"How much does this whole thing weigh with a full load of ammunition?

Personally, I like the compact size and ridiculous capacity for a shotgun managing to be blended in the same package. But it must be a ***** to reload."

"the KSG is actually surprisingly unlike the Neostead about the only thing they have in common is that they have two magazine tubes. The Neostead is loaded from the top (as in the magazine tubes pop up like a break action shotgun) and has a reverse pump action. the KSG on the other hand is much more like a conventional shotgun, I like to imagine it like a bullpup ithaca 37 with two magazine tubes.
In addition the Neostead was vary mechanically complex, and I have heard reports of it being unreliable because of this. I have also been lurking around the KTOG forums and have been hearing of surprisingly few issues, although it's most likely too early to tell.

EDIT: Also I have heard that allot of the things people wanted in the KSG (semi-auto, automatic magazine shift, ect.) were omitted to keep the KSG legal for california. "

"I don't mind some of the shortcomings and draw backs so long as the thing works right.
I like Kel-Tec......I really do. That said I'd wait a year and see how well these things function and if it has any reliability issues or durability issues. I like a few Kel-Tec products but some of them honestly need work before they are decent guns.
Having a bullpup high capacity pump shotgun like that could be one heck of a home defense package though. "

"I wish I could remember the name of it, but there's a design that uses a rotating cluster of tubes as the foregrip of a semi-automatic shotgun. Fire off the tube, quickly snap it to the next one with a turn of your wrist. The whole cluster detaches like a single magazine, so reloading is much faster than trying to load up 14 individual shells."

"I wish I could remember the name of it, but there's a design that uses a rotating cluster of tubes as the foregrip of a semi-automatic shotgun. Fire off the tube, quickly snap it to the next one with a turn of your wrist. The whole cluster detaches like a single magazine, so reloading is much faster than trying to load up 14 individual shells."