control - so you won't panic in theory at least ( never met a zombie personally) and you could protect your gear from other surviviors =/ too i guess 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SasquatchJim |
4. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 10:50 AM EST
"well i have to disagree slightly with it not being useful - it sharpens your reflexes and reduces your reaction time also its great workout so you'll be in fine form to flee or fight from the zombie hoards. like you said some moves will be useful - but the overall decrease in reaction time will be a life saver - it also promotes mental self control - so you won't panic in theory at least ( never met a zombie personally) and you could protect your gear from other surviviors =/ too i guess"Meh, that makes sense. The reflexes and reaction times would be useful. But, the moves themselves wouldn't really help to much. I.E. kicking a zombie in the face won't really do a whole lot other than get your leg close to its mouth. Also, I believe that extensive martial arts training would lead to overconfidence. I.E. "I know karate; I can take this zombie with my bare hands." IMO, there are more cost and time-effective ways to stay fit and improve your reaction times. That said, I do see some merit. I'd think some wrestling techniques (i.e. mainly escaping grapples) would come in handy. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
x-wolfhunter |
5. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 11:57 AM EST
"Meh, that makes sense. The reflexes and reaction times would be useful. But, the moves themselves wouldn't really help to much. I.E. kicking a zombie in the face won't really do a whole lot other than get your leg close to its mouth.Seconded. Do you find this valuable? |
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shadowmancer |
6. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 12:28 PM EST
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"Meh, that makes sense. The reflexes and reaction times would be useful. But, the moves themselves wouldn't really help to much. I.E. kicking a zombie in the face won't really do a whole lot other than get your leg close to its mouth.true true it can breed overconfidence, ego and isn't the cheapest option and wrestling moves may be eaiser to learn as well - but i think it really depends on the personality of the person if it would cause problems for them or not - but the same could be said of guns =/ i guess the whole issue could be not to rely heavily on one aspect of anything have multipul options open to you - i should mention to be totally honest i have a third degree blackbelt =/ but its only because i was born with a weak heart - and martial arts have done quite a bit for me personally - heart is now strong like bull lol. lol i guess you could say my doctor gave me a perscription to be a ninja lol so i am a tadd biased. Do you find this valuable? |
chitoryu12 |
7. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 3:55 PM EST
I would trust my life to a club made from a chair leg before I trusted it to martial arts. Weapons are not only stronger, but they allow you to keep your distance from an enemy that could theoretically kill you with one minor injury. Any martial arts you learn to combat such an enemy should be based around getting them away from you so you can strike with a weapon or flee. Anything else is taking a massive, avoidable risk.
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SasquatchJim |
8. RE: Martial Arts
Jan 22 2012, 7:04 PM EST
"I would trust my life to a club made from a chair leg before I trusted it to martial arts. Weapons are not only stronger, but they allow you to keep your distance from an enemy that could theoretically kill you with one minor injury. Any martial arts you learn to combat such an enemy should be based around getting them away from you so you can strike with a weapon or flee. Anything else is taking a massive, avoidable risk."Exactly. Also, instead of long periods of time spent studying techniques and katas, IMO just wrestling/fighting with people you know would be a more realistic experience. It's less reliant on complex moves and more reliant on leverage and getting s*it done.Also, it provides an unpredictable opponent, as opposed to one who picks from a set of moves. Do you find this valuable? |
=jesse= |
9. RE: Martial Arts
May 29 2012, 5:17 PM EDT
Hope I'm not necroposting here...I wouldn't say that learning martial arts breeds over confidence. To me that's like saying learning how to shoot, or do anything else for that matter would do the same thing. Personally I don't think you can know enough h2h. Boxing, muay thai, bjj, judo, wrestling, tkd, are all great martial arts. Yeah it takes time to learn, but what doesn't? You won't find me trying to box a zed, but even something as simple as a scissor sweep or knowing how to buck an opponent off a full mount could save your tail (case in point Dale when he got tackled). Against humans, you never know when you'll be empty handed or out of ammo. Why not take the time to learn a few escapes and proper submissions? Do you find this valuable? |
Spartan1190 |
10. RE: Martial Arts
May 30 2012, 3:36 PM EDT
Ive always thought martial arts in any survival situation would be beneficial.. Even if its not against a zombie, it could be useful against a fellow survivor.. Ive been doing a lot of research and I am about to sign up for a Krava Maga session. From what I've read it's perfect for urban warfare/ close contact fighting.
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=jesse= |
11. RE: Martial Arts
May 30 2012, 5:41 PM EDT
"I am about to sign up for a Krava Maga session. From what I've read it's perfect for urban warfare/ close contact fighting."lol, one of the few martial arts with an emphasis on what to do when confronted with a grenade vest. Kidding...kind of. There's something valuable to be taken from every martial art. On a separate note, this dude is nuts. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1282647/US-cage-fighter-Jarrod-Wyatt-rips-training-partner-Taylor-Powells-heart.html#ixzz1wODs69kc Do you find this valuable? |
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rubb3rl3andman |
12. RE: Martial Arts
May 30 2012, 10:20 PM EDT
I also think that if said martial artist had the proper clothing (i.e armor) striking would be a possibility. Like, If I had a pair of metal gauntlet's, I'd beat the sh!t out of a zombie if I had no other option.
