"LOL - I like that test. Might have to try it some time.
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"True, but strive to keep deadly force confrontations limited to firearms, as the risk factor increases exponentially in HTH combat. I am prepared for it, and it's what I try to avoid through diligent use of my sidearm. My comment was aimed at those who recommend it as primary response, rather than the last resort and least desirable means, by postulating scenarios that really only could happen with zombies. In real life the scenarios dictated either end with a massive shootout, or if they are unarmed they run like h­ell, or surrender (depending on the circumstances). In a few cases doped up unarmed assailants might need some tazer medication.

In a true apocalyptic situation, the same rules will apply. Those with guns will be using them, those unarmed when encountering those armed will be subdued at gunpoint, because they still have functioning brains.

The lesson? Focus on getting armed and trained. And yes, include HTH training for worst case scenario... and remember that's why you should have a BUG anyway."

"I guess you didn't know that Zombie is a tactical euphemism; it's a polite way to discuss the real 2 legged threat in a SHTF situation. And there you have it, now YOU really do know everything.

It's fun and quite okay by me to take it the further step, and talk about zombies, sure... but as I said at the point it stops being relevant to you being prepared and trained for the actual and real threat that does exist, it's gone too far.

Nobody here has bought firearms to defend themselves from the Walking Dead (well, I certainly hope not)."

"I know that young people without guns want to survive and they hate feeling like second rate survivalist because they often do not have access to firearms, ammo, real esatate, or buy the groceries to stockpile. Thus, we get comments about the inferiority of guns.

That is excusable ignorance and the desire not to feel helpless.

Rather than denegrate guns, however, think about what melee would really look like. Just like ammo is always tighter (and SLOWER to reload) than videogames, melee is also not an issue of either swinging until dead (nor 10 minute swordfights).

Much like olympic fencing rounds, most melee fights are over in a few seconds.

With zed coming at you full speed, you do not have much time to react.

Practice your side step. WIth most melee, you will want to sidestep, cripple, and then either run or kill. A blow to the head is only likely to get past the skull when the skull is on the ground. Otherwise, you are just knocking the head over to one side.

Crippling with a hamstring cut (edged) or a side of the knee smash (bludgeoning), will slow even a painless zombie enough to get away. If there is only one, it should fall forward (thus, the side step) letting you step on its back and take a "wood splitting" blow to the top-center-back of the skull (where the soft spot would be on a baby's skull).

Wash, rinse, repeat. This will also work on living targets whose desire is to tackle you.

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"My thoughts precisely.
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"If you break down what a Z-poc is all about, it comes out to being a highly destructive biological disaster. One bad enough to set the world back a couple hundred years. Since we are so relient technology(including medical, weapons, transportation and utilities) not having them presents issues that we haven't thought about in great detail for at least a century. Why not use the worst case scenario to base your planing on?

Long story short, if you can prepare for the Z-poc and the rebuilding process after, you'll be ready for almost anything. "

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Survivors will have a full arsenal in their knowledge and be prepared to use even a pointy stick.
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