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wantmarmite |
13. RE: Martial Arts
May 30 2012, 11:14 PM EDT
I have a martial arts background. I don't think I'm cocky, but I don't think I'm helpless either. My Dad was in the SAS when I was kid and he taught me self-defence as a kid. Came in handy when I was getting myself into dumb situations as a teenage girl. Off and on, I practice Muay Thai. I'd like to try MMA, but I only see men in those classes and I'm not interested in taking that lead. I'm sure a gun or weapon is optimal, but these can be taken away from you. You can't wholly rely on these things. I like having additional defensive options available to me even if they aren't my first choice. Do you find this valuable? |
LJ126 |
14. RE: Martial Arts
May 31 2012, 12:11 AM EDT
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I'll bite.FIrst and foremost, I want to make it clear that I'm no expert; if anything, I'm still very much the beginner. My martial arts training began early in 2009. I have a few years of separate experience in Judo (Shodan - lowest level of black belt), Shotokan (hachikyu - orange belt), and as a supplement to my Judo instruction, I've learned some of the atemi-waza (striking techniques) of traditional jiujutsu origin. I've participated in numerous specialized self-defense seminars, one of which teaching the battery of techniques outlined in W.E. Fairbairn's "Get Tough." I do my best to avoid conflict, so my actual level of applied self-defense is very low. In fact, since I've received formal training, I've never had occasion to use it -- and I'm totally okay with that. Martial arts training, as well as more specialized CQC/H2H combatives are an invaluable self-defense (SD) skill. At the minimum, they impart the obvious PT and hand-eye coordination benefits, which are vital to survivability in a bad situation and apply to all other aspects of life. These skills and traits also serve as an option if you're assaulted and a lethal force response is unlawful or inappropriate (George Zimmerman would be in a lot less hot water if he knew how to fight with his hands.) I could go on and on about all of the other benefits of martial arts training, but I believe that anyone who takes their self defense seriously has considered, or better yet, acquired formal unarmed combatives training. I don't believe in zombies, but I can say this; I'd rather know how to fight than not if I were attacked by a zombie. Do you find this valuable? |
Redrighthand |
15. RE: Martial Arts
May 31 2012, 6:54 AM EDT
Have to agree with LJ on this. Any regular excercise is great, but training in a martial art gives you muscle memory and the ability to move (either strike, kick, grapple or break a grapple) with focused power. Not to mention the great weapons training. Yes, a chair leg is a good idea. A chair leg wielded by a trained jo exponent is a better one. Why not be that jo user?
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=jesse= |
16. RE: Martial Arts
May 31 2012, 10:39 AM EDT
In order to get the muscle memory though it has to be repetitive everyday. As my muay thai coach used to say, your reaction should be as natural as pulling your hand back when it touches something hot. Getting to that point where you don't have to think about it but just react takes a long time to develop. Especially when you mix in striking and grappling. Admittedly, I've lost quite a bit of that reactive ability since I haven't seriously trained in well over a year.@want- Women aren't overly common in MMA gyms but they are around. And most of the men are very respectful. Some of the bigger more popular gyms have a higher population of women, but the bigger name gyms are also more expensive. I was a mid-size gym and I think we had a total of 2 girls come through. One bailed after the first week, but the other one was 100% willing to throw down. She even gave me a nice shiner and busted my lip, lol. Do you find this valuable? |
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x-wolfhunter |
17. RE: Martial Arts
May 31 2012, 12:05 PM EDT
"What is your opinion regarding Martial Arts in a zombie apocalypse?If you want to take martial arts specifically for a zombie apocalypse, focus on one that focuses on evading, dodging, and getting out of holds - bare-handed combat against a zombie is a no-no, no matter what your skill level. Do you find this valuable? |
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x-wolfhunter |
18. RE: Martial Arts
May 31 2012, 12:08 PM EDT
"true true it can breed overconfidence, ego and isn't the cheapest option and wrestling moves may be eaiser to learn as well - but i think it really depends on the personality of the person if it would cause problems for them or not - but the same could be said of guns =/ i guess the whole issue could be not to rely heavily on one aspect of anything have multipul options open to you - i should mention to be totally honest i have a third degree blackbelt =/ but its only because i was born with a weak heart - and martial arts have done quite a bit for me personally - heart is now strong like bull lol. lol i guess you could say my doctor gave me a perscription to be a ninja lol so i am a tadd biased."If you're over-confident before Z-Day, you'll most likely get into a fight - and get your @ss handed to you on a silver platter. That's the best way of deflating a head and popping an ego. Do you find this valuable? |
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=jesse= |
19. RE: Martial Arts
May 31 2012, 12:30 PM EDT
"If you're over-confident before Z-Day, you'll most likely get into a fight - and get your @ss handed to you on a silver platter. That's the best way of deflating a head and popping an ego."@X-wolf- This is true. When I first got into mma I went in with an ego. I got my ass kicked. No other way of putting it. I got stomped. This went on for about 6 months. It was a good lesson though. It did put my ego into check and it forced me to focus on learning and improving rather than trying to talk tough and look cool. @rubber- I'd be hesitant to add a lot of heavy gear. Strap on a pair of 16oz boxing gloves and shadow box for 20 minutes. You'll be surprised how fatigued your biceps can get. Keeping your hands up even gets to be tough. Not to say getting decked with a pair of knuckle dusters won't get the job done, but I wouldn't want to add something that's going to sap my stamina and mobility. Do you find this valuable? |
